/lit/ - Literature

if you have to ask it means you're a pseud

so no

>10th grade
>haven't done seven thorough annotated readings of Ulysses and recorded all of your annotations on a video cassette

are you even trying

>>8267572
yeah but why would you want to

>>8267594
I heard they were good

>>8267598
well...is that your only criteria? bc there's lots of good books.

don't do it if you're just trying to join the /lit/ club is what I'm saying. you're a pseud faggot if you do, you're a pseud faggot if you don't.

I read GR fine when I was 16. I probably missed out on a lot, but it was still a fulfilling experience.

>>8267572
It is amazing how retards pickup random fiction books and call them a Trilogy you must read without actually knowing why.

you'll miss out on some things but theres no reason to not try. [not memeing] i think you should start with IJ

>>8267572

>the Meme trilogy

Can someone please, for the love of Kant, provide an actual, coherent definition to whatever the fuck that means?

>fairly good

>>8267931
It's when you read Infinite Jest three times. It's such a dense and complex narrative that it's a different experience each time you read it. Hence the "meme" trilogy

>>8267572
You can read whatever the hell you want. Just as long as you reread them as you age and grow wiser... Also grades and the idea of being "smart" don't mean shit just a heads up. As a long as you like literature or whatever you're doing you can do it. If you're doing something cause you think it'll make you smart or look smart or whatever you'll fail.

>>8267572
Wait until freshman year of college and read V., not GR

>>8267572
>10th grader
MODS

>>8267588
If he is in the 10th grade he won't even know what a video cassette is pseud

>>8267931
it's a meme bro

>>8267988
>mfw this is actually true

>>8267996
Why would that disgust anybody? Times change.

>>8267572

OP, just read them. Things will go over your head, yes, but it will make re-reading them 5 years from now very rewarding.

Just be humble in your interpretations of the books. (Don't be that stuck up shit who namedrops these books). A lot of shit you won't get this time around. Seems like you're already cognizant of that, so that's good.

>>8268074


...this place is full of a bunch of 20 year olds who for some reason hate younger people for not living in the same time period as them...as if that would improve their pathetic 4chan lives.

>>8268098

yeah basically except I hate older people and people my age too

>>8268108
Why do you even live?

>>8267572
If you're in 10th grade you're not old enough to be on this board.

>>8268098
>it's a millennial speaks in 3rd person and criticizes millennials as if he's not a millennial: episode

>>8268120
to watch the impeding climate wars and eventual replacement of mankind by machine intelligence from the comfort of my neet cave.

>>8268132
It's just /lit/

>>8268132
if it's blue its not 18+

the more you know

>>8268132
frankly anyone over 10th grade is too old to be on this board, and I'm including myself

>>8268141
>It's a pseud thinks generational analysis is even remotely useful or informative episode

>>8268189
frankly everyone living should be dead, and I'm including myself

>>8267988
>current_year
>not knowing about technology older than from your childhood
I think you're the one who's making offense here, you narcissistic early Gen Y-er.

>>8268141
>It's a "Back in my day things were different and people were better people!" episode

First off, if you're under like 35, you're considered a millennial. Second off, every generation has it's share of retards and good people. You can't just lump an entire generation into one category and call it shit. Because the same retards in this generation were there in your generation (Which is probably the millennial generation because you're under 35)

>>8268146
>implying you won't be part of the beta uprising

>>8268098
it will happen to you

>>8268217
>>8268263
Nice reading comprehension. Neither of you seem to understand my post.

>>8268313
Yeah but your post was criticizing someone who said generational lines don't matter, so I took that as you criticizing that point, so I criticized it.

Can't speak to Ulysses, but IJ and GR, I'd suggest waiting. I'm guessing they may bore you and their more impactful points will sail over your very inexperienced head. While you may be capable of reading them and completing them, the real power in GR and IJ is on an empathetic level. If you read them before you've lived and experienced both the struggle of life and the corruption of most institutions, you'll possibly find it difficult to connect, find them uninteresting and perhaps neglect to read them in a more experienced phase of life at which you could have your life transformed as a result of reading them.

>>8268330

>>8267572
Read the meme trilogy now and be a pseudo.

Pic related is only thing you should read, read it all and don't skip a book or you'll be a pseudo.

Don't want to read the Greeks? Get the fuck out you pseudo.

>>8268356
pic didn't upload

>>8268344
Obviously read GR and IJ too young.

>>8268188
this is obviously incorrect asshole
>>8267572
MODS MODS MODS

>>8267627
you haven't read them apparently

>>8267572

No. I would read other major modernists for a few more years before trying any of these novels. Conrad, Hemmingway, and Woolf are very good.

>>8268605

You will probably get a lot out of earlier Joyce, as well, especially his short story collection, Dubliners. It's more difficult that Conrad at his clearest and all of Hemmingway, but probably easier than most Woolf.

You should know all of those authors, their styles, their interests, their problems and obsessions, before tackling Ulysses. You should also definitely read a lot of modernist poetry, especially Eliot, as well as Joyce's novel, A Portrait of the Artist as Young Man. All of these will help you get an idea of what modernism ("British" especially) is all about—Ulysses is an intervention into the central problems the modernists grappled with.

Finally: do not be afraid to seek secondary literature for help. I mean study guides, annotations, and essays by academics. I recommend in particular Ulysses Annotated by Gifford, and The New Bloomsday Book by Blamires. The former explains the myriad obscure references (to history, philosophy, literature, science, Dublin culture...), while the later provides basic but detailed plot overviews with special attention to the various synchronicities Joyce's text orchestrates.

I really would not try Gravity's Rainbow until after Ulysses, as well as after a similar "reading around" Pynchon.