/lit/ - Literature

/v/ dosent read

>>7915008
They should, they might get past babby's first existential crisis

>>7915008
yes the do, they read shitty game adaptations and dollar store fantasy, thought.

/g/ doesn't read anything but the sales listings on newegg and amazon. vapid consumerwhore board.

/mu/, /b/, /fit/, /co/, /mlp/ doesnt read too

>>7915061
>you need to read to have a reading list
If that was true 99% of /lit/ wouldn't have reading lists

>>7915053

What a bunch of try hards. No wonder they are all still virgins.

Surprised The Idea Factory isn't on there. It was not-so-required reading before my first year of college. I never read it, might eventually though.

>>7915071

Based on these descriptions, I still think /fit/ doesn't read.

>>7915077
Not really, they just
>read for plot

>>7915061
>Implying every /fit/izen doesn't have a heavily read copy of starting strength

>>7915080

>he read starting strength instead of practical programming for strength, which is a far superior book yet written by the same authors

>>7915102
>he doesn't just go out into the quarry and lift rocks

Biz should make a sticky and edit out some books because although I haven't read all of them, most of them seem like crap.

>>7915163
Also can anyone tell me why The Idiot is on that list?

>>7915164
I haven't read it, but the idiot is about a guy who everyone use as their advantage. Probably something about not letting people use you as a doormat.

>>7915152

>he doesn't understand that lifting rocks is an inferior method to incremental increase with a barbell

You would need to constantly find new rocks as the more you lift and the stronger you get, the more weight you will need to lift to keep progressing.

Finding 250kg rocks is implausible, and even if you did find one, it would be impractical to lift it due to the shape it'd have.

>>7915174
Yes it would be quite hard to find rocks in a quarry. What was I thinking.

>>7915174
>he didn't start with carrying a calf each day on his back as it grew over the years.

>>7915053
well, there's a pattern I didn't know I had in my tastes

>>7915190
Nothing wrong with liking depressing literature, anon.

>>7915182

Eventually you will find a rock that you won'the be able to lift simply due it's dimensions. Even if you could lift its equivalent in weight with a barbell.

You're not going to squat, deadlift, or a bench a rock of any significant weight. You'd be lifting rocks in an inefficient manner and most of the important muscles will not be trained. Your progress will stagnate in no time and the person using a barbell will surpass you.

Don't be dumb.

>>7915197
At that point why would you need to lift more? If you can lift all but the heaviest rock in the quarry you're certainly strong enough. Anything else is just masturbation.

>>7915061
Are you blind? Half this board is from /mu/.

>>7915217

That's entirely subjective. Compared to someone training with barbells you'll be a weakling.

And you can't deadlift, squat, bench press, power clean, snatch, and clean and jerk rocks. Not in any meaningful way.

Stay mad, non lifting faggot.

>>7915217
>>7915197
This is some scintillating discussion lads

>>7915163
>The Black Swan

>>7915232
Look man masturbation is fun, but you've gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere.

>>7915217

It isn't sufficient because it's an inferior method. Do you still read scrolls instead of books and write on century old paper with an ink and quill?

>>7915254

Reaching a high physical level in your youth through training is something the likes of Socrates and Epictetus praised.

>>7915254
You could argue anything is just masturbation.

Shitposting is masturbation.

Reading is masturbation.

Philosophy is masturbation.

Sex is masturbation.

Wanking is masturbation.

>>7915278
And? That doesn't mean you need to go to the level you're talking about.

>>7915281
Yes. That's why it's good to seek the golden mean between complete abstinence and total indulgence.

>>7915284
>And? That doesn't mean you need to go to the level you're talking about.

Says who? I don't do anything half assed. Maybe you do things friviously. If I commit myself to something, I do it to the best of my ability.

>>7915284
This is the dumbest fucking conversation. Both of you shut up with your stupid hypothetical rock-lifting.

God damn /lit/, is this really what we've come to?

>>7915284
>Yes. That's why it's good to seek the golden mean between complete abstinence and total indulgence

Then enjoy never achieving anything above average.

>>7915299
>>7915302
Enjoy never knowing the taste of arete

>>7915300
Fuck off, cunt

>>7915307

Found the lazy shit that does things half assed.

>>7915307
>arete
>posts on 4chan

>>7915300

It's not theoretical. If lifting rocks was a superior training method, then athletes of everytype would be lifting rocks, not barbells.

>>7915307

>being lazy and not doing your best is moral virtue

Settle down there philosidorkus.

>>7915225
and half this board doesn't read.

>>7915318
>>7915325
>>7915330
>all this salt with such little effort on my part
Arete in shitposting

>>7915071
better than /lit/'s reading list, jej

>>7915158
>the millionaire next door
>"more than one million copies sold!"

>>7914990
>The Art of Computer Programming

no-one on /g/ has ever read that shit, you need turbo-autism

is the /g/ list legit or just memes?

>>7915508
It's pretty solid actually. With the exception of TAoCP.

>>7915343
>he thinks arete means excellency

>>7915053
my bookshelf desu

>>7915158
>>7915163

where's trump

>>7915158
>>7915163
you had one job, /biz/

>>7915518
how come?

>>7915537
have you even read those?

>>7915519
>he thinks it doesn't

>>7915550
No man could ever hope to read the sum total of human knowledge.

>>7915558
give me the summary

>>7915571
I can't summarize. Those two books contain all of human knowledge.

>>7914990
Here is /pol/'s

>>7915582
I'm ashamed to say I've read some of those. I'm unashamed to say they were complete garbage. The Fountainhead was truly Ayn Rand's only good novel.

>>7915582
Edgy.

>>7915284
You're both dumb as a bag of rocks.

Go die in a rockslide.

>>7915604
How fucking dare you. My father died in a rockslide. I've spent my entire life training in that quarry so I'll never face the same fate he did.

>>7915604

What did I say that's dumb? Or are you projecting again?

>>7915601
There is some good in it. At least as far as beginner to mid tier reading
>Politics of Aristotle
>Il Principe
>Brave New World
>Leviathan
>Utopia
>Siddartha

>>7915578
I believe in you anon, try your best!

>>7915302
>Finding the mesotes means averageness
Ari would be proud. Wow what a meathead you are please go back to fit.

>>7915793
When did I imply it's a direct average? Golden mean =/= average mean of two points. Golden mean is about finding the right point between the two extremes as determined by reason, the situation, one's character, etc. But go ahead and keep attacking that strawman.

>>7915053
I don't get why stoner is on there at all. Is it because they relate to Lomax and his protege?

>>7915601
There are some great books on that list, and some are bad but still worth reading. There still is a great deal of a solute garbage on it too.

>>7915071
Nice list. Maybe I should head over to fit

If you can lift the heaviest rock in the quarry then you're done, that's the definition of functional strength. Anything beyond that is narcisism and wankery

>>7914990
>C
Lol fucking plebs

>>7915967

>competing in sports is wankerry

>>7916239
>you're a professional lifter
>you're a professional athlete

>>7915008
/v/-goer here. I'd say that the essential /v/ books are:
>Tolkien
>Percy Jackson
>Chronicles of Narnia
>Scott Pilgrim
>Nintendo Power

Where's /sci/'s chart of approved sci-fi?

>>7916312

>you have to be professional to compete in sports

>>7915967

Looks like we've got ourselves a jealous fatty that's insecure around men that are stronger and more muscular than him. Aww, cute.

>>7916312

P.s

If people took your attitude, nobody would become professional as you're arguing for people to give up and never reach their full potential.

Think before you type.

>>7916439
Just lift rocks in the quarry man

>>7915271
Bill Gray doesn't use word processors.

>>7916456

Start reading scrolls and writing in scrolls with ink and a quill.

>>7915582
/pol/ here, which one of those will help me last longer than 3 seconds?

>>7916480
I can't because they don't publish in scrolls and I don't write.

If you're not working with cuneiform tablets, you might as well jump off a cliff as far as I'm concerned.

>>7916496

Scrolls and ink and a quill is enough. Everything else is just wankerry.

>>7916528
But anon I don't write and I physically cannot purchase scrolls. I must regretfully make do with such horrid masturbation.

>>7915582
Predictably edgy.

>>7915053
This is a /lit/ user who occasionally browses r9k to vent about how stupid women are. Actual Robots don't read, they're like a gross mix between /v/, /mlp/ and /pol/

>>7916378
Not a /sci/-goer but Greg Egan's books are pretty good hard sci-fi. Of course the usual, Arthur C Clarke, Asimov, Poul Anderson, etc are all well worth a go too.

>>7915582
You would never catch a single /pol/ poster reading 80% of those in public. They talk a big game, but they know all their ideas are indefensible, not to mention detestable, trash.

/x/ related.

>>7915601
Well like that anon >>7915662 said , some of them are actually pretty decend. I whould recommend animal farm,The art f war, the leviatan, and especially brave new world when it comes to books that are good literature. However from an political vievpoint you might try works by marks and Mein Kampf.

>>7916639
Its true most of them haven even read Mein Kampf. But its important to read stuff like this because its important to know your enemys.
So regardless of your political standpoint you should always bother different beliefs and there are certain works that just had to big of an impact to be ignored, regardless of their quality.

>>7916639
I'm not exactly your average /pol/ poster but I have no problem reading reactionary stuff in public and discussing it with people. I just do it tactfully.

>>7916850
I'm greatly upset that Campbell, Eco, Jung, Nietzsche and Joyce are in this list.

What's /tv/ reading list?

>>7916614
That list was made on /r9k/ years ago. I remember the threads.

>>7916956
This and only this.

>>7916930
why?

>>7916930
green pill is mostly based on Robert Anton Wilson and he mention them in a lot of his books. still why Lovecraft, and Kafka are not on this list I have no idea.

>>7917421

>>7916916
>especially brave new world when it comes to books that are good literature
Jesus FUCKING Christ.

>>7915158
"Thinking Fast and Slow" is really good. My roommate is reading it right now and has shared sections with me. It's fantastic.

>>7915582
>there are still institutions which take george orwell seriously
fuck

>>7917488
what's it about?

>>7917533
Problem solving in different ways. Pretty much the title. The idea is that there are two modes of thinking of things, your first. fast thought, then your secondary, slower, analysis. I want him to finish it so I can get my hands on it.

/pol/ and /fit/ both have better guides than /lit/

>>7915046
this

>>7916366
you have shit taste.

And anyway a /v/ list is easy, just do games based off books and mangas and a little bit more
>LOTR
>Roadside picnic
>The Last Wish
>Metro 2033
>The divine Comedy
>Berserk
>The Iliad?
>Atlas Shrugged
>Dracula
>Call of Cthulu
>Dune
>The Man in the High Castle
>I Have no Mouth and Must Scream

Not that /v/ reads or anything, they're kinda stupid like /r9k/ now.

>>7915558
I also remember this classic Reddit post.

>>7918071
Why aren't I getting any upvotes friend?

>>7916850
>Foucault's pendulum

Did any of those tulpa-fuckers actually read it? I'm guessing no.

>>7915071

An actual /fit/ list would contain Marcus Aurelius, Dale Carnegie and Eckhart Tolle.

>>7916930
>Jung, Nietzsche
how are they not related

>>7916987
did they adapt the plane scene

>>7914990
Hackers and Masters Of Doom and especially Masters require little to no programming knowledge to be understood.
But great books, yeah.

>>7915158
>>7915163

>mfw no donald trump

>>7916956
/tv/ is too fucking lazy but should have society of the spectacle, simulacra & simulation, some mcluhan, paglia, and of course zizek

>>7917457
>fiction: the stars my destiantion
wait, what?

>>7915163
most of these are shitty self-help books. Don't waste your time on these unless they're acclaimed classics.

>>7914990
>The C Programming Language
The only reason to read this is for it's historical value. There are better books out there.
>>7918584
this.
>>7916930
Jung was a /x/phile.
>>7917490
What's wrong with Orwell? 1984 and Animal Farm were fun reads.

>>7917490
What the fuck are you talking about faggot ?

>>7915071
stop posting that meditations translation please

>>7916551
source for this pic?

>>7919674

>>7919683
/trv/

>>7919695

>>7917490
What? Even if you disagree with them, Homage to Catalonia, 1984, and Animal Farm are excellent reads.

>>7919411
It doesn't teach modern best practices, but it's a good introduction to the elements of C and Kernighan has a great writing/teaching style

>>7915053
/r9k/ only reads forums and bad manga.

>>7919411
name some better books for C than faggot

>>7919701
I'm kinda surprised The Invisibles isn't on that list

>>7919840
It is.

>>7919701
>Maus

Scalped from /his/

>>7920040

If I read this will I understand the autistic "Anglo scum" memes?

>>7915582
>The Kingdom of God is within you - Leo Tolstoy

Has anyone read this?

/his/'s official reading guide

>>7920353
>that last line

>>7920353
Almost subtle bait, 6/10 for effort.

/v/ reading guide

Plato's The Republic
Aristotle's Politics
Thomas Hobbe's Leviathan
Edmund Burke's Reflections on the Revolution in France
Michael Young's The Rise of Meritocracy
B. F. Skinner's Walden Two
Frank Herbert's Dune
Frank Herbert's Messiah of Dune
Herman Melville's Moby-Dick
Robert A. Heinlein's Starship Troopers
Bob Chipman's SMB3 Brick by Brick
Frank Herbert's Children of Dune
Strugatsky Brothers' Roadside Picnic
Isaac Asimov's Foundation Trilogy
Suzanne Collin's The Hunger Games
Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun
Ernst Junger's The Glass Bees
John Brunner's Stand on Zanzibar

>>7920353
I was there for this thread and the last line, maybe the last two are absolutely lies and memes. One of the first things discussed when /his/ was made was a reading list.

>>7915163
Black Swan is GOAT for me
Where's Art of the Deal?

>>7920353
>4chan.com

>>7920353
>guns germs and steel
How can a board pretending at intellectualism push a book that's been so thoroughly debunked, and laughed offstage?

>>7920549
What happened - did David Duke give it a bad review?

>>7915857
Probably fembots relating to Stoner's wife.

>>7920549
It's a bait image you dip. Gibbon, Shirer, Dawkins, holohoax literature and that shit edition of the gallic wars should have tipped you off.

>>7920560
If he wanted to contest racial neural differences, then he should have just done psych research on people, rather than trying to attack the concept from a roundabout way.

The reason he didn't do this is because the research frequently points towards great, non-cultural differences.

>>7920607
You clearly haven't read the book.

>>7918837
Nietzsche is about freeing oneself from the rules and modes of the past, effectively smashing the idols of our forefathers while Jung is about building off of them as a reflection of the collective human psyche? Also Nietzsche tends towards individualism while Jung takes a more collective minded aspect of humanity. They're pretty diametrically opposed.

>>7919411
Jung had supernatural leanings, certainly. He delved into the paranormal quite a few times (collective unconscious, synchronicity, etc) but he wasn't full blown /x/ like the other schlock on this list.

>>7919701
I actually reread All Star Superman recently. The page with Regan actually made me cry.

>>7915053
I just found out I'm r9k tier

>>7920736
kys famiglia

>>7915008
visual novels are literature!

>>7915053
Honestly, /r9k/ doesn't in any way have the ability to understand any of these texts. They'd take notes as proof that life is hopeless and you can't do anything about it if you're not already successful (which they already think).

They're in no way in the mindset to understand of this stuff properly.


Also, what >>7916614 said. Actual robots are the worst of 4chan, they don't really do anything of any merit, which includes reading.

>>7915102
>practical programming is better than starting strength

They're completely different texts, with completely different purposes. One's going into an insane amount of details on a few specific lifts that form the basis of any good strength program, while the other is designed to allow you to program your own routine, which is pointless for a beginner anyway, seeing as they all benefit most from the same shit.

>>7915071
Implying fit reads

>>7917457
>william lane craig

>>7921061
What's wrong with Craig? He's a well-regarded theologian.

>>7914990

Any /g/ list that doesn't include Kidder's "Soul of a New Machine" is lacking.

>>7921067
He's terrible. But even with that aside, his message is completely contradictory to several of the best books on there.

>>7915163
>without order