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Discuss the idea of the Ubermensch?

>> No.8211117
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Nietzsche was a good guy.

All those with tragic insight are not so far from becoming Ubermensch. The only difficulty being maintaining buoyancy in a world such as this one.

>> No.8211123

To literally WORSHIP Nietzsche. He didnt want us young, budding philosophers to do this, but He also wants us to THINK FOR OURSELVES!

>> No.8211289

It is to meld the unconscious and the conscious via experimentation and inquiries of lucid dreams. But to be used for right, not wrong.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/focus-forgiveness/201307/conscious-the-unconscious

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>>8211105
Well, in my humble opinion, the Übermensch is the carefree and fire-hearted more-than-man. He is idealistic version of a true lover of life. But he is also the ideal wanderer, the ideal warrior, the ideal thinker. In essence, he fully embraces both what makes him a human/animal (emotions, love, etc.) but also what makes him more than an animal (intelligence, art, the search for a telos).
It´s a very complicated concept, too big for words.

>> No.8212607

>>8211117
what is this statue

>> No.8212631

>>8212607
neoclassical bs doesn't need name

>> No.8212640

>>8212631
can u jus tell me please
i really like the aesthetics

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>>8212640
I think it's by that nazi sculptor

>> No.8212661

>>8211808
Sounds like judge holden lmao

>> No.8212664
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i haven't read much of him because I find it to be way too difficult, i also find the prose very awkward, at least in the Genealogy of Morals and Truth and Lie in the Non-moral Sense (which is probably the most accessible thing by him).

anyway, if i had to hazard a guess it would be that the Ubermensch is the Apollonian person harmonizing with, or a developing an equally pronounced, Dionysian drive/will.

>> No.8212668

>>8212607
helios

>> No.8212675

>>8211289
This article is not that bad, but it won't help solidify your point, do you have any other sources that help clarify the whole "melding" concept and how it relates to the OP.

>> No.8212692

>>8212640
arno breker

>> No.8212784

>>8211289
isn't this what Jung argued with individuation?

basically where one learns to fully understand and either make peace with or satisfy all their unconscious desires if they want to become a properly developed person, i.e. the ubermensch

>> No.8212789

>>8212661
You must be at least 18 years old to post on 4chan. Delete this post.

>> No.8212846

>>8211105
The Ubermensch is the mensch that has overcome itself, and has seen through all spooks in the process. Such an individual is yet to exist.

>> No.8213238

The human being is too divided and flawed to ever obtain such a state. But in at least attempting you do better yourself.