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Are you living in bad faith, /lit/?

>> No.7956073

So it's Protestantism?

>> No.7956079
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>>7956073
Errr... no. It's Existentialism!

>> No.7956081

>>7956079
Oh

>> No.7956085
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>>7956068
>>7956079

I wonder what sartre would have to say to a starving african child born in abject poverty.

>> No.7956109

i see everything that's already happened as having been inevitable but idk how another perspective is possible

>> No.7956120

>>7956109
thats dumb as fuck

>> No.7956133

>>7956085
you have zero reading comprehension beyond the """"""obvious"""""""

>> No.7956137

>>7956085
He would ask what the African kid does internally. When he isn't compulsed to do something, does he act according to an image in his head? Or does he act freely?

Although he has less freedom of action than a basement dweller, he still has some degree of freedom and is responsible for that.

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>>7956085
>Bonjour, je m'appelle Jean-Paul. Comment appelez-vous?

>> No.7956151
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>Sartre

Heidegger bodied this fool years ago.

>> No.7956173

>>7956151
How so?

>> No.7956223
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>>7956133
maybe. enlighten me on what non-obvious thing I missed? since you're clearly the one with amazing reading comprehension skills here.
>>7956137
sartre stresses on the fact that man and that man alone is entirely responsible for himself.
>"he encounters the world and chooses himself"
moreover, he believes that "existential angst" is borne from a man's realization that in choosing himself he is choosing how mankind ought to be because the choices we make are necessarily the ones we think are best for us and the ones which we value most.

now this is some grade A bullshit in my opinion. His entire philosophy is predicated on the premise that a man alone is responsible for himself and that there is no pre-existing blueprint. He most certainly would blame the african child for his condition and if you claim his freedom is limited he would slap you and tell you that you and that child are acting in "bad faith". Also, sure, there is no pre-existing ethical blueprint but to claim that a human does not is laughable.

He also seems to be extremely naive because he seems to have presumed that our choices are OUR choices and we have absolute freedom in choosing. That the environment and conditions we grew up in somehow have no deterministic influence in now we act. That our actions and choices are completely unentangled with our lives. Literally countless sociology studies would prove that bullshit although we only need one.

How ANYONE takes sartre seriously is seriously fucking beyond me.

>> No.7956243

>>7956223
I think your ability to reflect on your influences and discuss them at this level of abstraction proves Sartre essentially correct.

>> No.7956254

>>7956243
>implying that external influence can be escaped simply through self-reflection at any level of abstraction.

no. my reflections are influenced by what i have been influenced by and the actions borne from those reflections are influenced by everything before it.

>> No.7956261

>>7956254
You're acting in bad faith.

>> No.7956294

>>7956261

fuck of sartre. if we're completely free then how come you chose to be such a retarded pleb hack?

>> No.7956305

>>7956294
He was being freely and consciously ironic.

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>>7956305
I mean, seriously, look at the guy. >>7956079
>>7956141

>> No.7956308

>>7956068
In many cases the exercise of Freedom that would break us off from Bad Faith is suicide. I dare say a little bad faith isn't unhealthy. Breaking from the contextual imposes on Freedom, freedom imposes on freedom, good faith on bad, etc.

>> No.7956310

>>7956305
the classic defense of every idiot