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7870818 No.7870818 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts on this book

>> No.7870824

I honestly hope he wins, not even memeing.

>> No.7870826

>>7870818
It's a #1 National Bestseller by a #1 national best-seller.
What could possibly go wrong?

>> No.7870828

>>7870824
Same here.

>> No.7870838

Its a great book. Its absolutely the best. Its a number one seller. Its fantastic. It has the best words.

>> No.7870839

>>7870828
>>7870824
Why? Legitimately asking.

>> No.7870840

>>7870818
>Donald Trump with Tony Schwartz
=
>Tony Schwartz, with Donald Trump's lawyer's stamp of approval.

>> No.7870843

>>7870839
He's the wrecking ball and the builder.

>> No.7870866
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7870866

>not buying an annotated edition

>> No.7870875

>>7870843
Well that's what he claims, and I think that would be great if he was, but I'm extremely skeptical about those claims because he has nothing but a charismatic stage persona and narcissistic ramblings to back it up.

>> No.7870877

>>7870838
A guy called me up the other day, very smart guy. Called me to tell me how great he thinks it is. He was a black guy, by the way. I respect him a lot.

>> No.7870880

>>7870875
>trump is a narcissist meme
>trump has no policy meme

Do you watch CNN by any chance?

>> No.7870888

>>7870880
No I don't. Are you going to actually respond with reasons to back up your position or am I just wasting my time?

>> No.7870891

High energy book. For high energy people. You need to read it if you're not a low energy millenial cuck.

>> No.7870893

>>7870888
Have you ever listened to one of his speeches?

>> No.7870902
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7870902

I'd be happy with either Hillary or Trump

>> No.7870910

>>7870893
I’m telling you, I used to use the word incompetent. Now I just call them stupid. I went to an Ivy League school. I’m very highly educated. I know words, I have the best words...but there is no better word than stupid.

Trump for pres 2016

>> No.7870914

>>7870893
Yes I have listened to a lot of Trumps speeches, and they are filled with him praising himself, posturing himself to appear tough, and saying "what's on his mind," which never reflects any consistent political convictions based on what he's said in the past.

>> No.7870917

>>7870893
Today he went full on against abortion.

A year ago he was for abortion.

This man makes fllipflops like this all the time.

This is who you want for prez

>> No.7870920

>>7870914
Wow, that was great. You could be a reporter for CNN.

I would've expected better from /lit/ though

>> No.7870934

>>7870920
Cool, you can characterize my observations. Now please, answer my question and give me some actual reasons for why you personally want him to be president over the other candidates.

>> No.7870937

>>7870934
it would be funny

>> No.7870938

>>7870917
Still better than Hillary, or Bernie and his cancerous fanbase.

>> No.7870941

>>7870937
Pretty much why I'm voting for him

>> No.7870944

>>7870934
I always vote for the least apt candidate.
If I could elect a cat, I would.

>> No.7870951

>Tony Schwartz
>Schwartz
Kikes and goys detected.

>> No.7870953

>>7870941
>>7870937
proof democracy doesnt work,

>> No.7870959

>>7870953
nothing works

>> No.7870968

>>7870959
damn you got me there
we should just quit civilization live in huts

>> No.7870969

>>7870953
took you a while

>> No.7870972

/pol/ here
redpill me on literature

>> No.7870979

>>7870937
>>7870938
>>7870941
>>7870944
>>7870959
Oh ya, I forgot I'm on 4chan, where it's uncool to believe in anything, even on the literature board.

>> No.7870983

>>7870979
I believe in things but I still like a good stitch up

>> No.7870989

>>7870983
There are ways to do that without voting in a complete joke of a president.

>> No.7870991

>>7870989
don't get me wrong I want Hillary to win but Trump would be alright too

>> No.7870995

>>7870989
Who isn't a joke that has a shot at the presidency? Name 1 person in the race that would be better.

>> No.7870999

>>7870991
>Hillary
Why the hell would I want her?
I'm just going to be clear and say that I am an anarcho-syndicalist but that I would prefer Sanders to any other candidate by far.

>> No.7871001

>>7870999
>Why the hell would I want her?
she would destroy America

>> No.7871040

>>7871001
>>7870824
>>7870828
>>7870880
Children or people who don't actually pay attention to Washington(or only just started)
>>7870953
We don't live in a democracy. The RNC and DNC have a nomination process that begins a more than a year before the election. A series of press conferences are held lieu of debates and the media declares the winner, The two main parties choose two people and then the electoral college decides which one is the President.

>> No.7871102

>>7871040
Nice opinions fagtron

>> No.7871147

>>7870880
Serious, non-PC reasons not to support Trump:

- Much of his economic policy is predicated on getting industrial jobs back from overseas. But no matter what tariffs he puts on trade with China, the jobs won't return due to the increasing prevalence of automation.
- Net migration from Mexico is 0 and has been declining; a wall might actually stop illegals from leaving.
- On pretty much every issue besides trade, from healthcare to gun control to his opinion on David Duke, he's flip flopped. Even people who agree with him on all policy proposals should be concerned about whether he'll stay consistent on these policies.
- Polls have shown that the citizens of most other nations strongly dislike him; electing him would be a foreign policy disaster.
- While the recent wave of terrorist attacks have been by Muslims, most were done by nationals, not immigrants or refugees. His Muslim immigration ban won't stop terrorist attacks.
- Putin's support for Trump should be a cause for concern; Putin is incredibly pragmatic and doesn't want the US to have leaders likely to impede his interests.

>> No.7871188

>>7871147
>the jobs won't return due to the increasing prevalence of automation
ENNNHHH wrong

>Net migration from Mexico is 0 and has been declining; a wall might actually stop illegals from leaving

against ILLEGAL immigration, so net migration from Mexico being zero (it's not) is irrelevant. and illegals will get deported, not leave on their own volition.


>Polls have shown that the citizens of most other nations strongly dislike him; electing him would be a foreign policy disaster.

why?

>While the recent wave of terrorist attacks have been by Muslims, most were done by nationals, not immigrants or refugees. His Muslim immigration ban won't stop terrorist attacks.

your logic is bad fampai.

>His Muslim immigration ban won't stop terrorist attacks.

it'll prevent potential attacks. are you thick?

>> No.7871199

>>7871147
>>7871188

just adding on, I only support him because of his stance on immigration and Muslims
or at least he's the only candidate willing to admit that there's a problem that needs to be addressed. I'm well aware of the fact that he's a centre right/left candidate

>Putin's support for Trump should be a cause for concern; Putin is incredibly pragmatic and doesn't want the US to have leaders likely to impede his interests.

am I missing some obvious grand point?

>> No.7871267

I wouldn't vote for the guy but that book is good and worth a read

>> No.7871284

>>7871199
>I will overlook all of the problems with this man's incredibly ill-conceived political ideas because he makes me feel good about the existential neurosis of being white and working class

>> No.7871327

>>7871284
If one of your primary concerns is the disregarding of the white working class in modern politics, the election Trump would be a landmark in restorating it to political relevancy.

>> No.7871676

>>7871284
>classism and white bigotry is A okay

>> No.7871776

>>7870917
wrong shit stain he was for abortion like 20 yrs ago

>> No.7871823

>>7870972
Start with the greeks

>> No.7871996

>>7870902
I'd be happy with anyone. Politics doesn't affect me in the slightest and never will. I'm outside of the system

>> No.7872008

>>7870917
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/politics/donald-trump-abortion-town-hall/

And now he's back where he started. See? It all works out.

>> No.7872019

>>7870972
>redpill me
Hang yourself

>> No.7872032

>>7872008
I still don't understand what the big deal is about saying IF abortion is illegal, THEN you should be punished if you get one. He was saying hypothetically. I'm really pro-choice, I'm all for after-birth abortion as late as 5 years, but seriously I've never seen the media take what someone's said THIS much out of context. It's really rattling. It makes you wonder if they've been doing it this long and you just haven't noticed. Every time I hear a headline about Donald Trump while I'm going about my business (I don't actually own a TV) it'll be something outrageous like "DONALD TRUMP WANTS TO KILL MEXICANS AND SHOOT MUSLIMS WITH BACON BULLETS" and I'll go home and look it up and what he actually said will have little (or in some cases) absolutely nothing to do with what the media says he said.

>> No.7872039

>>7872019
You're being pretty intolerant of other board cultures here. You're basically telling an Indian guy to kill himself for saying namaste

>> No.7872042

The only way it could be worse is if Trump would have actually wrote it himself.

>> No.7872051

ITT: /pol/ BTFO by /lit/

>> No.7872057

>>7872051
Judging by the rampant antisemitism on this board I would say there's quite a lot of crossboard traffic

>> No.7872062

>>7870818

I'm not a fan of cult leaders.

>> No.7872063
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7872063

>>7870866

I like this edition more

>> No.7872068

>>7872062
I DEFOO YOU

>> No.7872069

>>7870937
>>7870938
>>7870941

Why are you retards even allowed to vote? Equal rights was a mistake.

>> No.7872072

>>7870866
I would pay a lot of money for a copy with that cover

>> No.7872076

>>7872068

ONE FUCKING DOLLAR, PAL. THAT'S ALL I NEED TO MAGA.

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>>7872069
Liberal elitist detected.

>> No.7872082

>>7872069
Why are you so upset people are taking the piss out of your "election"? It's not like at this point the president actually makes any real decisions whatsoever so why not vote for the joke guy that you kind of agree with on some things? It's as if Vermin Supreme was actually a legitimate contender presidency, why would you not take the opportunity to have fun and get what little enjoyment you can from life by electing a president that makes a lot of jokes? The President of the United States will be a joke no matter what, he might as well actually be funny

>> No.7872083

>>7872069
I'm 100% certain I'm smarter than you
society is crumbling and I'm going to enjoy it

>> No.7872102

>>7872076
That'd be a small loan.

>> No.7872105

>>7872102
For you

>> No.7872113

>>7870917
>Today he went full on against abortion.

That's not even remotely what he said.

He was asked a dumb shit hypothetical question by that faggot Chris Matthews about if, hypothetically, abortion was illegal, would there be punishment for women and doctors who perform them. He said there would have to be. Usually when something is illegal, there is a punishment which comes along with breaking the law. That's how laws work.

Way to be brainwashed by the media though.

>> No.7872123

>>7872032
I know, I don't have TV either, so I had no idea how it actually was. I was at a hotel the other day and I turned on CNN and slamming Donald Trump was literally all they were doing for hours and hours, it just wouldn't end. It made me physically ill and I don't even really care for Trump.

>> No.7872124

>>7872113
fully behind the death penalty for all mainstream media employees at this point tbqh

>> No.7872136

>>7872113
My family were going on about this yesterday and I didn't even bother to look it up or argue with them but I knew it was something like this

>> No.7872150

>>7871147

> Net migration from mexico is declining

You know how CNN always talk about "undocumented immigrants"?

I wonder if they're documented in those statistics


> Polls have shown that the citizens of most other nations strongly dislike him; electing him would be a foreign policy disaster.

He's the only one who won't start WW3 with Russia.


> While the recent wave of terrorist attacks have been by Muslims, most were done by nationals, not immigrants or refugees. His Muslim immigration ban won't stop terrorist attacks.

Easy. Just ban people incoming from muslim extremist countries, just like there is a hold on people coming from Ebola countries, even though statistically, the percent of people with Ebola now is negligible.

> Putin's support for Trump should be a cause for concern; Putin is incredibly pragmatic and doesn't want the US to have leaders likely to impede his interests.

Everyone else wants to start WW3

>> No.7872174

>>7870972

if you think in red pills and blue pills you will gain nothing from literature, so don't bother

>> No.7872183

>>7872069
It was, people like you shouldn't be able to vote.


Also to everyone else:

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2016/03/28/3762742/trump-rhetoric-2/

Trump is a profoundly talented fool.

>> No.7872184

>>7872150
>war is cool

>> No.7872188

>>7872183
>thinkprogress
not clicking on this virus

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>>7872124
Same, familia. >>7872124

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>>7872184

>> No.7872472

>>7872183

>thinkprogress

You probably shouldn't be on /lit/ if you're this much of a brainwashed cuck to be linking obvious dishonest propaganda.

>> No.7872499

>>7870818
Some useful information and strategies that you can see him use in his speeches, followed by hundreds of pages of not really relevant memoirs about how great he is.

>> No.7872670

>>7872183

I vote for who most closely shares my ideas. It's mostly independents though, as I think the two party system is absolute garbage. I've been told I'm "wasting my vote" but that is not possible because I am not compromising and doing my civic duty.

If it were up to me though, we'd be better off with Athenian democracy. Though, as I know first-hand, people hate jury duty so I couldn't really imagine them being like a senate.

>> No.7872849

>>7871040
>The two frontrunners who will inevitably be elected are both going to ruin the country
wew
feel the bern amirite

>> No.7872871

>>7870880
>trump is a narcissist meme
>meme

Don't make me go and find quotes to prove this point. I shouldn't have to. It's obvious to all but the most retarded.

>> No.7872907

>>7872871
How is Trump like Hitler?

>> No.7872912
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7872912

If I only have time to read one, should I read Art of the Deal or Crippled America?

>> No.7872918

>>7872912
Neither you fucking nonce. Stop giving this idiot relevance.

>> No.7872929

>>7872918
>not educating yourself about major candidates
I plan on reading Bernie's book too.

>> No.7872983

Feels pretty good to know that shitlibs will be frothing at the mouth come November.

Guess what, baby, Trump will make America great again, whether you like it or not. :^)

>> No.7872988

>>7872983
Define 'great'.

>> No.7872999

>>7872083
*nods respectfully towards you*

>> No.7873003

>>7872988
Thousands of bernouts will become an heros because 'muh free shit' doesn't come true.

>> No.7873006

>>7872929
>needing an entire book to realise there is little substance or value to trump

>> No.7873010

>>7873003
Oh look, a predictably derisive reply. Why not just admit you're a racist and have done with this farce?

>> No.7873011

I want Trump to win.

If the worst happens you can just drink yourself senseless and jump off a ledge to avoid being skeletonized by the fallout

>> No.7873013

>>7873010
everyone is racist

history is just zero-sum tribalism and white people are in a situation where they are told not behave in a zero-sum fashion by a very zero-sum group

>> No.7873014

>>7873006
"lel, i'm going to watch buzzfeed and read Huffington Post to get my information instead of reading from primary sources #TuckFrump #MakeDonaldDrumpfAgain #TheYoungTurks"

>> No.7873023

>>7873014
You should only need one interview/speech desu senpai.

>> No.7873027

>>7873013
>everyone is racist

This is what racists think.

>> No.7873028

>>7871147

Yeah Trump is a protectionist, but look what he's running against

>> No.7873031

>>7873013
That's a good way of putting it.

>> No.7873047

>>7873027
Great, then we agree that "non-racists" are delusional.

>> No.7873051

>>7873010
Why don't you kill yourself you bleeding heart?
No one said shit about racism

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>>7872062

>> No.7873091

>>7872032
>I'm all for after-birth abortion as late as 5 years
wtf man

>> No.7873103

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77DrxHj0mE

>> No.7873112

lmao he is literally saying everything to win
not unlike the other contestants

>> No.7873124

>>7872019
>>7872174
retards

>> No.7873133
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7873133

I just don't understand. how can a place like /lit/ which I assume to have more critical thinking capabilities than /pol/, actually and unironically look up to this dude?

Before everyone leaps to call me a libcuck or whatever it is that trumpfags say, I need to clarify that I am not even american and could not give less of a shit about this tug of war between left wing liberalism and right wing conservatism.

I just fail to fathom how people who visit this board can be swayed by his stupidity. Even as a dispassionate, neutral, uninvested outside observer, it is so apparent to me that this guy is such a crass moron.

How can the same people admire trump and dfw? I just don't understand.

>> No.7873156

>>7873133

>Current Year
>Not liking Donald Trump
>God Emperor

I do declare

>> No.7873162

>>7873133
I'll give you a hint: the median visitor to this board is clinically retarded.

>> No.7873172

>>7873133
relax it's a meme
like everything else...

>> No.7873186

>>7873172

even so, don't people eventually get tired of the same old memes being parroted over and over again? ffs it gets stale and repetitive and boring after a while. I don't expect this board to be the paragon of creative thought and expression but jesus fucking christ, the memes could certainly be more clever, original and complex.

there's only so much of
>"lolz dae trump make murica gr8 again"

that one can find stimulating. don't people crave for something more than that after a while?

>> No.7873191

>>7873186
>don't people crave for something more than that after a while?
that's why we watch the rallies

>> No.7873205

>>7873186
Once Trump loses the general election the memes will decline. As long as Hillary doesn't get indicted Trump really doesn't have a shot and he still has to get the Republican nomination.

>> No.7873221

>>7873133
You're a moron.

>> No.7873256

>>7873133
Why do you think he's stupid?

Why do you think he's a crass moron? He's being attacked on all sides by every single media on the planet and they have literally nothing on him despite him being on the news for the past 40 years. If you read his books, listen to him speak, you'll find that he's a vastly intelligent person who built his empire up from scratch and the only reason why people are scared of him is because he's going to remove power from a lot of people who do not want that to happen.

>> No.7873293

>>7873133

I don't think he's a moron, as he does play a lot of stuff in his favour. I just think he's a narcissistic cunt that epitomizes what is wrong with America: he is a man of wealth and yearns to show it off. Instead of attempting to be humble (he himself has said he is a Christian so this is a big thing) he instead flaunts it in everything he does. A lot of others do that, and they're not even wealthy. It's pathetic narcissism that means nothing.

Also, his daughter is 80% plastic now.

>> No.7873303

>>7873256
>built his empire from scratch
this is what trumpfags actually believe

All of his business connections in the real estate business and money came from his family, which was already quite wealthy at the time. There is no comparison between Trump and someone like Sheldon Adelson or Li Ka-Shing.

>> No.7873451

SSC wrote a great review of it a couple of weeks ago.

>> No.7873473

>>7873133
>Even as a dispassionate, neutral, uninvested outside observer
theres your answer, you haven't been following it closely. listen to one of his speeches before you embarass yourself any further

>> No.7873481

>>7871199
>>7871188
Nice double double-dubs. Also this guy gets it

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7873483

>>7873256
>If you read his books, listen to him speak, you'll find that he's a vastly intelligent person who built his empire up from scratch and the only reason why people are scared of him is because he's going to remove power from a lot of people who do not want that to happen.

It's super funny that conspiracytards (like alex jones) are falling for a guy like Donald Trump, a junk real estate financier parasite with deep connections into the elite. Trump's a product of J. Edgar Hoover’s New York circles which included mobbed-up businessmen like Lewis Rosenstiel, along with Cardinal Spellman and various Wall Street establishment and media figures, all presided over by Hoover’s main New York man, the satanic Roy M. Cohn. Cohn who was Trump’s lawyer and best friend throughout most of Trump’s formative years -- his mentor, according to Trump himself.

Trumps probably been building up deep ties into the military industrial complex over the past couple of months for contracts he will hand out to his cronies when he becomes president.

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>>7873483
>conspiracytards
>deep ties into the military industrial complex
>cronies
>satanic

i think you've been watching too many michael moore films to have your opinion considered

>> No.7873514

>>7873293
He's a rich bastard but at least he'american and seems to give a fuck about his country. Unlike the other Jewish international bankers' puppets.

>> No.7873549

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3xuj-aJyaE

>The Sharia is coming to America. One day you will know.

Please God, let Trump get elected.

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>>7873511
The point I'm making is Trump has been a part of the worst sections of the "establishment" tinfoil hats have feared for years but they're embracing him as a saviour all of a sudden... if the NWO Illuminati lizard people ever wanted to launch a Bonapartist coup d'etat and full martial law it would be via a character like Trump to fool Alex Jonetards into embracing them

>> No.7873569

>>7873560
yeah but Trump retweeted a Pepe, this proves his authenticity

>> No.7873606

>>7873560
>full martial law
Do people actually believe that Trump will enact martial law? Why?

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>>7870824
>>7870828
>>7870838

>> No.7873671

>>7873606
He already said he would outlaw encryption technology and dictate private sector corporate policy

There will probably be social unrest if he's elected so I don't see why he wouldn't respond with martial law

>> No.7873676

>>7873606
It is nothing short of an exaggeration. How else would you expect him to round up and deport ~11 million people?

>> No.7873698

>>7873676
uhh.. probably using the police, not the military. the same way you round up criminals and put them in jail. the 11 million people aren't all in one place. they're not an army.

>>7873671
>outlaw encryption technology
this 100% will not happen and the idea was probably given to you by some michael moore-tier article

>dictate private sector corporate policy
i don't think dictate is the right word, he would probably impose certain limitations on what can be done if it is harming the country, which has been the role of government since it was created

>> No.7873701

>>7871188

Not being a yank I see most of you as having the anti-intellectualist, uncritical attitudes as this cunt here

especially sorry if i'm not in the fringe

>> No.7873717

>>7873698
>uhh.. probably using the police, not the military. the same way you round up criminals and put them in jail. the 11 million people aren't all in one place. they're not an army.
How would you differentiate between citizens and illegals?

>> No.7873732

>>7873717
documentation and records, for example passports. illegal immigrants wouldn't have a US passport, they'd either have nothing or a mexican passport (and fakes can be spotted by officials)

you do realize people all over the world have birth certificates and passports to prove who they are, right? if you couldn't use the law to differentiate between citizens and illegals then why even have a country, or a police force, or laws? just let everyone do what they want. that would end in total chaos.

>> No.7873741

>>7873133
He speaks his mind and comes across as "authentic" in a field where authenticity is basically nonexistent.

>> No.7873752

>>7873133
I would never actually support Trump or vote for him but the people he pisses off annoy me so much that he gives me immense amounts of satisfaction simply by existing.

I don't think he's an idiot however. All public figures speak at a level much below their own abilities, he just seems to be taking this further than most of them, which makes sense given his voter demographic.

>> No.7873761

>>7873752
>I would never actually support Trump or vote for him but... [gleaming endorsement]

why do people do this? there is literally nothing to be ashamed about by voting for Donald Trump. He and Sanders are the only candidates that will be able to pull America in the right direction economically

>> No.7873764

>>7873732
in the US, and pretty much any civilized country, there are no laws in place that require people to carry identification of any kind. There are exceptions in some states but you have to get caught while attempting to commit a crime.

>mfw trumpfags are unironically trying to turn their nation into a police state where police simply asks for your papers at their whims

>> No.7873769

>>7873761
Because I'm edgy and think democracy is retarded and broken and presidents accomplish fuck-all.

And I dislike both Sanders and Trump, Trump simply has to be defended a bit because of how out of whack the general perception on him is.

>> No.7873786

>>7873764
you're not required to carry but you can be made to produce identification. and they HAVE committed a crime, crossing the border and residing in a country illegally. it's actually against the law to do that. I can't just walk into a foreign country and decide to live there, you have to go through legal processes to become a citizen

>> No.7873787

>>7870838

lmao

>> No.7873792

>>7873786
>>7873764
unless it was a third world country where they wouldn't care if you were there illegally. which is what Trump is trying to prevent the US from becoming

>> No.7873795

>>7870920
>>7870880

this is actually pathetic

>> No.7873796

>>7872069
>Equal rights was a mistake.

In fact, it was. Democracy itself was a mistake, but granting rights to those without a lot of property, then those with no property, then non-whites, then women (this was the biggest fuck-up), all made it much, much worse.

>> No.7873797

>>7873786
>you're not required to carry but you can be made to produce identification.

so in other words, you don't HAVE to carry, it's just that you'll be punished for it if you don't

good to know

>> No.7873811

>>7873797
>so in other words, you don't HAVE to obey the law, it's just that you'll be punished for it if you don't

There are actually people out there who think like this. Go and live in a country without laws like Sierra Leone for a year and we'll see if you still keep it up with this edgy no-laws attitude

>> No.7873812

>>7871188
>>7871199

Are you ACTUALLY retarded? You do not understand why it would be a problem if the American president was hated in every single country but America?

>> No.7873818

>>7873786
>you're not required to carry but you can be made to produce identification.
only under certain circumstances
>and they HAVE committed a crime, crossing the border and residing in a country illegally. it's actually against the law to do that. I can't just walk into a foreign country and decide to live there, you have to go through legal processes to become a citizen
that's a whole lot of assumptions, considering there is a vast quantity of legal citizens who are also Hispanic living in the US, you can't know whether the person in question entered the country illegally or not unless you ask for his documentation, and you need reasonable suspicion in order to ask for such documentation.

>> No.7873826

>>7873812
Trump would be less despised by the rest of the world than Obama.

Source: non-american

>> No.7873831

>>7873811
I was just pointing out the tautological nature of your statement

>> No.7873834

>>7873812
>ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??

lol

>> No.7873839

>>7873826
Source: your ass

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>>7873831

>> No.7873848

>>7872082

Ever heard of Truman? Do you know what the Vietnam war is? War on drugs? Remember Pig's Bay when everyone thought the world was going to blow up? Guantanamo Bay? Putin fucking annexing Crimea? Merkel's refugee policy? But yeah, presidents have no power whatsoever, right? Clinton and Trump will be no difference at all, right?

>>7872083

>society is crumbling and I'm going to enjoy it

this is fucking embarrassing.

Please just kill yourself.

>> No.7873854

>>7873786
>and they HAVE committed a crime

No real probable cause, honestly. You can't just look at someone and go "that's an illegal" and then demand identification. It's why the war on drugs is so shitty because some cunt with a badge can go "I smell marijuana" and then do an anal search on you, which completely fucks the fourth amendment.

>> No.7873861

>>7872150

>He's the only one who won't start WW3 with Russia.

you're clinically insane

>> No.7873862

>>7870902
whyhillary famarino?

>> No.7873868

>>7873846
Trump supporter AND you posted the fedrodra meme? Clearly this discussion is a bit out of my league

>> No.7873869

>>7873848
>Putin fucking annexing Crimea?
Implying this is even a problem. They're mostly Russian and wanted to join and Ukraine isn't even a real country

>> No.7873872

>>7873854
Do you honestly think that they won't be able to find illegal immigrants?

>> No.7873876

>>7873868
>Clearly this discussion is a bit out of my league
You couldn't have made yourself sound like a fedora wearing neckbeard if you tried

>> No.7873877

>>7873133

like at least a third of the people on here are /pol/acks at this point. no fucking idea why it took you so long to find out...

select all pickup trucks

>> No.7873881

>>7873256

>built his empire up from scratch

are you fucking kidding me nigger

>> No.7873882

>>7873876
Well thanks for the vote of confidence (you forgot a word in your devastating takedown)

>> No.7873888

>>7873872

I'm just saying that the cops aren't going to be cruising down the street eating a doughnut and point one out.

>> No.7873889

>>7873882
sounds like you still got the meaning

>> No.7873891

>>7870917
Chris Matthews asked a hypothetical question--"if abortion was illegal..."

Trump gave a hypothetical response. Maybe try getting your information from a less biased source. Your Salon is showing.

>> No.7873892

>>7873483

I think its weird as fuck that almost everyone on /pol/ is supporting trump yet he's obviously the biggest jew lover in entire fucking america

it just doesnt make sense

>> No.7873893

>>7873877
It's like 4chan is a microcosm of the undesirability of mass immigration.

Death to globalism. On the Day of the Rope, every politician who supported mass immigration will be hung in a public square.

>> No.7873896

>>7870989
I mean, to be fair, Bernie would be just as much of a joke.

He's a geriatric Marxist. In America.

>> No.7873898

>>7873888
yeah true, but they will be able to organize an operation to see it through (i'm sure it would take many police forces from many states to undertake)

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>>7872183
>thinkprogress

>> No.7873902

>>7873892
Because Trump is the most politically incorrect candidate. Its not an anti-jew board its apolitically incorrect board

>> No.7873907

>>7873898

They can do that without Trump though, so it's not an election thing.

>> No.7873908

>>7873826

obama was and is positively received in almost every country in the world that matters. relations with europe, except putin of course, have improved by a lot

youre talkin outta your fuckin ass my man

>> No.7873914

>>7873869

I never said it was a problem. I was giving examples of presidents who actually did something, because the other guy thought it LITERALLY doesn't matter who you vote for

>> No.7873917

>>7873908
We don't really need to be on good terms with Europe, to be honest.

They're committing suicide and won't be relevant in like 10 years anyway.

I'd say even without a strong Nationalist leader America has a solid ~20-30 years in the tank.

>> No.7873920

>>7873907
not exactly, because Obama (and all other candidates running this year) would actually overrule any operation like that if they tried it

>> No.7873924

>>7873908
Europe is not really fond of the fact that Obama's administration was spying on them. Germans in particular don't like him

>> No.7873934

>>7873908
>obama was and is positively received in almost every country
Yeah according to your media.

Maybe by foreign leaders he's 'positivey received' but by people of the countries hes seen as a lame duck president who only got voted in because hes black

Again i'm from another country and this is true

>> No.7873946

>>7873920

It should be up to the state governors, honestly.

>> No.7873950

>>7873946
Yeah exactly

>> No.7873957

/pol/ here
redpill me on literature

>> No.7873966

>>7873891
Yeah, but Trump's position is still retarded.

Making abortion illegal or letting states decide would only help increase the number of false rape claims given that it is only legal to obtain an abortion due to rape. And the number of cucks would increase that would be raising illegitimate children. It's like Trump supporters want to be cucked in the most literal way possible. Good job handing cuck Francis a major victory.

>> No.7873967

>>7873957
The plot is a diversion by mainstream media to distract you from what's actually going- the themes, which are orchestrated by a shadowy Jewish cabal, but beneath all of this is the actual purpose of the book, its true essence, which can only be reached through religious understanding of the text.

>> No.7873996

>>7873924
>>7873934

I'm German and hes popular as fucking hell. mass media has always been supportive of him. general populace has. lots of polls can tell you that, all u have to do is a google search....

>> No.7874013

>>7873996
>germany
lol not even surprised

>> No.7874016

>>7874013
>>7873996
coming from a country where you're taking in muslims by the millions and doing nothing when they mass rape women, Obama must be popular

>> No.7874075

>>7874013
>>7874016

the other poster literally said "Germans in particular dont like him"

are you gonna make a point or are you just gonna keep on memeing?

>> No.7874108

why do politics make people so angry :o

why cant people just respect eachothers opinion and the democracy in general?

>> No.7874111

>>7874108
because democracy is garbage

>> No.7874113

>>7870818
nah

>> No.7874117

>>7874111
you would rather have dictatorship?

>> No.7874118

>>7874108
cuz there's money on the line, ur opinion on pynchon isn't going to fuck up my retirement, but ur opinion on the role of the social safety net in a democracy might

>> No.7874122

>>7874117
implying my wishes matter

>> No.7874183

>>7874111
>>7874117
We're on /lit/ kiddies, no need to pretend our society isnt a crippled shadow of
actual democracy

>> No.7874333

>>7873303
you make me laugh. Like youre fucking hilariously stupid

>> No.7874340

>>7873826
They gave Obama a Nobel literally just because he wasn't George W. Bush. He was well-received around the world.

>> No.7874353

>>7874117
I would rather have a monarchy, but I would still prefer, say, a military dictatorship to democracy.

>> No.7874358

>>7870818
It was pretty good.

>> No.7874380

Thanks for this thread.

I was so bored with it. Was excited and then just meh no, too much facts, and it wasn't written by him it seems which made it worse.

>> No.7874609

>>7873483
>a product of Wall Street establishment and media figures

Well good thing Hillary is getting the nomination, amirite?

>> No.7874614

>>7870818

Lots of masturbation and dick waving.

>> No.7874657

>>7871284
>A man who has done no blue collar work in his life and has always had access to money will be able to make huge improvements for working class and lower middle class citizens

I bet you believe in trickle-down economics too

>> No.7874682

>>7870828
same here. He HAS to win

>> No.7874688

>>7871147
>- Putin's support for Trump should be a cause for concern; Putin is incredibly pragmatic and doesn't want the US to have leaders likely to impede his interests.

I don't get it.

>> No.7874699

>>7870893
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apaToLjdRp4
12:38 he starts shilling his own Macy's cufflinks. the whole thing is inane.
>>7870902
you get pretty much the same thing 2bh. same Wall Street execs, mil-industrial complex and Saudi/Israel shills as foreign policy advisors

>> No.7874711

>>7873133
I'm also not American but i support Trump. He really is going to make America again, however, not the whole world. The GOP hates Trump. Hillary is a catastrophie, Bernie is a graduate fag, Cruz is a sociopath. Trump may not be kind and understanding but he is the best option for the country, if not, for the people. Islamic people are running the world. They are in social media, they are free. Hell, even if i was American, i wouldn't be so angry at Trump for wanting to make America better.

I'm sure you heard about Infowars and there is a famous republican Alex Jones and he supported Trump. Alex doesn't like the NSA, he is a 9/11 truther, he is patriotic. Also if you see those anti-Trumpers, they are mostly students and young people who knows jack shit about what really is the best thing for the country. On the other hand, Trump supporters are mostly middle aged or senior citizens who seem more "calm" than liberals. Them Liberals go absolutely MAD. They are the most violent Americans i've ever seen.

I really hate Communism which makes me hate Obama. Because of Communism, lots of soldiers have died for the freedom and the only thing i can mend for their sacrifices to fight Communism in WW1 WW2 is to be conservative and support the ones who's like last-mentioned. Donald Trump is the only viable choice for the 2016 presidency candidate. I will probably get my citizenship for America this year and after that, i will vote for Trump.

>> No.7874720

>>7874657
I have a hard time seeing what digging ditches has to do with managing a country on the federal level. If the president is doing his job perfectly, he is not digging ditches. He is allocating budgets, overseeing projects, directing subordinates, negotiating and building and partnerships with other nations. So yes, I would prefer that whoever occupies that role has experience in all of those things. It's a good thing that he has worked on projects at a national level and has a history of managing large sums of money and employees to meet various goals and deadlines, and to turn that money into more money.

The question is, /if/ he will use his powers for good instead of evil.

>> No.7874721

>>7874711
>OH MY FUCKING GOD I AM FUCKING DUMB PLEASE KILL ME

>> No.7874733

>>7874699
>he talks about his cufflinks for 15 seconds in a 90 minute speech
I'm voting for Hillary now

>> No.7874739

>>7874711
nice. should be in time to vote in november

>> No.7874748

>>7874739
yup. I ordered my Trump t-shirt yesterday. Hope it arrives fast

>> No.7874759

>>7874733
Hate her perhaps even more than Trump, but I found that moment to be specially insightful concerning the Donald's character. Trump is pure simulation.

>> No.7874804

>>7874759
>he devoted 1/360th of his speech to promoting his brand
>he only spent 359/360th's of his speech actually campaigning

please. that says nothing about his character.

>> No.7874830

>>7873861
What? Do you even know his foreign policy proposals?

He and Bernie were some of the only candidates to come out against Syrian regime change.

these millennial kids repeating anti Trump memes they heard from their high school friends make me extremely pessimistic

>> No.7874859

>>7874830
they'll grow out of it when they hit 15

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>>7872063
The Penguin editions are nice.

>> No.7874894

>>7873133
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>> No.7874957

I'd still vote for Trump just to spite the bern victims and politically apathetic nihilists on /lit/ if I didn't already want him to win.

>are you seriously asking me to explain my reasoning? It's obvious!

>> No.7874994

>>7870824
Who dosent? You'd have to be mad not to.

>> No.7874997

>>7873172
Like Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton

>> No.7875035

>>7871188
Your arguments amount to "no that is not the case" on every point. This is why businesses will pay machines to bag groceries in the future, instead of freaks like you. Freak.

>> No.7875042

>>7870818
He won't win.
Stop being so stupid guys

>> No.7875044

>>7875042
that's what everyone said about Reagan

>> No.7875048

>>7874859
Just in time to vote for Ivanka in 8 years.

>> No.7875073

>>7870818
i read it and now no longer have thoughts

>> No.7875075

>>7870824
mate you don't have a non-meme idea in your head, fag cunt

>> No.7876529

It's actually not bad literature, incredibly.

It's extremely frank and honest, and the topics he discusses are really interesting.

>> No.7876694

Anybody who personally knows any salesmen knows that a good one can sell something about which he knows nothing.
Just keep that in mind.

>> No.7876706

>>7876694
Yeah but Trump isn't just selling a product while he's campaigning. It's different because I agree with him.

>> No.7876893

>>7873133
You are delusional if you think Trump is stupid.
It's just an act.