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whats the "dadrock" of literature?

>> No.8255862

/mu/ posters should be banned

>> No.8255865

/sffg/

>> No.8255869

>>8255862

I think it's actually a decent question.

>>8255859

I'd probably say Southern Gothic or maybe Pomo, that'd match the time period.

>> No.8255871

>>8255859
definitely Tolkien

>> No.8255872

>>8255859
Tom Clancy

>> No.8255875

>>8255859
Hunter S. Thompson, Tom Wolfe, Jack Kerouac, etc.

>> No.8255879

>>8255862
truer words never spoken

>> No.8255882

>>8255859
Anything by Tom Clancy.

>> No.8255907

>>8255859
all the king's men by warren

>> No.8255909

>>8255862
This.

>> No.8255919

>>8255862
>>8255879
>>8255909

One of the first posts I read on this board was "lol go back to mew"

It was true then and it was true now.

>> No.8255925

>>8255859
Starting with the Greeks

>> No.8255931

Kipling, Steinbeck, Miller.

Dead White males, if you can meme it.

>> No.8255972

>>8255875
Kerouac for sure. Shit that was sooooo progressive in his day and man you kids don't even understand but really isn't that deep or interesting and honestly wasnt even that transgressive in its day.
I would give Thompson more cred cause he was and remained sharp till the end, always piercing any political or corporate bullshit. His article right after 9/11 was great for example. But I guess he still qualifies. Not all dad rock is bad after all.

>> No.8255995

>>8255862
fpbp

>> No.8256007

>>8255859
Hemingway and Fitzgerald is the only right answer

>> No.8256014

>>8255972
>His article right after 9/11 was great for example.
that article is amazing, but mostly he died as a writer after the rumble in the jungle
I think he wrote one supposedly good book after that, haven't read it

>> No.8256017

Really depends how pretentious your dad is.

>> No.8256021

non-fiction about ww2
historical fiction about rome, samurais, vikings etc

>> No.8256025
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8256025

>required reading in the 60s and 70s but irrelevant today
>teenagers misguidedly brag about reading it
>it's complete dogshit
fits the bill pretty well I think

>> No.8256047

>>8256025
Damn you can't be more wrong. Fucking Aarfy man.

>> No.8256347

>>8255859

My dad's favorite author is Steinbeck and his favorite musician is Dylan, who I guess is dad rock? Idk, I like Steinbeck and Dylan too but I don't pay too much attention to curating some identity for myself based on what I like.

I think it's sort of a dumb question, desu. Why does there have to be an equivalent? Maybe there isn't one.

>> No.8256370

>>8255875
/thread

>> No.8256374

Sports autobiographies

>> No.8256379

>>8255859
Kurt Vonnegut
Stephen King
Haruki Murukami
James Patterson
Discworld bullshit

>> No.8256447

>>8255875
this

What is worse than suburban white men in their early 20s who think their tastes are obscure and alternative because they like the beats?
triggers me bad

>> No.8256455

>>8255862

>> No.8256467

Judging by my dad
>Greene
>la Carre
>All key Russians
Currently doing Leatherstocking Tales by Fenimore Cooper

>> No.8256473

>>8256447
do people really think it's alternative to like the beats in 2016?
i mean i like the beats, but liking kerouac is like liking hemingway at this point.

>> No.8256480

Arthur C Clarke

>> No.8256498

>>8255859
Edgar Rice Burroughs, Rudyard Kipling, Joseph Conrad, H. Rider Haggard

>> No.8256506

>>8255875

throw in William Burroughs, Henry Miller, and DeLillo to a small extent

>> No.8256510

Kingsly Amis

>> No.8256516
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8256516

The Beatles - Kerouac
The Rolling Stones - Orwell
The Beach Boys - Hemingway
Bob Dylan (acoustic) - Steinbeck
Bob Dylan (electric) - Burroughs
Pink Floyd - Faulkner
The Doors - Huxley
Grateful Dead - Vonnegut
Led Zeppelin - HST
ACDC - John Le Carre
Kiss - Tom Clancy
Bruce Springsteen - Cormac McCarthy

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8256519

>>8256379
>Not liking Discworld

Nigga

>> No.8256575

I've never seen my dad read a book

>> No.8256737

>>8256447
Gay beats are still a little transgressive.
Kerouac was just a drunk who liked black and Latina grils.

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8256946

As far as literature goes, I only ever saw my dad read Don Quixote, Moby Dick, and Shakespeare. But even then he read those while he did the bulk of his reading when he was deployed (US Naval officer) and would be finishing them up when he came back home. At home, he only read historical nonfiction; things like biographies of Napoleon, John Wilkes Booth or Lincoln. But most of the time he'd just drink and watch baseball.

>> No.8256958

>>8255875

Add in Tolkien and Herbert but yeah, this is the most dadcore lit.

>> No.8257035

>>8256447
nobody thinks they're edgy for liking the beats except like sixteen year old boys lol

>> No.8257568

I can tell you some of what was on my granddad's bookshelf:

>Richard Llewellyn - How Green Was My Valley
>Tolkien - just Children of Hurin for some reason
>>8256025
>Richard Condon - The Manchurian Candidate
>James Herriot - All Creatures Great and Small + sequels
>Walter Isaacson - Einstein
>David McCullough - 1776
>Scrabble and crossword dictionaries
>Different types of Bible
>Louis L'Amour and assorted Old West nonfiction
>Sherlock Holmes
>Lots of King, Koontz, and >>8255872

I miss him.

>> No.8257657

>>8255859
Norman mailer john Updike and Saul bellow

>> No.8257660

>>8256025
Suckle on my knuckles

>> No.8257686

>>8256516
Burroughs is the static you get when turning the radio to the point between the local college radio station and the station thats basically an infinitely long sermon given by a conservative, loud preacher, a point that's 90% static but occasionally touches on a semi coherent phrase or song from the two nearby channels. These 2 channels are often close together but not always close enough to do this.

>> No.8257689

Anyone mention Norman mailer? Because Norman mailer.

>> No.8257690

>>8255859
HARDY BOYS

>> No.8257734

>>8257686
fucking /thread

>> No.8257735

>>8257734
In what way is that /thread? post is pretentious and answering a question nobody ever asked

>> No.8257739

>>8256516
negative one million/10

>> No.8257824

>>8256025
This 100%

>> No.8257894

>>8255859
Clive Cussler

>> No.8257922

>>8255859

military sci-fi like Ringo, Scalzi, Heinlein et. al

>> No.8257930

>>8255859
any 20th century American lit basically

>> No.8257987

>>8255859
Anything mentioned in the dead poets society
This is irrefutable

>> No.8257999

im surprised noone's mentioned Dean Koontz

>> No.8258003

>>8256516

Those are all insane comparisons. Hemingway and the Beach Boys? Bruce fucking Springsteen and Cormac McCarthy? Actually nearly all of them.

They're not even connected by time period. Music hasn't really been influenced by literature for the most part. But it's obvious how it influenced Kerouac and basically all writers since the invention of rock and roll.

>> No.8258026

Lee Child, Ken Follett.

>> No.8258028

The Catcher in the Rye

>> No.8258039

kerouac obviously

>> No.8258049

>>8258003
>Music hasn't really been influenced by literature for the most part.
>

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8258252

Many of the writers ITT started as counter-culture and with the progress of time, they became dad-lit. Not just the Beats, but Kingsley Amis, who now seems the very image of Brit dad-lit, started out as part of the Angry Young Men.

My vote is for the writers who were always dad-lit, like Cussler (>>8257894), Clancy (>>8255882) or Koontz (>>8257999). Plus Harold Robbins, who was the king-daddy of them all.

>> No.8258268

>>8256025
"Banned" books aren't even banned on a federal level, and are mostly banned because some helicopter mom in a town of 500 or less complained about their edginess and got them removed from a shitty school, despite the edginess being the only redeeming feature of most of them that contributes to their legacy, your pic related being a pretty good example alongside Catcher in the Rye

You'll never find ACTUAL banned books at a banned books display

>> No.8258314

Pulp and the Beatkniks

>> No.8258346

Shogun
Killer Angels

No dad-library without those two.

>> No.8258348

>>8256007
This

>> No.8258358

>>8256737
Gay beats are literally less transgressive. At least the cis-centred ones are still sexists. The Gays are lorded and any aggression or violence is just "understandable anger " get fucked

>> No.8258417

>>8258252
>My vote is for the writers who were always dad-lit, like Cussler (>>8257894), Clancy (>>8255882) or Koontz (>>8257999). Plus Harold Robbins, who was the king-daddy of them all.
They're dadcore but they're not really literary.

I agree with the following as being dadcore authors I only really see talked about by old people:
>Henry Miller
>Joseph Conrad (sans Heart of Darkness)
>Charles Dickens
>John Steinbeck