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7920647 No.7920647 [Reply] [Original]

what's a good dystopian novel that focus on social relations more than sci-fi cliches?

Something like a combination of Huxley and Orwell smashed together to create a nightmare society of abject hedonism, abject relativism and implicit totalitarianism

>> No.7920654

Zyklon Ben: The Tumultuous Life Story of Ben Garrison

>> No.7920656

I'd ask in the science fiction thread.

Polite sage

>> No.7920660

>>7920647
The Dispossessed.

>> No.7920663

>>7920660
>The Dispossessed.

can u give a quick synopsis? heard of it but never read it

>>7920656

not really interested in sci-fi cliches

>> No.7920665

>>7920647
the turner diaries

>> No.7920682

>shitty and sad attempt at bashing leftist uprisal
>includes a poster saying 'stop white oppression'

you wot mate.

>> No.7920689

>>7920682

do you enjoy reading dystopian novels? can u recommend one? Just curious.

>you wot m8

try to infer the context, i think you'll figure out the meaning and resolve your own confusion

>> No.7920692

>>7920660
>Ursula K. Le Guin

steer clear of that author, not very good at all

>> No.7920694

>>7920663
>can u give a quick synopsis? heard of it but never read it

The Dispossessed is a 1974 utopian science fiction novel by Ursula K. Le Guin, set in the same fictional universe as that of The Left Hand of Darkness (the Hainish Cycle). The book won the Nebula Award for Best Novel in 1974, won both the Hugo and Locus Awards in 1975, and received a nomination for the John W. Campbell Memorial Award in 1975. It achieved a degree of literary recognition unusual for science fiction works due to its exploration of many ideas and themes, including anarchism and revolutionary societies, capitalism, individualism and collectivism, and the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis.

Shevek, a brilliant physicist, decides to take action. He will seek answers, question the unquestionable, and attempt to tear down the walls of hatred that have isolated his planet of anarchists from the rest of the civilized universe. To do this dangerous task will mean giving up his family and possibly his life. Shevek must make the unprecedented journey to the utopian mother planet, Anarres, to challenge the complex structures of life and living, and ignite the fires of change.

The story of The Dispossessed is set on Anarres and Urras, the twin inhabited worlds of Tau Ceti. Urras is divided into several states and dominated by the two largest ones, which are rivals. In a clear allusion to the United States (represented by A-Io) and the Soviet Union (represented by Thu), one has a capitalist economy and patriarchal system and the other is an authoritarian system that claims to rule in the name of the proletariat. Further developing the analogy, there are oppositional left-wing parties in A-Io, one of which is closely linked to the rival society Thu, as were communist parties in the US and other Western countries at the time the story was written. Other parties represent various dissident visions of socialism. Where the situation differs from that of 20th century Earth is the existence of the anarcho-syndicalist world Anarres, representing a third ideological alternative - however, its influence is weakened by most Odonians having agreed generations ago to go into exile on a different world and cut themselves off. There are still some Odonians in A-Io, who eventually contact Shevek with a note chiding him for betraying his beliefs by working at the university and accepting the government's hospitality. Beyond that, there is a third major, though underdeveloped, area called Benbili — when a revolution supported by Thu breaks out there, A-Io invades, generating a proxy war. Thus, Benbili comes to represent Southeast Asia, an allusion to the Vietnam War. Although there are a wide variety of parties in A-Io, there are no political parties on Anarres. An Odonian orthodoxy prevails without any overt enforcement or oppression, although free thinkers who go too far can end up in psychiatric institutions, as happens with Shevek's childhood friend, Tirin.

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>>7920647
There are none, because the sum of /pol/ boogeymen is essentially a rambling bunch of fucking nonsense. Put on to paper as a setting which the reader is meant to take seriously, it would appear as nothing but incoherent conspiracist bullshit. Academia realizes that these "threats" are essentially null and every stereotype associated can be rationally disproved. Your ideology was sifted out of the dialectal whole centuries ago. The educated class has no time to listen to your death rattle.

>> No.7920881

>>7920647
nah

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>>7920647
>>7920881

The Status Civilization.

Guy gets his memories wiped and sent to a prison planet where everyone worships evil, is greedy, hedonistic and the only way to gain status is to be as debauched and degenerate as possible. No one reproduces anymore, they just fuck for fun and money. Killing people even earns you credit.

He tries to escape to earth, since morality still exists there, but when he returns well...earth is even more fucked up

>> No.7920930

>>7920880
>this whole post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dohJYIXpR7A

>> No.7920953

>>7920880
>Your ideology was sifted out of the dialectal whole centuries ago. The educated class has no time to listen to your death rattle.
Well stated, the march of progress will go in and there's nothing you fascists can do about it.
There will be no right wing uprising, there will be no race war, stay angry.
>>7920930
>literal anti-intellectualism

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>>7920930
Oh hey, it's that guy in those really intelligent Prager U videos.

>> No.7920967

>>7920647
where i can find more of those kind of pics?

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>>7920967

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>>7920975

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>>7920967

>> No.7921085

>>7920647
Fahrenheit 451 kinda

>>7920689
Could you elaborate?

>> No.7921102

>>7921085
>Could you elaborate?

about what? what confuses you about the sign?

>> No.7921105

>>7921102
Fuck wrong poster.
Ignore me mate

>> No.7921433

>>7921105

np

>> No.7921444

>>7920647
That second sentence though. Damn dude. How pretentious can one person be?

>> No.7921448

>>7920647
Ubik by PKD
It's really good too.

>> No.7921525

>>7921448

Ubik is so weird

>> No.7921770

>>7920692
not sure if you're just trying to troll, but she was pretty good before she got all preachy, and 'the dispossessed' is goat, i mean she won a hugo for it, although pkd's 'flow my tears' and priest's 'the inside-out world' where nominated, too, that year.

>> No.7921775

>>7920967
on /pol/, it's a board entirely devoted to nazi maymays