/lit/ - Literature

your inner voice

>>8181383
Nobody and just worry about getting your ass out of bed in the morning.

God.

>>8181383
Wittgenstein and Hegel.

>>8181383
>fandango
>scaruffi
lmao

Listen to yourself OP

Your parents.

>>8181397
What's God's opinion about pepe memes?

>>8181402
http://www2.b3ta.com/mind-control/

Lol at still posting the version that includes Putin and Trump

>>8181404
Normalfaggotry

>>8181404
Have you ever seen God and Pepe in the same room?

I hate leftists, but the type of person worse than leftists are those idiots who are all "HEY GUISE DOES ANYONE THINK BOTH SIDES ARE BAD hyuck"
Coward.

>>8181414
Verily, for they are one and the same.

>>8181421
I think that image deals more with the issue of putting someone on a pedestal and labeling them a voice of authority on a certain subject when they don't actually deserve the platform or label.

Only thing this pic is missing is Weird Twitter

>>8181440
Harold Bloom definitely fuckin deserves it

>>8181440
I post on mu a lot and i dont take fantano seriously at all, i understand its just his opinion, but a lot of people get fucking mad as fuck, especially underage fuckboys who worship kanye west because the mean man with melon head gave him a bad score.
The people who hate him put more value into him because they get buttmad at him scoring someone they like badly

>brother Nathaniel

literally just some old jew who converted to orthodox Catholicism and talks shit about jews

>>8181461
I think he's just a blep that doesnt' actually know anything about music (IE no formal education or training). And of course the things he likes aren't any better than Kanye

>>8181383
>zizek
>bloom
>varoufakis
>pseudointellectual
also h3h3 for not being any kind of intellectual
the rest are pretty much all confirmed shit though, except for maybe a half point for chomsky

>>8181481
Will Self is alright too

>>8181383
Hello, Spaft!

>>8181500
I'll give a half point since I haven't read any of his novels

You should listen to experts on a given topic, OP. Granted, there are a few experts in the OP pic, but most of them frequently talk about things outside of their field of expertise

>>8181383
>he entertained the thought of lits no true scotsman

>>8181440
>deserve
spooky

>>8181800
People with knowledge about a certain topic deserve a platform to speak on that topic.

>>8181807
Then they should look for a way to get that platform.

>>8181809
Actually, we should give it to them.

>>8181819
No, they should try to get it themselves, like the people in OP's image.

>>8181826
Bad idea. If that's how we're gonna do things, then the people in OP's image are the ones that people are going to listen to.

>>8181836
Not if the people with ''actual knowledge'' start working a little harder to be heard.

>>8181840
Maybe they would if we gave them an incentive to.

>>8181848
If they need an incentive then they can go fuck off.

>>8181383
Where is Adam Carolla

>>8181383
Actual smart people

>>8181856
That type of thinking just encourages anti-intellectualism

>>8181421
I don't believe that was the intention, it's just that most of these are pseudo-intellectual fucks who would not have had a voice if we weren't all retarded.

>>8181877
Great, go change something about it.

>>8181877
Anti-intellectualism is great

>>8181880
I am trying to, by encouraging you to as well.

>>8181884
It's not working

>>8181887
Then I'll keep trying.

>>8181383
>chomsky
>pseudo-intellectual
>in the same image with all these retards

>>8181383
The Greeks

>>8181900
Tbh if we were removing Pseuds from the list Chomsky wouldn't make the top 20 cut

>>8181900

Pretty much all of Chomsky's 'contributions' to linguistics have now been superseded.

All that remain are his stupid contributions to those fields he knows nothing about; politics, etc.

>>8181900
He's only pseudo-intellectual in the sense that he talks about politics and gets butthurt when political scientists don't take him seriously

>>8181912
He'd make the top 5 easily, actually

>>8181912
2bh, the ones I don't quite understand are Putin, Trump and Varoufakis

Who are top 5 from this list that have something to say and are intelligent?

>>8181928
Chomsky, Bloom, Self, maybe Zizek sometimes, idk who else

Will Self is a hack.

>>8181928
Sam Harris, he's certainly intelligent and always touches on very interesting and diverse topics. He generally tends to invite experts on said topics that he talks to. His podcasts are great. (bar 2 recent ones)

>>8181952
Ah, didn't know he did one with David Chalmers. That might be entertaining to listen to, since they have very different views on consciousness.

>>8181964
Listening to it now and it's starting to seem like they might not be so different

>Fantano

Why is Fantano on that list? Just some tell-em-how-to-think "critic". How is critic even viable anymore when data is so free and accessible? These people are so insecure in their likes and dislikes that they need to get on a pedestal and broadcast their opinions to the world.

Fuck a critic.

Worst thread on /lit/ right now

>>8182383
Yeah... because you posted in it lol

>>8181383
this is a very good unbiased list of pseuds. though like >>8182357 points out, fantano has never claimed to be an intellectual. i like how stefan molyneux bills himself as a philosopher, that's so laughably cringey.

basically these people are good for surface level commentary on current events, that's it. you should be reading works of actual cultural analysis or listening to lectures by real academics as your primary source of information. hell, even articles from online journals are better than this youtube dreck.

>>8181918
Saying his contributions to linguistics have been superseded is a lot like saying Platos's "contributions" to philosophy have been superseded. Well yes, few philosophers agree with the theory of forms or talk about philosopher-kings like a serious idea, but that's kind of missing the point.

>>8182404

I also don't know when h3h3 claimed to be an "intellectual", I think he's pretty self-aware in that matter.

Clifford Lee Sargent
Also
>Fandingo
>next to PJW and fucking Gavin Mcinnes

>>8181383
Schopenhauer is pretty cool

>>8182636
Cliff is too obscure to include, basically only people on this board know/care about him

>>8182636
>>8182733
Oh wait.. you're saying OP should listen to that guy. Lol pls

>>8181414
Ridiculous question. The Holy Trinity is omnipresent.

>>8181421
Fuck off cock drinker

>>8182733
>>8182739
Not listen so much as keep him in an open tab for when you're doing something monotonous.

He's got some cool opinions and the low subscriber count keeps everything comfy and sincere.

>>8181383
>Carlin
Fuck you OP

>>8181387
Fpbp

someone post the finished one

>>8183923
carlin is fucking garbage for idiots

What the fuck is wrong with Louis Theroux?!

anyone else think the OP's picture is big chunk of your viewing history being made into a collage, and is oddly accurate?
Everyone is in there. I've listened to hours of each person and know their views.
Now i listen to sargon, milo, gavin and read breitbart. but in the past I would follow the more lefty faces on there... I can only wonder what paths other people have taken.

the picture is surreal for me, is all i'm saying, it's too self-aware and it's spot-on, it feels like only someone with access and who studies to my internet history or myself could make it

this is a solid troll post, and it hit close to him.

>>8185248
>Now i listen to sargon, milo, gavin and read breitbart
how can you actually be this sad and pathetic

>>8185248
I came from the front page just to ask if it is normal that in /lit/ troll posts are answered with a succinct analysis instead of why it is shitpost instead of just calling OP a faggot like the rest of the site does

where's edward snowdonk?

>>8181928
Frank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxs_mTRjLAU

>>8185259
I've always been a western chauvinist and a proponent of freespeech, especially speech that doesn't fit the establishment's narrative -- and the establishment today is undoubtedly the left. I've always been edgy. Sexism in video games is the modern violence in video games debate of the 90's, only it's by the left now,. I find these guy's irreverent personalities the most agreeable and amusing. They are closest to what I'm accustomed to from being on image boards all my life. I'm still not religious and i'm liberal on most social issues, which is the opposite of their views. Actually, christianity is mostly used a flag to fly under, it's more of a guide line then a rule - you don't have to believe in it, simply just acknowledge it's value and it's history to the west. If you're the "but the forefathers were deists" cringe-worthy, thin-skinned modern atheist, you won't enjoy them. But to meIt seems that their side doesn't really care if you come over with opposing views, it's all about Liberterianism vs authoritarism, who wants to intrude on your life most, and that is definitely the left.

tl;dr i enjoy the edgy humor, they don't shut down opposing views, oddily enough they're more liberal the the illiberal left.

I'm following whoever is the funniest, and that right now is the right. the left is humorless, dour, shrill.

build the wall 10 feet higher, and the west is the best.

>>8185298
do you have some kind of autism?

I mean, he clearly doesn't a give a fuck and he was just teasing you

>>8185267
yes. to cleanse the shit we must first analyze and deconstruct it

>>8185305
how has it been working thus far?

because your board is still filled with shitposting and, akin to warfare in mankind, will always be there

>>8185303>him: you're sad and pathetic for liking them
>me: this is the reason for why i follow them
>you: he was just kidding, bro
wut? there's no hint at all of it being being a joke. All I see is a straight forward insult with not much else in tone but contempt. How did you get the idea that he was teasing me lol I genuinely don't understand?

>>8185315
>All I see is a straight forward insult with not much else in tone but contempt
that's literally teasing you
and you are retarded enough to waste your time writing that wall of text for someone insulting you?

you are autistic, end of the discussion

>>8185248
>read breitbart.

literally lmaoing now

>tfw no syriangirl gf

>>8185319
It took me less less than 5 minutes to write that, browsing image boards is a waste of time in general, I enjoyed putting my thoughts and reasons together into text form, and If anything is autistic is the belief that frank, explicit insults is "teasing.".
you're making assumptions about the posters intentions without any premise besides how you perceived it -- which I might add is stupid, and most likely wrong unless you're the samefag who posted it(which I'm starting to think)

yea, and this discussion is over because you're fucking retarded, and just to clear that was not teasing as I know you like to interpret insults that way.

>>8181383
>Neil DeGrasse Tyson
>pseudo intellectual

I'm certainly sick of seeing him everywhere and especially him being constantly fellated by Le Reddit and atheist fedoras, but that doesn't mean he's not an accomplished astrophysicist.

Whoever made this picture is really going to put Tyson, Bloom and fucking Noam Chomsky in the same boat as An Coulter, John Oliver and even that literal nobody fuccboi English twat from Info Wars? Get out of my office.

Also, George Carlin is awesome. Fuck off.

Also, what's wrong with that fat Skippy dude from Youtube? He just does standard unboxing and gaming shit? Right? Or does he do soap boxing about politics??

>>8185333
end
of
discussion

>>8185336
neil degrasse tyson is shit, all he can do is repeat poor sophistry
same for carlin
the problem is that you're an idiot yourself

>>8185333
Touchy.

>>8185336
The problem with them is that they write pop-science shit in fields which they have no relation to. They might be great at their special field but not when they talk about pseudo psycho-analyses, social criticism and other retarded topics.

>>8185342
I was only teasing. Even the part about not teasing, was teasing,

>>8185310
we don't like nihilists here

>>8185356
that's not nihilism, though

conflict is perennial and it is glorious

>>8185341
I mean, you could at least give examples of what you're talking about, right?

Irritating Reddit meme or not, Tyson is an accomplished astrophysicist, and the burden of proof is on you to make me see that he is somehow not at all intelligent--just pretending.

If you don't like Carlin's tone or is bluster, I guess that's understandable, but all he did was tell the truth.

Are you one of the disgusting obese consumerists he called out or something? Go eat some deep dish yak dick or something, then.

>>8185356
me too, how many awards have you won on jump contests? because that should have awarded you quite a juicy one

>>8185359
I love it as well

>>8185363
neil degrasse tyson is fat and goofy-looking

to the Greeks, ugliness was a strong objection, almost a refutation

>>8185359
I was under the impression you were saying it was futile and pointless.

>>8185368
that wasn't me

fighting nature is pointless, nature itself is divine

>>8185370
>fighting nature is pointless
I fundamentally disagree with notion. In fact I think it is what makes humans exceptional.

>>8185370
>>8185375
that comment was mine, and I think both of you are correct in different ways

While humanity certainly has an astonishing potential to trascend everything that nature supposedly imposes on it, being glorious how far we have separated ourselves from animals and our primitive ancestors, it is gratifying to see how the primordial whims and instincts will never fade completely and will always have weight in our interactions with the world. Both the capability for surpassing our condition and the condition itself are amazing, and not necessarily opposed

>>8181383
Is Mimi Al-Laham aka Syrian Girl much of a rhetorician? It seems to me she has a disdain for that kind of thing and wants to operate on the facts only (the facts she chooses to believe, but she presents them as such).

>>8185338
Hit me with a quotation, comrade

>>8185394
I just Googled her, checked her Facebook and all I see is an attention whore (look at her photos) posting random edgy "facts" with no actual basis.

>>8185259
how can you actually be this butthurt

>>8185323
yeah.. it' fucking hilarious that some guy reads a popular news site

if you read gawker (RIP) then i'll probably hate you but i won't laugh

>>8181383
why you put putin there you little man?

>>8182404
Where do you go to find this analysis, just read whatever comes up in a Google search?

>>8186267
sure: scholar.google.com

>>8185367

That doesn't mean shit, they also believed their gods lived on top of a not that high mountain.

>>8181383
The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church

>>8181421
>Can't deal with people disagreeing with two pretty specific ideologies out of literally thousands.

>>8181481
Varoufakis is crap ngl. Zizkek and Chomskek are ok if a bit autistic

>>8182782
>implying you can see The Holy Trinity

nignog tryina get a handbeezy

>>8186442
That meme is old

>>8181383
John Oliver, Sarkeesian, Noam Chomsky, Bill Maher, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris,Sargon of Akkad, everyone on Infowars and Trump are probably the biggest retards of all.

They love to yell at each other and then retreat, circlejerking about their retarded views on multiculturalism. While ignoring the fact that they're all smelly deviant liberals.

Bump.

>>8185230
He's a savage cunt

>>8181383
where's Millennial Woes at?

zizek isnt a rhetorician, he's a performer.

>>8181383
me

>>8187162
And boy does he put on an exciting performance. Every time he sniffs it ups the tension just that little bit. Every and so on has me dying to hear more.

>>8187165
so the embarrassingly irrelevant person who just put on a trip in order to shitpost?

i wish deep&edgy or even onionring would come home

if it were just three years ago this pic would 100% include d&e in it

>>8187210
Literally who?

>>8187216
go fuck yourself summerfag

>>8187224
That doesn't answer the question.

can someone tell me why do we hate MDE again
they did nothing wrong

>>8187231
I like them, but Sam is still kind of pseud rhetorician

>>8181383
Besides being pseuds, what's the correlation between all these people? There are plenty of other, more public pseudo-intellectual figures out there but this chart contains a weird mix of internet celebrities and genuine "academics". Who are they targeting?

>>8187249
This is just a pic containing people that 4chan likes to talk about.

>>8187231
yea, they are funny but sam is an obvious shill

>>8187257
Who is he a shill for? Just himself?

>>8187245
i think thats the joke
>>8187257
shilling what?

>>8187245
Sam is a fucking idiot, but I think he knows that

He still has a great talent for vocalising the shame of our generation though

>>8186065
Be careful the jews and the illuminati are everywhere controlling the internet my friend.

>>8187288
Breitbart is largely pro-Israel.

>>8187273
who's views is he always endorsing, when his routine takes a political turn? idk, i figure shill or the stupidest of contrarians like a lot of people on here.

AYYY DID YOU GUISE KNOW THE JEWS CONTROL EVERYTHING LMAO!!!

>>8187324
Yes, he has different opinions than you.

>>8187330
Thanks... I didn't know that.

>>8187330
literally breitbart

>>8187335
he has trendy opinions. he has the opinions of the logical alternative, which isn't very original, interesting, or necessarily accurate.

>>8187354
Most people have pretty trendy opinions... that's why they're trendy.

>>8181421

>>8181421
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>>8181421
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>>8187389
How is this one relevant?

>>8181421
..
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>>8187371
are they trendy because most people have them or because most people are lead to believe in them?

>>8187400
That's deep.. guess Sam was just another sheeple the whole time.

>>8187381
In between two extremes is not moderate. it's just being normal.

Both sides actually do have good points, though.

>>8187381
>>8187389
>>8187391
>>8187396
reminds me of stirner

>>8187420

>>8181421
The most retarded people are those who think politics are nothing but a 1 dimensional line.

>>8187436
True, it's actually a 10-dimensional superstring.

>>8187436
>implying we are not the age of post-politics where it's just a shitty popularity contest with no substance as opposed to the old times when the sides were based on clearly laid out principles

>>8187453
>the old times when the sides were based on clearly laid out principles

you're an idiot if you think this was ever the case

>>8181421
Both major sides really are shit though. I'm sorry you can't tolerate people who disagree with you. And instead of limiting yourself to the two specific groups that are popular at the moment you can't pick from all the viewpoints out there there are to consider.
>>8187381
So not wanting to choose between two extremes triggers you?

>>8187482
>So not wanting to choose between two extremes triggers you?
no, people who refuse to take a position on anything and use their "neutrality" and "le above it all" attitude as an excuse for their own cowardice trigger me.

>>8181383
zygmunt bauman

>>8187443
>10-dimensional superstring
Politics is obvioisly indescribable as anything but a separable Hilbert space desu

What happens when Donald Trump loses the election?

>>8187544

The people who made Trump possible aren't going to go away. I wouldn't get too comfortable.

>>8187541
Politics is a pluriverse

>>8187556
No I ask what happens when Donald Trump loses the election?

>>8187556

You mean Lefties who ignored people's legitimate concerns about immigration/etc, and derided them as racists/bigots/islamophobes/homophobes/etc at every opportunity?

Yeah, they'll probably stick around.

>>8187562
No I ask what happens when Donald Trump loses the election?

>>8187562

I agree, I'm just saying that this election isn't going to be the end of it, no matter who wins. Things are going to get even more polarized.

"It doesn't matter if Donald Trump loses, we still win."

t. Trump voter

>>8187496
And if they aren't neutral, instead just holding views neither side represents to a significant level?

>>8187574

The Republicans control both houses, and will keep that control for some time. The Dems best hope is that those illegals really do get citizenship and slowly outnumber the fucking white males, the majority of whom vote republican.

Ever wondered where that rhetoric came from? It's just politics.

>>8187615
Yeah relying on the white vote really did you well with Romney, who had even more of the Latino vote than Trump currently has.

>>8187544
The same thing that happens when he wins.. nothing really changes

>>8187496
The vast majority of people have very strong opinions on things despite having ridiculously little understanding of them, which ought to be a lot more concerning.

Wisdom doesn't lead to "neutrality" but I think it does lead to a ton of humility.