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Is a meme a spook or is a spook a meme?

>> No.7995156

>>7995153
I don't know, but is a meme a meme?

>> No.7995163

a speme is a mook

>> No.7995166

>>7995163
I shot speme all over your mom's face last night

>> No.7995173

>>7995156
But what is a meme?

>> No.7995191

>>7995173
Tis but a fancy of your adolescent mind.

>> No.7995217

spook has become a meme but meme in it self isn't a spook unless you let it spook you.

>> No.7995245
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7995245

A spook might have characteristics of a meme: It's a concept that may spread from people to people.

The idea of spooks itself surely is a meme on /lit/ (see this thread).

A meme hardly drives anyone to make decisions based on it, so a meme will generally not be a spook.
An image macro is a meme but unlikely to become a spook.
However, e.g. the idea giving rise to the manlet meme is a spook for some manlets.

The idea of memes itself is not particularly spooky.

>>7995173
memes are introduced and defined in Richard Dawkings Selfish Gene from 1976.

>> No.7995308

a meme is an idea that is usually a joke spread around through culture/internet

a spook is an idea that has power over the individual stopping him from pursuing his own desires

people use "memes" as a spook when they denounce something a meme in order to disqualify its reputation

>> No.7995430

Memes in the Dawkinsian sense are essentially identical to spooks.

>> No.7995437

>>7995245

Is that tinytrip?

is he still alive?

>> No.7995437,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>7995153
The concept of a spook is a meme, specifically on /lit/. The concept of a meme is a spook. Memes are a subset of spooks.

>> No.7995534

>>7995153
A meme is like a spook but conceptualized by someone who absolutely hates relativism and thinks philosophy is dead but has absolutely no knowledge about relativism or philosophy.

>> No.7995546

>>7995430
I don't think so, Dawkins believes in meme magic, spooks come from your cultural enviroment but can't be said to exist external to an individual subjet.

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7995558

>>7995153
The meme is like the less refined and more ambiguous version of a spook. It's sloppy.

The spook is the idea the captures and holds a person hostage. It grows in their mind and only exists to have the person serve it.

Dawkins was just kind of like "Yeah, these things are there," while Stirner tells you the hard truth about them.

And Dawkins himself is haunted af.

>> No.7995568

>>7995153
either but not both

>> No.7996540

>>7995166
same

>> No.7997426

>>7995437
Yes and I assume so