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Is Russian literature part of the Western Canon, i.e Dostoevsky? Because politically Russia isn't a part of the West, is it?

>> No.7821939

:^)
don't tell anybody, it's a secrit illogical fallacy amongst literature experts worldwide lol

>> No.7821955

>>7821923
>politically
wew laddie

>> No.7821966

>>7821955
Thanks for answering m8

>> No.7822346

It's politically not part of the West and kinda still sorta part of the West, politically. It occupies a sort of midpoint between the West and the East, and frankly for a lot of its history it so desperately craved to be European that I don't really mind letting it slide in.

>> No.7822445

>>7821923
I don't think that politics is necessarily the most relevant aspect of the question - although it is part of it.

Historically Russia (particularly the Western cities: Moscow, St Petersburg etc.) I think would be considered European. That's not the case for those that live in the far east of the country but, since when did anyone from Eastern Russia get placed among the Western Canon.

Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Gogol etc. all lived and wrote about Western Russia. If you look at their history when most of these writers were around - i.e. before the Bolsheviks took over - their leaders admired and took influence from European monarchs and their palaces replicated those in Europe, although they were designed deliberately much more lavishly.

It was only after the establishment of the Soviet Union did the Russians, for the first time in a couple of centuries, see themselves as something exceptional compared the Europe.

There will be writers in Russia that follow an Eastern tradition more than the Western tradition, but the ones which we tend to place in our canon are suitable because they chose to write taking influence from the Western canon.

>> No.7822503

Who is this semen demon?

>> No.7822513
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>>7822503
I had a lot of photos of this girl for some reason.

>> No.7822517

>>7822513
"some reason"
Go on family, we are listening.
Seems great so I'd love to get the whole picture on this person.

>> No.7822734

>>7821923

Who is dis semen demen

>>7822513

>> No.7823154

>>7821923
Russia is a European nation that expanded eastward. The only two Russian cities that have ever mattered, Moscow and St. Petersburg, are geographically in Europe. Everything else is backwater serf country. Before the Bolshevik Revolution, Russia was universally considered a European nation.

Literarily (this should be a word, but isn't), Russia is considered unique. It's similar to European lit, but is considered to possess that distinctive Russian tone and mood that sets it apart from any other nation's literature.

post more pics of the girl please

>> No.7823185

>>7821923
Politically Russia was very Western. French was the language of court for centuries. Voltaire used communicate with the Empress Catherine. Riga's changed hands as the largest port city in the Baltic across Russia, Latvia, Sweden, and Poland before there was even a world war. Muscovy used be called "The Third Rome" and intentionally cultivated ties with the Orthodox Church in order to be in a better position to ward off the Mongols.
Really, you should be more surprised that Russian language literature ever happened they're such francaboos for so long.

>> No.7823196

Is that a prostitute

>> No.7823197

>>7822503
>>7822513
>>7822517
>>7822734
I'm here for the girl OP

>> No.7823227

>>7822513
That's a very vulgar picture, I was expecting something better by OP's pic.

>> No.7823324

>>7821923
>>7822513
m-more pls

>> No.7823343
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>>7823154
Russia is not europe and it is not asia. It is Russia

Western imperialists want to appropriate Russia's legacy and yet cannot understand why the stupid Russians oppose their paternalism

>> No.7823346

culturally west

>> No.7823357

>>7823227
not pure aryan goddess get it away

>> No.7823362

>>7822346
>most of its history
Literally 1715 - 1917.

>> No.7823374

>>7823357
What?

>> No.7823379

>>7823343
wtf is that mongol scribble

>> No.7823409

>>7823379
Eschatology of Heideggerian Dasein

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>>7823154
[citation needed]

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>> No.7823489

>>7823481
>those eyes
A literal demon of the semen

>> No.7823492

>>7822513
I didn't know there was more than one photo of this girl
Bless you OP

>> No.7823534

>>7823481
what's that tattoo say?
it looks pleb

>> No.7823557

>>7823481
Goddammit, I need to get laid.

>> No.7823601

>>7821923
Ofc Russia is west

>> No.7823627

>>7823481
this remember me how long ago was the last time that I've done sex... 3 years maybe 4...

>> No.7823638

>>7821923
You should use 'e.g.' rather than 'i.e.' unless you intend to say that all Russian literature is Dostoevsky.

>> No.7823685

>>7821923
Just because today Russia may not be politically aligned with the West doesn't mean Russian literature isn't part of the Western canon

>> No.7823687

>>7823534
All tattoos are pleb

She's still hot af tho

>> No.7823696

>>7823489
I can really tell, but it almost looks like her pupils are extremely dilated.

She is either super high, or has really dark eyes.

>> No.7823702

>>7823696
Her pupils are dilated because there's hardly any lighting in the room

>> No.7823712

>>7821923
>>7822513
>>7823481
BREHS

i need more

>> No.7823713

Russia's literature isn't secluded from the rest of Europe so yeah they are considered Western.

Id even go so far as to consider Mishima and other modern Japanese writers Western because they are in the same tradition group.

>> No.7823720

>>7821923
>>7822513
>Reads Siddhartha once

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>>7823712
I found some more

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>>7823740

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>>7823746

>> No.7823757

I feel so alone.

>> No.7823785

>>7823757
We all do, my friend.
Normal people don't read the books we read.

>> No.7823791

>>7823481
>when the barry white soundtrack skips to an audiobook podcast of The Alchemist

>> No.7823803

>>7823791
kek

>> No.7823814

>>7823481
Why are her pupils so big?

>> No.7823820

>>7823814
low light, sexual arousal

>> No.7823821

>>7823814
She's dead.

>> No.7823824

>>7823814
Heroin my laddy

>> No.7823825

>>7823820
I've never seen someone's pupils that big unless they were on drugs.

>> No.7823832

>>7823821
Let's combine something
Next time this thread pops up we reply "too soon".

>> No.7824346

>>7821923
>>7822513
>>7823481

She's Swedish, so she's probably getting BLACKED as we speak.

>> No.7824365

gofundme /wrfuypm4

>> No.7824739

>>7823757
>>7823785
I did not come here to feel these feels.

;_;

>> No.7824744

>>7823362
I said 'a lot.' A good two hundred years is enough to count as 'a lot' bud.

>> No.7824747

>>7824346
Give name if you know her.

>> No.7824748

>>7823825
sex is a drug boy

>> No.7824768

Spiritually and historically, Russia belongs to the Central Asian (Turco-Mongol) cultural sphere. The language is Indo-European, but so is Hindi and Farsi.