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What is the most disturbing book you have read?

>> No.7957481

The Room - Hubert Selby, Jr.

>> No.7957484

Hogg

>> No.7957487

Twilight

>> No.7957489

my

>> No.7957499
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The Tunnel

>> No.7957528

Gargoyles by Thomas Bernhard

>> No.7957532

I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream

Not a book desu

>> No.7957537

Honestly the hotel rape scene from Lolita is probably the most disturbing thing I've read to date

>> No.7957556

>>7957460
The Art of Loving, because you realize how truly fucked everything is, and you see what you must change.

>> No.7957559

I once read some old newspapers that had been hard bound.

>> No.7957562

>>7957499
Is it really that disturbing? From what I can tell it's just an angry man's rants. I still plan on reading it someday.

>> No.7957592

>>7957562
Yes, for a variety of reasons.

>> No.7957601

I´m kind of a normie but 120 days of Sodom

>> No.7957603

I thought Beckett's Molloy/Malone Dies/The Unnamable were kind of disturbing... in a funny, thought provoking way.

>> No.7957604

>>7957556
Hmm, I sort-of had the same reaction: I realized I am practically the opposite of what the book calls people to be, it made me consider that I don't know how to love anybody, yet it also gave me hope I can improve

>> No.7957605

>>7957460
Definitely Guts
It is a short story, but it had to be mentioned.

>> No.7957617

>>7957537
>rape

>> No.7957619

>>7957532
the story would have been scarier if Ellison wasn't so stilted and haughty about the whole affair. His personal writings are unbearable.

>>7957537
this

>> No.7957625

>>7957604
Precisely, that means the book was effective for both of us. It was distubring in a very good way.

I think successful Marxist writers must achive that outcome. To make us afraid and feel bad for how we are today, but to see that a better world is within our reach.

The disturbance is not merely towards nihilism, but towards something better. Anxiety is supposed to make himans avoid a threat, or realize something is wrong. Sometimes we need to be disturbed to act rightly. Otherwise we really are just robots.

>> No.7957627

>>7957601
I wouldn't call 120 days of Sodom disturbing. It's too banal for that.
This book essentially consists of rants about religion, philosophical musings about the concept of transgression, and an exhaustive list of strange fetishes. Unless you're a bona fide admirer of the Divine Marquis, it's not worth reading in its entirety.

>> No.7957653

>>7957627
I know it´s trivial because it relays on shock value to be disturbing, however that book gave me the most traumatic mental images of my life. We may have interpreted disturbing, differently

>> No.7957678

The Girl Next Door by Jack Ketchum or Let's Go Play At The Adams'.

>> No.7957679

can I say gravity's rainbow? I felt sad and dirty after reading slothrop's "death" and the poop scene

>> No.7957690

>>7957537
What haunts me is the little tangent has at one point where he imagines getting Lo pregnant once she's gotten too old so that he can have a new generation of nymphet, and do the same again ad infinitum. Reading that was nauseating.

>> No.7957949

The works of Peter Sotos. Check'em out, good stuff.

>> No.7957985

Probably In The Miso Soup by Ryu Murakami

which is also a pretty awful book, tbqh

>> No.7958759

i dont read any spooky stuff, but the book of disquiet was disturbing in that it just depressed the shit out of me. i was in a baaad state of mind for a good while before i snapped out of it.

>> No.7958836
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Pic related. It's enough to make your hair curl.

There's a scene where the special policemen run metal wire through holes in a bunch of prisoners cheeks, then write some offensive word on their backs with chalk, then encourage the townspeople to whip the prisoners until the chalk is gone. Then they murder them all.

It's supposedly all based on the techniques used by the Koevoet and the Defence Force in South Africa. I know the wire thing was used by the French in Indochina. I almost wanted a trigger warning for fucks sake.

DFW assigned it in one of his english classes at that school he taught at.

>> No.7958859

>>7957949
sounds fun desu

>> No.7958860
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7958860

Pierre, by Herman Melville.

At least that's the only answer that hasn't already been given in the thread.

>> No.7959081

>>7958759
>Probably In The Miso Soup by Ryu Murakami
>which is also a pretty awful book, tbqh
that one looks like shit to me.

>> No.7959130

>>7957460
Stoner

>> No.7959132

>>7957532
This is right on up there. The mood it creates is super heavy and stuck with me for days.

>> No.7959164

>>7957460
I once read a book about Nazis from Hell or something similar. If anyone has any idea what I'm talking about the main idea of the book was that people were.....Nazis.....who volunteered to be subject to horrible torture and every other line was something ridiculous and only the main character saw a problem with this. I am pretty sure giant insects were involved.

>> No.7959186

There's a part in It where It takes the form of Dracula but with razors for teeth and he bites down hard enough that the razors cut his gums into bloody chunks. Read that shit like 8 years ago, and it's still gross to me. Even after having gotten into /b/ gore threads that same year, and having seen footage of crazy shit

>> No.7959256

>>7957460
Haven't read it personally but I've heard great things about Eden Eden Eden by Pierre Guyotat. Can't seem to find an ebook though.

>> No.7959297

>>7959256
http://docslide.us/documents/guyotat-pierre-eden-eden-eden-cut.html

Best I could find. Looks tedious.

>> No.7959320

>>7957556
>The Art of Loving
Shitty book devoured by housewives in the 50/60s. Lmao reading this in 2000+

>> No.7959327

>>7959297
I liked it. I did read the pdf you posted.

>> No.7959334

>>7959297
Wow, how'd you find it? Yer a wizard. Thanks!

>> No.7959342

Mr. Murder by Dean Koontz.

Im convinced he's a closet child rapist.
He emulates the mind of a child so well.
And the way he takes more time writing alfies disturbing rape/murder scenes than he should.

>> No.7959364

>>7959256
>>7959297
>>7959334

Why are some books so hard to find a copy of? If they're well known and popular enough to get talked about on /lit/ you'd think there would be enough demand for at least an ebook. /lit/ reads some obscure books but they can't be that obscure.

>> No.7959386

>>7957460
I can't say, it's literally too disturbing to think about.

>> No.7959410

The Maimed by Hermann Ungar
Story of the Eye by Georges Bataille

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7959708

Never read it but seems interesting.

>> No.7959711

>>7959586
that's a nice cover, mind if i save it?

>> No.7959716

>>7959711
It's all yours my friend :)

>> No.7959794

>>7959320
Have you read it? If not you're the perfect close kinded anti intellectual.

>> No.7959802

diary

>> No.7959987

>>7959364
I have a whole list of books which are totally not obscure that I've been searching for years (as e-books). Thanks to various kind anons and sharethreads my list has little by little shrunk. Still, the bulk of it is there.

>> No.7959997

Perfume - Patrick Süskind

>> No.7959999

>>7959081
I don't think your post makes sense, and you quoted the wrong post too

>> No.7960001

>>7957605

Nah that's just edgy bullshit

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>>7959586
In the thumbnail it looks like an animu girl.

>> No.7960178

>>7957949
You tryin' to get people into trouble, anon?

>> No.7960180

>>7957985
> which is also a pretty awful book

I politely disagree. It's pulpy but it's not awful.

>> No.7960199

Grotesque - Natsuo Kirino
Apparently a few things were changed for the translation, but I can't imagine it amounted to very much.

>> No.7960228

>>7957605
Guts is overrated and mainstream.

>> No.7960239

>>7957679
> the castration

>> No.7961396

Hi

>> No.7961460

>>7960239
this, holy shit, it came out of nowhere in the middle of the funny hijinks and it horrified me

>> No.7961468

It's nonfiction but Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder properly rustled me, excellent book but fuck was it grim at times.

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7961492

it disturbs me that anyone could actually take this dribble seriously

>> No.7961503

>>7961492
You have typed /r/cuckold wrong in your url.

>> No.7961537

>>7957690
damn i forgot about that
very disturbing idea

>> No.7961543

>>7961492

poor bait, i'm reading through the pilgrims progress at the moment and i have to look up a few verses each page, I'm surprised at how prolific most of them are, especially considering how long ago it was writ.

>> No.7961563

>>7961492
It disturbs me more that it could actually be true.

>> No.7961715

>>7957532
Reddit answer, pseud detected

>> No.7961723

>>7957537
Aside from the age how was it in any way non-consensual?

>> No.7961757

>>7961723
>Besides how it was non-consenual how was it non-consenual?
Is pedophilia really this normalized on 4chan?

>> No.7961832

>>7957532
The prose is pretty hard to stomach, I'll give you that.

>> No.7961896

>>7958836
Good read. Very through-provoking.

>> No.7961918

>>7961757
You must be new here.

>> No.7961939

>>7957460
the consumer by gira

you can find a copy online

>> No.7962074

>>7958860

i agree with this

>> No.7962080

>>7957489
diary

>> No.7962209

>>7961543
>prolific
I'm trying to figure out what you meant here but I'm struggling dude

>> No.7962226

Cows

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>>7959999

>> No.7962360

>>7957603
Disturbing content maybe but definitely not disturbing to read, at least for me.

One thing that really disturbed me was the rhinoplasty scene in V. Only time I've gotten nauseous from a description of something. Haven't read any of Pynchons other work yet and apparently some things might surpass it.

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>>7959999

>> No.7962389

Closer by Dennis Cooper, or really anything by Dennis Cooper.

>> No.7962450

>>7962360
>the rhinoplasty scene in V.

i didnt get nauseated from it but i could feel a tickling sensation on my nose during that scene, like when you bring a sharpened pencil tip very close to your nose without it touching.

>> No.7962480

>>7961723
That makes it rape asshole.

>> No.7962498

>>7961563
This.
>the universe and everything therein could possibly be governed by a being so terrible it cannot even be seen or heard directly by mortal man
>the being instead communicates using animals covered in eyeballs and with wings of fire to explain His machinations to mankind
>the being came to earth as a human to kill himself to prove a point about how great He is
>if you don't follow His human form's life to a T you will get assfucked by a giant dragon that will come at the End of Days

>> No.7962506

>>7957690
>Youngfags who never have watched Chinatown.

Amatuers

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>>7961492

>> No.7962522

>>7962498

a thing that is cruel cannot be God you stupid fucking fag

>when will this atheism meme end?

>> No.7962525

>>7962522
In your dreams, bitch boy.

>> No.7962536

>>7961723
statutory rape is still rape fampai

>> No.7962537

>>7962525

back to /reddit/

>> No.7962541

>>7962525
Go back to /pol/ - you illiterate cockknocker.

>> No.7962546

>>7957537
Hello tumblr

>> No.7962567

>>7962536
>legal definitions being relevant outside of a courtroom
What's it like being autistic?

>> No.7962583

>>7962537
>>7962541
>>7962546
>tumblr, reddit and /pol/ one after the other
Pottery

>> No.7962589

>>7962583

>meme magic wasn't a meme

>> No.7962595
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>>7962522
That's what the Egyptian king rationalized before his first born child was murdered by god.

>> No.7962599

>>7962498
And the best part:
>people think that this being is benevolent and moral in a sense that is not only comprehensible but comforting to them because they refuse to face his true nature out of fear of how he might react

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>>7962522
Didn't the Pharaoh like literally say exactly that before God murdered his son and everyone else?

>I haven't read the book, I just believe it's true on faith

Your taking this faith thing to all new levels,

>> No.7963117

>>7962536
Pretty absurd to pretend like a legal definition has anything to do with consent, you obviously didn't read the book if you don't think she was old enough to have formed the concept of sexual consent.

>> No.7963225

>>7957460
Child of God made me feel psychologically filthy while I read it. It's cliched to say, but I wanted to take a shower after I finished it.

Two parts really got to me. The first was when McCarthy described the child of one of his victims to-be, which was obviously retarded in some way, as a 'primate'. It put into light how removed and devolved this part of the world is when they regard this kid as an animal.

Later, there's this chapter in which the process for smelting a hatchet (or something along those lines) is described in great detail, and the man doing it asks Lester if he thinks that he could repeat it, to which Lester replies 'Do what?'- and the chapter ends. It perfectly demonstrated how detached Lester's mind is from the present and the world around him. He was probably fantasising about his next victim, or something equally depraved.

>> No.7964447

Lol

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>> No.7964715

Voices from Chernobyl was pretty gruesome.
>tfw A Solitary Human Voice

>> No.7964720

>>7962080
desu

>> No.7964803

The scene in Gravity's Rainbow where that old lady kept feeding Slothrop candies was pretty unnerving.

>> No.7966305

Ufoludkydoysoywotsotstisktkykydyxlydpydldldlydoyslydlyfufuglihlvjvhxkhxkta

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>> No.7966361

>>7964803
>scene
>>>/tv/

You mean "passage." "Excerpt" works, too.

>> No.7966371

>>7957484
yup

not sure i'd want to find anything that beats this.


well... maybe.

>> No.7966379

The Pillowman, which is technically a play but which is gruesome and psychologically draining

I honestly find Kafka's short stories so almost logical but not quite that they unnerve me somewhat. It's like loosing a word on the tip of your tongue or getting close to meaning only to have it ripped away, i know he's entry-level but In the Penal Colony is a good and accessible indication

>> No.7966522

>>7966361
Dumbass.

>> No.7967417

>>7962567
>Maybe there's a reason for the legal definition to be the way it is
>Maybe, considering the legal definition of rape concerns non-consensual intercourse and children are considered to be unable to make certain decisions, there is a logic that says that statutory rape is rape
But no, go ahead making absolute statements and feeling cool and being above the law, Raskolnikov.

>> No.7967424

>>7957460
that one where the guy gets kidnapped by aliens an they just skin him alive, it's graphic for everything. It somehow manages avoiding being too edgy though.

>> No.7967450

>>7964803
What are you talking about? That was hilarious, especially if you're a britbong and you're aware how absurd traditional English sweets are to the rest of the world.

>> No.7967461

>>7957487
LOL. underrated post.

>> No.7968215

>>7957487
Heh

>> No.7968245

>>7967461
>>7968215
samefag bumping dickybird

>> No.7968426

>>7961723
HE FUCKING DRUGS HER

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>>7968245
Yeah go fuck yourself

>> No.7968494

>>7957627
>>7957653

He didn't write it for shock value, he was probably actually into all of that shit, he was in prison for sex crimes when he wrote it, which is almost comically absurd

It is more sexual than cognitive, it is mostly tales of abusing the kids or of the prostitutes telling about times they did weird shit with clients when they were younger, the "there is no god, we can do whatever we want" was kind of an afterthought that honestly seemed like de Sade threw in there when he was horny and sexually frustrated

That was my take of it at least, I skimmed through it, the final part that is only an outline was entirely intended to be erotic, with the finale a very drawn out rape/torture scene of some young girl.

It is not a doctrine of philosophy, it is smut. He doesn't intend for you to think, he intends for you to jerk off. That's my take.

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>>7968433

>> No.7968507

Nicholas Sparks, literally cancer

>> No.7968539
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This one left me dazed for weeks

>> No.7968569

>>7961492
All edginess aside, the Old Testament is one of the more disturbing books I've read. Once you get to Judges, it's hundreds of pages of the Jews pillaging and destroying various towns, killing and/or enslaving all of their inhabitants. A lot of the verses are weirdly specific about numbers too, so you'll read that the Jews killed 12,450 people, including women and children. Couple this with the fact that God orders the killings and the verses appear to laud the violence, and it creates an unsettling effect.

>> No.7968728

>>7968569
You're fucking retarded.

>> No.7969567

>>7967450
Just how bizarre and encumbersome it was, felt like a literal nightmare.

>> No.7969587

>>7957605
>reddit

>> No.7969604

>>7962255
Underrated

>> No.7969767

>>7957460
How the fuck has no one mentioned 100 Days of Sodom? Marquis De Sade, original sadist. Jesus Christ that book made me want to die.

>> No.7969813

>>7968569
Canaanites and the surrounding peoples were dogs desu

>> No.7969819

>>7968507
epic bro!! 1 upvote for you!! youre really fitting in, here!!

>> No.7969822

>>7957601
>>7969767
Lrn 3 reed

>> No.7969921

>>7968569
Then there's the part where one of the Israelite tribes gets in a civil war with every other tribe but one, so the one tribe that refuses to fight has all of it's men killed and 400 virgins from the tribe brought to the ones that fought in the war to repopulate

also the civil war starts because everyone in a town tries to rape some travelling people

>> No.7970049

>>7966379
What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.7970074

>>7968426
What? No that never happened. He'd planned to, tried making a potion to drug the mom and Dolores so he could have his way, but he never got right formula and also couldn't find the right opportunity.

I don't think you actually read the book.

>> No.7970076

>>7957592
explain them please