/lit/ - Literature

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baby's first Joyce

No actually. His writing is so easy, he makes horrible bragging material, and Joyce is known in academia for being too reliant on plot for his entire story. Absolutely no allusions, metaphors... just shit plot turns.

>>824512
boring short stories are boring
read 'the dead' then burn the book, trust me

OP I got The portrait of the artist as a young man

It's better.

Should I read Ulysses next?

I'm reading it now. Have four more stories to go.

Everything has been horribly depressing. He writes well and really cares for words and feeling, but damn it makes me sad to read these stories.

>>824560
aaa...
This faggot doesn't know what he's talking about at all.
Joyce was basically the first post-modernist.
His aim was only to encompass the whole of human history in a post-modern 'epic'.

>>824715
Not in Dubliners, bro. Does everything you know about Joyce come from /lit/ Finnegans Wake threads?

>>824739
I've studied him twice "bro".
You weren't referring specifically to Dubliners either, what's your problem McAssburger?

>>824715

It's called modernism bro, no need for a prefix

>>824742
>I've studied him twice
What does this mean? You've read two of his short stories? You read Portrait twice? Pretended to read Ulysses?

>>824748
He wrote in the modernist period, but he (along with some others) are variously categorised as modernist or post-modernist.
You'd be hard pressed to argue he wasn't the first post-modernist by 'Ulysses', really.

>>824752
I've studied his writing as part of two post-modernist classes at university, community college-bro.

>>824755

Not really, experimental writing isn't what makes someone a post-modernist. For all of his innovation Joyce still sought out the nature of man and had no problem with meta-narrative.

>>824715

>>824761
>two post-modernist classes

>>824766
Post-modernism has a meta-narrative, the meta-narrative of knowledge (which underpins everything). You might wish to more thoroughly examine what post-modernism involves. It does not involve some shit you read somewhere in dot point.
There is a fracturing of narratives, there is no "sudden disappearance of all narratives". That you can understand me and I you depends on quite a few narrative, just for a start.

>>824767
modern and post-modern literature
troll

It's easy reading and pretty good.
>>824536
is pretty accurate, but it's a good lead-in.

>>824777

A skepticism toward meta-narrative is not the same as no meta-narrative, derp. Joyce does not have that skepticism. Go back to community college.

>There is a fracturing of narratives

Next you're going to tell me that Faulkner, Woolf and Dos Passos were post-modernists.

>>824761
And what did you read, exactly, in these two university post-modernism classes? Dubliners definitely wouldn't qualify, Portrait wouldn't quality, Ulysses probably wouldn't qualify, and I know for sure that you didn't read the whole of the Wake. So...

>>824799
In your previous post you weren't so explicit about narratives were you?
I go to the best university in my state you twat.
Stop trying to save face.

>>824803
see>>824784

>>824804
>I go to the best university in my state you twat.
HAHAHAHA couldn't get away from home in the South?

>>824804

>had no problem with meta-narrative.

How is this not clear to you

>>824811
I don't live in united states of fail, faggot

>>824512
Yes, it is a good book. It isn't as lofty as Ulysses or Wake, but it's still something that anyone can read and enjoy.

The Dead is the best story. Read it and realize that you will never write a short story as great as The Dead.