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>> No.8426830
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>>8426827

>society

>> No.8426832

>>8426830
How is society a spook

>> No.8426840

It never really made society a better place. It's just entertainment. Hard work is what improves society.

>> No.8426908

>>8426840
Nonsense. Shared values change society and satire can help change values.

>> No.8426916

Of course. Just look at the daily show.

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>>8426832

>Asking this question

>> No.8426920

>>8426840
top satire m8

>> No.8426964

Well, it certainly stopped Hitler.

>> No.8426969

>>8426827
>improving society

>> No.8427084

Only if there is no freedom of expression. If you can state your ideas regarding improving society without fear of punishment, do that instead of writing satire.

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yes

but ironic ironic ironic shitposting doesn't

>> No.8427106

The entire premise of post-ironic/New Sincerity text is that satire is indistinguishable from reality and everything just sort of gels. We've innoculated ourselves against snark.

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>>8426827
Not if it's racist, sexist, or homophobic because those things are NOT funny and anyone who can't acknowledge this obvious fact needs to be put up against a wall and executed.

Or at the very least have their career and reputation ruined.

>> No.8427233

>>8426964
>discounting satire with a quip

>> No.8427316

>>8427106
What is new sincerity?

>> No.8427416

>>8427104
then why is [s4s] the nicest board?

>> No.8427423

>>8427316
Read Kierkegaard on irony

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>>8426827

no, no more than cyberpunk literature prevented the current clusterfuck of dystopian issues they illustrated

society used to be relationships between man and the state between periods of war, now it is the relationship between the state and the market

>> No.8427485

>>8426827
I think Karl Kraus and his generation of brilliant satirists pretty conclusively proved that satire, no matter how well done, doesn't do shit in terms of changing society.