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Who's going to be the next Kant?

Who will author the next Copernican Revolution in philosophy? Who will completely change the game?

Or have we already seen such an author, or authors?

>> No.8213799

>>8213796

No one from this shit generation, that's for sure.

>> No.8213801

ib4 nick land forced meme shitters
someone that manages to continue where hegel left off, which is not nearly as easy as dealing with a concrete problem like the copr or something

>> No.8213812
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8213812

>>8213801

>Hegel

Wrong direction. What we're waiting for is in fact the next Nietzsche, who was the next Schopenhauer, who was in turn the next Kant.

Whoever manages to take Nietzsche's ideas to their logical conclusions, or else refute them, will claim that prize.

>> No.8213815

>>8213799

Don't worry, friend!

We must sink to the lowest depths before rising to the highest heights.

>> No.8213818

>>8213796

first of all, learn to historicize. philosophy, once apprehended for what it really is, namely a rhetorical genre of writing, reveals itself to be appropriate to the early modern subjectivity which has not yet centered itself. Kant's revolution is the death knell of philosophy as its atavistic adherents understand it.

as to the question of the next revolution, it will surely occur in that other transdisciplinary realm of "theory," once it figures out how to escape its present double-bind between deconstruction and Marxism

>> No.8213830

>>8213818

>once it figures out how to escape its present double-bind between deconstruction and Marxism

The solution is easy: hang all post-structuralists/modernists, and anyone whose ideology can be traced in any way back to Hegel.

>> No.8213845
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8213845

The greatest minds in logic and math have pretty consistently gone into STEM fields in the last 100 years, and rightly so.

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8213859

>>8213845

>He thinks science can exist without philosophy/metaphics
>He is unironically a positivist
>He is probably an unwitting empiricist

>> No.8213883

>>8213859

>He's not an empiricist

Read Quine. There's no such thing as a synthetic a priori judgement. Hume was, and is, right.

>> No.8213896

>>8213830

This tbhfam

Alexander knew how to deal with bad philosophers.

>> No.8213908

>>8213859
>unwitting
>empiricist

pick one

>> No.8213919

>>8213830

It's a shame Nietzsche didn't road Hegel.

>> No.8213926

>>8213919

Hegel got censured by the Austrian authorities and then btfo by cholera

>> No.8213931

>>8213796
HUSSERL BRUH

>> No.8213944

>>8213926

Don't think Nietzsche was in a position to critique on the basis of STDs desu.

Didn't he have syphilis?

>> No.8213947

>>8213931

Do you think people will talk about him in centuries to come? In a century, even?

Nietzsche is the most famous of all recent philosophers to date, which says quite a lot.

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8213953

>>8213947

>Nietzsche is the most famous of all recent philosophers to date

>> No.8213957

>>8213953

>Zizkek
>Kikesky

Not philosophers pham

>> No.8213963
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8213963

>>8213957

Who's a philosopher in your estimation?

>> No.8213965

>>8213796
Edward Feser and Alasdair MacIntyre who will bring about a massive return to scholasticism.

>> No.8213972

It likely won't be known by the general public until that person is long dead

>> No.8213974

>>8213965

>2016
>Beating the dialectic dead horse

>> No.8213978

>>8213974
Not my fault it solves all the problems of modern philosophy

>> No.8214002

>>8213830
>>8213845
>>8213896
>>8213919
>>8213926
>>8213944

I want oafs to leave

>> No.8214007

>>8213978
it raises infinitely more problems than it solves. you'd know if you read more than fesers entry level propaganda

>> No.8214021

>>8213944

That's a myth. There's no evidence to support it.

>> No.8214030

>>8213812
In the face of modern science it's pretty difficult to refute Nietzsche's whole anti-teleology and anti-plato thing, so I guess we're just awaiting the arrival of the Ubermensch.

>> No.8214045

>>8213965
This Feser is going to go down in history for this

>> No.8214048

>>8214030

>In the face of modern science it's pretty difficult to refute Nietzsche's whole anti-teleology and anti-plato thing

You don't just get to make that claim and walk away.

>> No.8214058

>>8214007
>it raises infinitely more problems than it solves.
Nah.
>you'd know if you read more than fesers entry level propaganda
But I do.
Also, he has more than entry level stuff.

>> No.8214062

me

>> No.8214064

>>8213963

Living? There isn't one.

>> No.8214069

>>8214064

Deep, man, deep.

Who was the last living philosopher so far, then?

>> No.8214224

>>8213965
After Virtue a shit.

>> No.8214300

>>8213796
stefan molyneux

>> No.8214330

>>8213815
I have a feeling that a new Renaissance is coming within the next few decades. This age of hedonism will inevitably collapse within itself

>> No.8214407

>>8213796
He's at St. John's College in Santa Fe, 14 years old, already transcribed Nietzche's great works in latin

>> No.8214466

>>8214407

>transcribed into a dead language

So basically he has contributed nothing

>> No.8214502

>>8214466
Nah he said he's just practicing. His work wasn't meant to be taken as original philosophical work, just to stretch his abilities. He said that he will be able to write something by 21, he thinks.

>> No.8214509

>>8214502

who dat

>> No.8214518

>>8214509
Won't give names, but he's at St. John's College. He will do well I think. He's already finished Kant, Plato, Aristotle, Hume, Spinoza and Leibniz, though he thinks his Spinoza is lacking.

>> No.8214525

>>8214518
Is he a day of the week? Dining hall piano fella?

>> No.8214527

>>8214525
you know nuffin jon snaw

>> No.8214539

>>8214527
I fear for that desperate mofo (if you're referring to whom I suspect you are - I lived in his dorm)

>> No.8214541

>>8214539
Why do you fear for him?

>> No.8214553

>>8214541
Eventually someone will cease to put up with his outrageous shit - most likely himself before anyone else. He utterly lacks self awareness at the moment, but it's coming and fuck me it turns out he'll also be transferring to annapolis...anyway, never got the impression he was exceptional in any respect talking with him.

>> No.8214564

>>8214553
He'll be fine. He's just edgy.

>> No.8214566

Do you all actually think you're saying something that means something?

>> No.8214579

>>8214566
You alright mate?

>> No.8214586
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>>8213796
>seen such an author, or authors

What do you know of Difference and Repetition ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Difference_and_Repetition

1968 book by philosopher Gilles Deleuze, originally published in France. It was translated into English in 1994.

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8214591

>>8213796

>change the game

...the poet, who speaks in the name of a creative power...

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8214603

...The more our daily life appears standardised, stereotyped, and subject to an accelerated reproduction of objects of consumption, the more art must be injected into it...

>> No.8214610

>>8214603
shut your whore mouth

>> No.8214636

>>8213812
>Whoever manages to take Nietzsche's ideas to their logical conclusions

Wouldn't Zapffe or maybe even Cioran be the ones who have done this? I don't think you get much beyond those two in that direction.

>> No.8214697

>>8214007
>it raises infinitely more problems than it solves

Like ?

>> No.8214707

>>8214407
>>8214502
>>8214518
>>8214525
>>8214527
>>8214539
>>8214541
>>8214553
>>8214564
What the fuck are you talking about

>> No.8214714

>>8214707
Nietzsche 2.0

>> No.8214893

>>8213812
Nietzsche's ideas are already at their logical conclusion, his important ones anyways. Nietzsche unleashed an orgy of destruction upon the field and everyone after him just kind of putzes around in the rubble. I mean, he only claims part of the responsibility since it was really Kant who (unintentionally) fucked it all up, but to paraphrase N-God, Kant was the fox who got into the henhouse then left without eating them.

>>8213919
Nietzsche was relatively okay with Hegel.

>>8213953
Famous is perhaps the wrong way to phrase it. Nietzsche is the last person to commit to a paradigm shift in philosophy. Which 20th century philosophers will really be remembered in 200 years? Probably Foucault by sheer virtue of how big he has become in 21st century social science, Heidegger for his contribution to ontology and role in spreading Nietzsche outside of Germany. Deleuze might just become the most relevant thinker of the 20th century in the grand scheme of things but it will be a good while before he is fully unpacked.

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8214897

“Now it is clear, God cares only for what is his, busies himself only with himself, thinks only of himself, and has only himself before his eyes; woe to all that is not well pleasing to him. He serves no higher person, and satisfies only himself. His cause is - a purely egoistic cause.”