/lit/ - Literature

I don`t have a problem with it, especially not if the book is pre WWII.

>>828232
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I enjoy it

>>828254
mmmmm! heartily! with tabacco to puff

It's mostly useful as a means to reveal the author's or the society's attitudes when it's being written. If, however, it was written puerly for racist purposes it's almost definatley a pile of crud, not just material-wise but also prosaically. Prime example is Mein Kampf, which even Mussolini didn't like.

>>828254
This.

So many racist short stories.

Nigger this and nigger that.

It's awesome.

Pretty much the same I feel about anything in books. I'm not a serial killer, but that doesn't prevent me from identifying with Bateman in American Psycho, I'm not a closet gay with powerful connections, but that doesn't prevent me from identifying with Cohn in Angels in America (technically a play, but it's a story, so go suck on a dick).

If it is well written (i.e. convincingly) it is just a part of the character. If it is written for propagandist purposes, it will probably be crap. I have never seen a combination, but would be interested.

For the record, the word "nigger" did not always imply racism. The word itself was often seen as neutral until the civil rights movement decided it was inherently racist.

More generally though, I expect books to give me a certain insight into the culture that produced them, and I see racism in literature as historically educational.

It doesn't bother me at all unless I get the feeling that the author is actually racist. However, it's uncomfortable to read when the word "nigger" is used when I'm on the subway sitting beside black people.

>>828341

Isnt that just a general problem? When I went through Lolita I had the same strange feeling at times on the bus'. Same with what im reading now called " I kill " (Translated), with alot of blood splatter on the cover'.

>>828330 For the record, the word "nigger" did not always imply racism. The word itself was often seen as neutral until the civil rights movement decided it was inherently racist.

Are you fucking serious? the word was always a slur in the US, but not until the 60's or so in the UK.

Wierdly enough, "black" was also a slur - the polite terms in the US used to be "negro" or "colored".

I don't have a problem with racism, but with bad book, and this is one of them. I really like Agatha Christie, but this book is just bad.

>>828364

No, the word was not always a slur in the United States, though it certainly became one well before the 60's.

women and nigger cannot into book

Not sure if trolling.

can anyone recommend a really good racist book?

>>829809

The Bible aka Manufacterer's handbook

Comes in many translations and can be found in fiction, non fiction, fantasy, and Literature and many variations ....and it's ALL about the exclusive club rules elite members go by...to justify genocide...doesn't get any more racist than that!

>>831578

atheists gonna atheist

>>831598
You can be a theist and dislike the bible.

Responding to OPs question I have to say that it doesn't bother me if it makes sense in a cultural context and isn't purely there for propaganda purposes.
Pic related, it's easy to forget my favorite xenophobic writer because it was so characteristically over the top at times, one could not help not to view it as an unintentional joke.

You can be a theist and dislike the bible.

Responding to OPs question I have to say that it doesn't bother me if it makes sense in a cultural context and isn't purely there for propaganda purposes.
Pic related, it's easy to forget my favorite xenophobic writer because it was so characteristically over the top at times, one could not help not to view it as an unintentional joke.

>>831629
>forget
I meant to say forgive.

Good. In fact very good. Schopenhauer hated niggers and proved their inferiority as group. Only because some niggers are as smart as whites and some whites are as stupid as normal niggers doesn't that mean that both are equal.

As an anti-racist, I'm generally opposed to it.

>>831731
>Implying race isn't an outdated concept.
>Implying you're any better than the nigger out on the streets until you actually prove your usefulness.
>Being an intellectual isn't proving your usefulness.

>>831779
I never used the word "race", I would have had to say niggers would be human for that but niggers are apes.

>>831731

Schopenhauer said that? I'm not surprised, he was a very rational man. He also considered women to be inferior wenches.

I hate black people by the way. I wish they would all just go back to Africa or be exterminated.

>>831823
Yes he did, I could quote him but that would be in German and probably of no use for you.

>>831779

no niggers are inferior to white people

>>831840

no please go ahead, i am skilled in german

>>831847
Moment...here we have it, I even underlinded it.
"Die geselligsten aller Menschen sollen die Neger sein, wie sie eben auch intellektuell entschieden zurückstehen: nach Berichten aus Nord-Amerika, in Französischen Zeitungen, sperren die Schwarzen, freie und Sklaven durheinander, in großer Anzahl sich in den engsten Raum zusammen, weil sie ihr schwarzes Stumpfnasengesicht nicht oft genug wiederholt erblicken können"
Aphorismen zur Lebensweisheit, Marixverlag, Seite 32, Arthur Schopenhauer.
For Schopenhauer sociable human are inferior.

>>831874

Interesting, Schopenhauer also said this
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste or race is fairer in colour than the rest and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Incas, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want and misery, which in their many forms were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature and out of it all came their high civilization.1

>>831881
A wise man he was.

>>831881
Romantic fantasy hogwash. The reason our white ancestors became so powerful is because of a mixture of luck and calculated cruelty. For centuries the "great" white north was little more than a collection of dark age imitation of greater cultures and barbarism.

>>831874

Too bad Schopenhauer also said this: "Man soll, wo möglich, gegen niemanden Animosität hegen, jedoch die procedes eines jeden sich wohl merken und im Gedächtnis behalten [...] >Weder lieben, noch hassen< enthält die Hälfte aller Weltklugheit: >nichts sagen und nichts glauben< die andere Hälfte." Paränesen und Maximen in: Aphorismen zur Lebensweisheit, Insel Verlag, S. 196
Also: "Zorn, oder Hass in Worten, oder Mienen blicken zu lassen ist unnütz, ist gefährlich, ist unklug, ist lächerlich, ist gemein".

Even his views on ethics include all humans whether you can use it for your racist comments or not.

>>832035
So what? I don't hate Niggers, I just say they are inferior, that's a fact not a feeling like hate, spreading the truth and facts is different from sprading feelings.

it makes the book pretty fucking worthless.

>>831949

sure is liberal jerkcircle in here

>>832147
>liberal
>not racist
sure is /new/ in here