/lit/ - Literature

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In order (inb4: 'le you don't know what you're talking about...' I've read all their works)

Molyneux
Harris
Nietzsche

>>8043170

De Selby
Bergson
Leibniz

>>8043156
Stirner(Fun ideas and concepts, Very interesting)
Hegel(Long, complicated read, deep concepts, very interesting look at history)
Diogenes the Cynic(Very fun stories about him, Interesting lifestyle, Almost mythical.)

lmao, well memed

>>8043156
Aristotle
Leibniz
Kant

>>8043170
good list anon

for me:
evola
rand
hitchens

>>8043209
jesus this is a joke, right?

Sagan
Galileo
Newton

I realize they're not considered philosophers but if not then philosophy is fucking stupid. My girlfriend is taking a course in philosophy, and last night we were looking at something by Spinoza and there was the most retarded reasoning I've ever read in my life. There were all these attributes, and Substances, and all this meaningless fucking around, and we started to laugh. It's pretty funny, this supposed great philosopher, and we're laughing at him. Why do people make excuses for philosophers? In the same period there was Newton, there was Harvey studying the circulation of the blood, there was Galileo pointing his telescope up to the sky, there were people with methods of analysis by which actual progress was being made. You can take every one of Spinoza's propositions, and take the contrary propositions, and look at the world and you can't tell which is right.

Plato

>>8043209
You, I like you. But for me it's:

Murray Rothbard
Nick Land
Russell Brand (only for his metaphysics-spirituality)

>>8043222
Pleb out

>>8043245
can you answer my question?

>>8042475

Wittgenstein
Charles Sanders Peirce
Quine

Neil Degrasse Tyson. Truly a revolutionary philosopher because he's a person of color.

>>8043209

dead on. to add to that

degrasse tyson (importnat philospher/popularizer)

Dawkins (controversial on /lit/, i know, but invaluable to modern understanding of evolution and religion)

and probably James Randi (one could argue that his works represent philosophy in its oldest form [separating good arguments from bad])

>>8043249
I would advise reading this.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/

>>8043156
Rand
Nietzsche
Stiriner

I hate collectivism with passion.

Plato, Diogenes and Epictetus

>>8043312

This guy knows what he's talking about at least unlike the other memers ITT

I would replace Epictetus with Aurelius

>>8043333
>Aurelius
>every second page is him whining too himself about caring what people think and how he should stop
>philosophy

kys

Me
Myself
And I

The Father
The Son
The Holy Ghost

>>8043156
Black
Forest
Babbler

>>8043533
lel heidegger lel

Shouldn't we ask who are our "bottom" three philosophers, given they would be the foundation, the basis of our ways of life?

>>8043233
I know it's bait but I unironically think this even though I know logical positivism is wrong.

>>8043580
look at his forehead!

>>8043156
Schopenhauer
Mainlander
Some other emo fuck, Inmendham... maybe

>>8043673
Schopenhauer's philosophy is based off butthurt and mommy issues, or at last his views on women are. Which probably discredits the rest of his work.

To read
>Plato
>Nietzsche
>Kierkegaard

For content
>Nietzsche
>Hegel
>Marcus Aurelius

>>8043700
PLE
B

>>8043687
>Which probably discredits the rest of his work.
No it doesn't, He is butthurt because women are retarded. He didn't have problems with women and forming relationships with them. He had problems with them as people. Have you even read his essays and aphorisms, huh cuckboy?

>>8043700
Pleb detected.

>>8043687
What the hell is Mainlander's philosophy based off of then? the scars from his self-harm?

>>8043156
Quine
Putnam
Lewis

Martin Heidegger
Norbert Elias
Jacques Ellul

Guess which ideology I'm sticking with.

>>8043705
>>8043710
Niggas don't know Hegel like I do.

Aurelius doesn't split hairs about conquering yourself

Nietzsche needs no introduction.

In summary, go fuck yourselves

1. Montaigne
2. Nietzsche
3.

Neechee
Spinoza
Heraclitus

>>8043710
>>8043705
You two are a couple of idiots. There is a reason those philosophers are considered top tier. They are good thinkers and some of them are fun reads.

>>8043743
they're shit for pseuds.

harris has debunked them all
also:
>appealing to popularity

wew

>>8043748
>I appealed to popularity
Good one. This doesn't automatically dismiss my argument.
>they're shit for pseuds
They are building blocks of philosophy.
>harris has debunked them all
If you want to play the "spot logical fallacies" game then I'm calling you out on your appeal to authority. Just because you say Sam Harris debunked them doesn't mean you have given me a reason to believe you.

>>8043748
>Harris has debunked them all

Good one guys

>>8043743
>There is a reason those philosophers are considered top tier.

They are not considered "top tier" - you ignorant shit-for-brains.

>>8043758
if you'd read harris, you'd know.

Reading him will enlighten you and i can not encapsulate his wisdom on fucking memechan.

I have a feeling you'll resist but if you choose to put your pride to the side, read all his works and decide for yourself whether or not i am wrong. If you still think that those 'philosophers' are not laughable in comparison then frankly, i feel sorry for you

>>8043233
Right, and let's just ignore the contributions of Leibniz, Descartes, Pascal etc etc to the sciences. Never mind that that wasn't the fucking question. I mean you're criticizing philosophers for doing philosophy. Are you retarded? That's like buying an oil painting and complaining it's not a car.

I mean for fuck's sake, Sagan was barely even a scientist you dumb shit, he was a fucking entertainer. And have you even studied Newton and Galileo? I mean have you read anything they've written?

I sincerely hope that you're just a troll.

>>8043781
I am going to read Sam Harris eventually but you should put your arrogance and attitude away because it really undermines your attempts at being reasonable if you're being unreasonably annoying.

>>8043782

>>8043778
If we go by the majority then they are considered top tier, if we go by the individual then the idea of a top tier would be subjective to the individual.

>>8043787
thanks for the advice, i'll choose to decline. Mainly because i disagree that I'm being annoying. When a writer like HArris decimates all other philosophers with his genius and these old plebs are still getting revered, it is in the name of wisdom, enlightenment and truth that I recommend him so vigorously. You ought to be thanking me.

>>8043807
You've been spooked.

>>8043811
i pity you my unenlightened friend. Pick up Harris. Don't fall for le stirner meme. Become good. Objectively.

>>8043804
No, if we go by majority of philosophers, the top 10 is:

1) Hume
2) Aristotle
3) Kant
4) Wittgenstein
5) Quine
6) Russell
7) Lewis
8) Frege
9) Rawls
10) Davidson

Source: http://philpapers.org/surveys/demographics.pl

>>8043716
The only good post in this thread.

>>8043841
see
>>8043170

>>8043297
>hate collectivism
>Stirner

>>8043156
God, Jesus, the holy spirit

St. Thomas
Aristotle
Josef Pieper

Kierkegaard
Nietzsche
Sartre

>>8043748
>>8043781
>>8043807
>>8043818
Harris? As in that piece of shit Sam Harris? What the fuck happened to this board? Did we get overrun by 12-year-olds again?

>>8044073
>these 3 plebs

Harris is a far more powerful thinker.

>>8044073
>Kierkegaard
>Sartre

I don't think you understand Nietzsche

>Hegelians
>Still existing

1) Schopenhauer
2) Plato
3) Kant

In that order.

Roger Scruton for pop/political philosophy.

Sorry for asking in this thread but I didn't wanted to make a new one, I couldn't find the book "early greek philosophy" mentioned in pic related on the internet and because I'm a NEET I can't buy it, I did found "The presocratic philosophers" by the same author Jonathan Barnes, if someone here has read both could you tell me if the content varies too much between the two books? Thanks everybody

Augustine
Plato
MacIntyre

heraclitus
aristotle
heidegger

>>8043156
Derrida
Lacan
Neil DeGrasse Tyson

They all kinda suck.

Kierkegaard
Diogenes
Nietzsche

I don't even really believe anything Nietzsche says, I'm just a sucker for weirdos, especially ones who had strange romantic attachments for a single girl (cough cough hunchback)

>>8043156
Sartre
Nietzsche
Camus

Ralph Waldo Emerson
Camus

don't have a third thats a clear favorite

>>8043156
Judith Butler
Alain de Benoist
Richard Dawkins

Nick Land
Nick Land
Nick Land

>>8043170
>Harris
Anyone who'd star in a movie like Night at the Museum is a hack.

>>8043156
Jaden Smith
Russell Brand
Lena Dunham

>>8043156
John Green
James Joyce
Jeb Bush

Aristotle
Kant
Epictetus/Aurelius/Seneca trio

>>8043170
What do you like about Molyneux? I've only watched a few of his videos and he just strikes me as a more tame, more intelligent, more anarchic version of /pol/.

>>8045751
He's obviously memeing

1) Bertrand Russell
2)Plato
3)Nietzsche

(Hume then Kant for 4 and 5)

>>8043156
1. Heraclitus
2. Plato
3. Heidegger

>>8045751
Apart from him being the greatest thinker alive and probably the closest incarnation of a true ubermensch the world has seen and will ever see?

Gee, I dunno.

>>8044189
try here
>>8045056

>>8044950
Great list

Greater list:

Camus
Nietzche
Zizek

>>8043238
>>8043209
>>8043255
Best keks I've had in a while.

>>8043156
Ludwig Von Misses
Hans Hermann Hoppe
Stefan Molyneux

>>8043156
Plato
Hegel
Stirner

Dialogues, Dialectics, and Der Einzige.

>Stirner
>Hume
>James
Morality is a spook and you can't know nuffin but let's just pretend it's real for the sake of convenience.

>>8046427
Read more Harris idiot

>>8046436

>New Atheist meme philosophers

>itt
>no Seneca
>no Epictetus
>no Marcus Aurelius

SHAME
SHAME
SHAME
SHAME

>>8046436
>Sam Harris
>>8046464
>stoicism
>not the "just be yourself bro" of philosophy

>>8043156

Plato
Jesus
Dostoevsky

>inb4 generic
>inb4 not real
>inb4 not a philosopher

>>8043333
Nice quads.

To me Aurelius was an easier read, but Epictetus was the richer thinker, at least going off of the works we have... Has anyone read Seneca?

My list so far:
Aristotle
Epictetus
Nietzsche

Camus gets an honorable mention for The Plague and I can't wait to start Heidegger.

>>8043156

Hegel, Marx, Deleuze.

>>8046472
>philosophy that sustained the Roman Empire for centuries
>followed by literal emperors of men
>famous for helping military men survive captivity, and currently taught to navy seals

vs.

>edgy philosphies followed by over-mothered fedoras
>used as a replacement for a personality in order to justify personal shortcomings
>people like Nietzsche held in high regard, who, despite talking writing extensively about the ubermensch, was a loser whose mustache scared women

You will know them by their fruits

>>8046495
>Has anyone read Seneca?

Letters from a Stoic is excellent, get it immediately

Camus
Heidegger
Kierkegaard

>>8043156
Aristotle
Aquinas
Hilaire Belloc

>>8046510
Appeal to authority: the post.

Stoicism is a meme. You can't just force yourself to not be unhappy.

>>8046525
If you want to spend time on philosophy largely used by frustrated manchildren then that's your choice. I'll stick to Seneca.

Plato
Benjamin (does he count as a philosopher?)
Derrida

>>8046531
>be Germanic tribesman
>Romans invade and kill everyone
>watch my whole family get executed
>kept as a slave and transported back to Rome
>beaten and raped every day
>full of sorrow, decide to just kill myself
>climb up to the highest tower when my master is asleep
>about to jump when I hear a voice behind me
>to my surprise, it's the emperor
>takes my hand and says "Yo dude, have you ever tried just not being sad?"
>jump

>>8043156
Kwame Anthony Appiah

Robert Bernasconi

Jean-Godefroy Bidima

>>8046525
t. faggot who is driven around by his emotions

>>8046547
>Germanic countries now universally rich and successful
>Germanic people known for not expressing emotion and thinking rationally

Glad we're in agreement

>>8046554
>>8046556
>he hasn't realize that reason is a slave to emotion
Oh, you poor fools

>>8046537
Benjamin is a poetical thinker, not a philosopher

1.Hitler
2.Stalin
3.Osama bin laden

>>8046577
I guess you're right.
Poetical/political thinker fits him quite nice!

>>8046566
>oh you poor fools

we have gone full circle back to >>8046510

>>8043233

>>8043233
The reason you were laughing at him is because you did not even remotely understand him.
Simple as that really.

>>8046591
The massive circlejerk over 'muh reason' is more fedora than my post. Reason is ultimately inseparable from emotion, and you can't just disconnect yourself from your own feelings. Humans are irrational creatures.

>>8043687
Kek. Found the woman.

>>8046254
Thanks anon

1. Plato
2. Kierkeegard
3. Kant

Not the ones i read or agree the most, but they are indeed my favorites

>>8043233
ITT: Babu's first reaction formation.
>lol why does spinoza sound so silly lel
>guess I should just laugh instead of pouting
>goo goo ga ga le empirical method XD

Haven't read much philosophy, but I get ideas that I like when I read Kierkegaard and Nietzsche. I like the parts of Tractatus Logico-philosophicus that I can understand.

I'm more of a social sciences-guy.

>>8046705
Different guy here.

Explain why he's wrong then.

>Marx, Evola, and Nietzsche

Not actually 'favorites' I guess, just more like the ones I'm most interested in right now and also like a lot.

>>8046707
>I'm more of a social sciences guy

Do you say things like "I literally can't even" and share images about Bernie Sanders and how slut shaming is wrong that take up everyone's news feed while silently cursing the patriarchy for preventing you from getting laid in an unrestricted social-sexual model?

1.) Bertrand Russell
2.) Henri Bergson
3.) Georg Hegel


Still Living Philosophers;

1.) David Chalmers
2.) Jürgen Habermas
3.) Saul Kripke

Emil Cioran
Lev Shestov
Mircea Eliade

>Nietzsche
>Nietzsche
>Oh, did I forget to mention Nietzsche?

>>8048042
>>Pleb
>>Pleb
>>Oh, did I forget to mention Pleb?

Camus
Chuang Tzu
Diogenes

Me, myself , and I

>>8046726
No. Fuck off.

>>8046829
I find it totally inconceivable that the person who wrote this list is the least bit intelligent. It is therefore impossible that you are the least bit intelligent.

>>8043156
>Pythagoras
>Marquis de Sade
>Simone de Beauvoir

Confucius
Confucius
Confucius

>>8043193
Sorry but Leibniz was full of shit. His metaphysics were just a fucking failtrain.

Me
Nietzsche
Heidegger

>>8043156
Foucault
Bourdieu
Nietzsche

Derrida
Foucault
Adorno

>>8043156
Anne Frank
John Green
Steve Jobs

>>8043156
>top three favorite philosophers

>>8049165
ahuehuehue

>>8049435
These 3 guys teach you about philosophy of action. Not about how to sit on your ass, do nothing positive and imagine that you are the ubermensh, your problems is not an actual problems and all that stuff. That's why they are the greatest philosophers.

Guenon
Nietzsche
early Cioran

>>8049155
Don't see why that would bother me at all. You guys sure are obsessed with practicality and correctness.

Was reading Jameson earlier. Don't know how anyone could compete with:

"As we shall see later, in applying this new, albeit always-already-encountered, methodology ('mythodology') to the productions, negative or otherwise, of post-disaccumulative textu(r)al spaces, one must be cautious never to lose sight of the transmetahermanantic - both historical AND inter-subjectival - desubstantiations to which the text-in-itself can act as resembling intermediant."

>>8043170

1. Aristotle
2. David Hume
3. Arthur Schopenhauer

>>8043156
Stirner
Kierkegaard
Spinoza

butler
foucault
deleuze

i cant take any philosopher who doesnt consider systems of power and difference in their base analysis of the generation and propagation of knowledge seriously at this point

>>8043687
This looks like a post from someone who's never read his philosophy. This is what he regards as the correct standpoint for the appreciation of women, taken from his essay "On Women".

"Without women, the beginning of our life would be helpless; the middle, devoid of pleasure; and the end, of consolation."

>>8043156
Me, as I'm the only one who's 100% right.

Me because I'm not four years old and van figure out the world on my own.
Myself because I don't need an authority figure to instruct me ideologically.
Me again because I'm not a dumbass and so don't need people to explain basic facts about the world in extreme detail using fancy words in order to make sense of them.

Aristotle
Hegel
Deleuze

yeah i know, don't ask me why

>>8043156
In this world of post-post-post-POST ironism, is Diogenes now considered reddit-tier?

...Because I still really like him.

>>8043156
Socrates and Nietzsche

when i read five dialogues or zarathustra i feel like they are my friends. kinda sad but whatever

>>8052838
None of Diogenes's writings has survived, you fucking pseud.

L Ron Hubbard
Dr Laura Schlessinger
Myself.

>>8052844
Especially Plato has this feel. Reminds me of chilling with pretentious friends in hs.

>>8052826
Do people tend to pick sides between Kant and Hegel? Or is it essential to carefully read both? It seems like you could spend years of your life on a single work by either of them.

>>8052857
t. Redditor :^)

>>8043156
Sun Tzu
Women
Finntroll

>>8052861
>Do people tend to pick sides between Kant and Hegel? Or is it essential to carefully read both? It seems like you could spend years of your life on a single work by either of them.

Avoid Hegel like the plague. He essentially started the whole "nobody will notice if I just write a bunch of nonsense" trend that leads up to more recent charlatans like Derrida and the incoherent SJWism of the present day.

Kant's writing style was pretty horrific, but he was an actual philosopher with important ideas. After Kant, move on to Schopenhauer.

>>8045723
>>8045744

These guys get it

>>8046253
>ubermensch
>Marvin Hagler
look outside of intellect ya cunt

Alan Watts
Albert Camus
Hermes Trismegistus

>>8053089
I'll try Kant then, thanks

>>8043205
>leibniz
Oh come on at least try to be bait

>>8053354
Lot of sperg of your type in this thread. Interesting.

Terrence McKenna
Anthony Robbins
Rupert Sheldrake, Tommy Vu, and Deepak Chopra tie for third.

Aristotle
Hume
Frege

Living:
Kripke
Parfit
Stalnaker

>>8043170
lol

>>8043196
WE WUZ CRUSADAZ AN SHIET

>>8053089
read hegel for the aesthetics
the slaughter bench of history dude, the zeitgeist

>>8043841
I agree.

Heraclitus
Hegel
Kierkegaard

>>8043156
Donald Trump, Lizzy Mcguire, this kid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUWK_pWrbw

>>8055648
Disagree. We're posting in the analytic tradition, right?

noam chomsky
bernie sanders
john green

Wagner
Heidigger
Nietzsche.

But not Friedrich, Elisabeth Förster.

Augustine
Kant
Schopy