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Hey /lit/ do we have one of these for African American Literature?

>> No.748863
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>Africa
>literature

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>> No.748867
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>implying black people can read or write

>> No.748871

I've never understood why there's a section called black interest in bookshops. Do black people have different interests than the rest of the world?

>> No.748873
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748873

>African American
>literature

>> No.748878

>>748867
Shut up we all know you are black.

If there isn't a list I would like to make one minus the trolling please.

>> No.748884

>>748871
I have no clue. I am black and all the time I walk past there I see 50 Cent's book and never really bothered looking at any of the other books ,because I hate 50 Cent

>> No.748890

>>748884

The only name I recognise in those sections in Toni Morrison.

>> No.748892

>>748884

you mean the 50'th law?

I've crapped onto pieces of paper and created better books than that

>> No.748902

The Harlem Renaissance had some good writers.

>> No.748917

>>748902
Can you name some I'll make the chart ,but I hope someone can clean it up ,because I don't have Photoshop....
I know Zora Neale Hurston and Langstan Huges ,but that is all know of the black 1920s wiriters.
Here is a list of works I think that should be included
Song of Solomon by Toni Morrison
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
Roots by Alex Haley
Anymore?

>> No.748927

Does Carribean lit count?

Omeros by Derek Walcott
The Wine of Astonishment by Earl Lovelace

thats all I got

>> No.748936

Cane
by Toomer is great.

>> No.748940

Obligatory
Native Son.
Richard Wright

>> No.748941

when things fall apart was written by an african, tho not american

>> No.748946

Walter Mosley is a fantastic AA contemporary writer.
Killing Johnny Frey should be required reading for 4chaners.

>> No.748954

John Ridley has a couple books I liked, Love Is A Racket, and Everybody Smokes In Hell, both have a black protagonists.

>> No.748955

Jubilee by Margret Walker
Any poem by Amiri Baraka, most notably Somebody Blew Up America.

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748963

African not American.
Good though.

>> No.748968

If He Hollers Let Him Go by Chester Himes

>> No.748973

>>748955

>Somebody Blew Up America

Thanks a lot you son of a bitch, thanks to that poem I'll never walk again.

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748977

there would be only one entry

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African-centric Sword & Sorcery

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>>748973
You are welcome sir.

>> No.748981

OP here. I am going to make it African American/ Black Literature. Also should I put Their Eyes Were Watching God? I mean the use of diction was great in the dialogue.

>> No.748982

why do you Americans say African American?
it's...just wrong. Maybe it stand for the first slaves, but following your thinking, every white should call themselves European Americans, and every chin should call themselves Asian Americans...
In Estonia we call them neeger ... and it is OK in here.
It should be called negroid literature. And why to make a difference...I mean, they are humans and think like humans...It would be the same,when we make a chart for brown haired writers or gray eyed writers.

>> No.748983

>>748979

This shit makes me angry.

Herp durr, I am black therefore I will write tales about DEEPEST AFRICA, and colossal stereotypes that would make even a racist white man blush.

Fucking STUPID.

>> No.748984

>>748981
Indeed you should.

>> No.748985

>>748983
its basically an African version of Conan

>> No.748987

>>748985

>Conan

Fucking stupid.

That, and Gor. You call those books?

I shudder to place that next to my copies of The Lord Of The Rings.

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>>748982
You should also add
<<<<<this.
It is like Moll Flanders for black women.

>> No.749007

I am going to add The Narrative of Fredrick Douglas also.

>> No.749023

Does anyone have photoshop and some free time to make this? So far the way my list looks it will take a deity to read any of the titles..

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749159

Done. Hope it looks alright

>> No.749165

it's racist to conflate the literature of people from wildly different countries and epochs just because they have a similar skin colour

>> No.749170

>>749165
I know. I add in black literature. I added them in mainly because there wasn't enough African American Literature to make a list

>> No.749172

>>749159
thanks

>> No.749176

Also yes the term African American is shitty, wake up America.

>> No.749177

>>749165
Also forgot to add that African American Literature and Literature with a darker skin color usually have similar problems. See Things Fall Apart.

>> No.749206

>>749159
Saved and will be reposted in every adv-poster thread from now on.

>> No.749218

>the count of monte christo

WHAT

WAT

?

>> No.749221

>>749218

When trying to find "black" culture every drop counts. Because racism.

>> No.749223

I feel stupid that I did not know Dumas wasn't white. I mean, I guess there was no reason to assume he was or wasn't white, but he was French, and published in the 1800s too, so I just figured he was white. When I saw him on the list I had to go look him up.
Also, saved, and will be looking for some of these books now.

>> No.749225

>>749218

I think that's on the basis that Dumas' Mum was both French and African and he had a dark complexion and rather frizzy hair.

Its thin.

>> No.749229

His fucking grandmother was half Caribbean, he was not black. You people are insane.

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>>749165
I wrote my african american lit unit essay on this fact.

Next up, economics

>> No.749236

>>749229
Ok, yeah, that makes a lot more sense then because I've discussed Dumas with people before and never did anyone mention anything about him being black. So I guess I'm not that stupid after all.

>> No.749247

>>749165

Yes and no. People with black skin have experiences in common. Aboriginal literature and African-American literature usually both deal with the black experience in a predominantly white nation.

African literature from countries predominantly black is a different story.

>> No.749261

>>749247

And even then Aboriginal experiences are more at one with Black African experiences. Because it isn't a question of slavery, but one of dispossession and especially in the Australian Aboriginal perspective - one of cultural destruction.

>> No.749265

>>749261
>implying abos are people

>> No.749275

>>749261

If by cultural destruction you mean their culture being their own downfall, then yes, that is correct.

>> No.749291

Is there an English/American one?

>> No.749293

"African-American"

There are so many things wrong with this term. I once heard American exchange students, in my University over here in Eurofagland, describe Othello as 'Afrcian-American'

I mean really now.

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>>749293

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>>749293
>Othello
>African-American

Oh wow...

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>>749293

>> No.749308

>>749293
>American

That answers everything

>> No.749311

>>749293
Othello isn't black ?

>> No.749313

>>749311
He was a Moor. Therefore, probably of Arabic skin tone

>> No.749314

I really enjoyed A Gathering of Old Men. Its use of dialect in characterisation is brilliant.

>> No.749315

>>749311
Yeah. He's black. And Italian. In an age before America even existed.

>> No.749332

>>748982
Because the races have different cultures.

>> No.749346

Roll Of Thunder, Hear My Cry
by
Mildrid D. Taylor

>> No.749353

>>748977
You got to be fucking kidding me. The guy's French, and 3/4 white.

>> No.749672

Puškin was kinda nigger...

>> No.750096

I did not know that niggers could type,much less read.

>> No.750125

>>748982
Fuck you.
White people are from more places than just Europe.
Motherfucking Russia is only partly in Europe, and Australia damn sure isn't. And neither is South Africa, for that matter.

>> No.750130

>>750125
Australians - europe australians
russians who live anywhere - fags.

>> No.750132

>>750125
>Australia
>South Africa
I lol'd

>> No.750134

How about "The Color of Water" by James McBride
He's technically only half black; his mother was jewish.

It was one of the best non-classic books I read in highschool.

>> No.750136

Literature of a Negro origin - how about that?

>> No.750144

As a European I would now like to see one for postcolonial literature. It seems to be very interesting but I don't quite know where to start.

>> No.750152

>postcolonial literature
would be worth making this.
White Teeth by Zadie Smith is my suggestion.

>> No.750155

>>750152
>>750144
Something by Edward Said would have to feature.

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>>750144

>> No.750172

>>750155
As would
Coetzee, Forster, Rushdie, Arundhati Roy, kureishi, Naipaul, Vikram Seth, Kipling
maybe?

>> No.750174

>>750155
>>750161
:D

>> No.750176

Gibt es dies, aber fur Deutsch?

>> No.750177 [DELETED] 

>>750155
>>750161
Said on my reading list and I've read so postcolonial theory already, but what I'd really like to see is fiction.

>> No.750183

>>748987
>The Lord Of The Rings

You actually paid for that?

>> No.750185

>>750155
>>750161
Said's on my reading list and I've read some postcolonial theory already, but what I'd really like to see is fiction.
>>750172
I'll look into that.

Now, how about we make an image for it all?

>> No.750187

>>750176
I thought there was one for German lit posted a few months back. Think krautchan has it somewhere.

>> No.750190

>>750185
need to collect some actual titles first....

>> No.750196

So... are there any other lists of various national/continental/whatever authors?

>> No.750226

>>750196
We're working on it.

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Today's African Proverb:
If you see someone riding a log, tell him what a beautiful horse.

>> No.750251

amiri baraka fucking sucks


A Poem for Speculative Hipsters
Amiri Baraka

He had got, finally,
to the forest
of motives. There were no
owls, or hunters. No Connie Chatterleys
resting beautifully
on their backs, having casually
brought socialism
to England.
Only ideas,
and their opposites
Like,
he was really
nowhere.

>> No.750273

>>750152

This is a Colonialism & Post Colonialism list:

Orientalism by Edward W. Said
Black Skin, White Masks by Frantz Fanon
White Teeth by Zadie Smith
In the Eye of the Sun by Ahdaf Soueif

Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
A Passage to India by E.M. Forster
A Suitable Boy by Vikram Seth
Burmese Days by George Orwell
The Glass Palace by Amitav Ghosh
Love in a Blue Time by Hanif Kurieshi

Can someone make an image? Subheading: The Empire writes back.

Incomplete list btw - if someone can contribute that would be great :)

>> No.750305

>>750273
add:
Waiting for the Barbarians by J. M. Coetzee
A Bend in the River by V. S. Naipaul
Seamus Heaney - some collected editions

>> No.750366

>>750305
>>750273
Bump. I hope someone does this.

>> No.750370

>>750273
>>750305
problem /lit/?
never heard of most these books huh?

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>>750187

Found it! Thanks, man. Didn't even know that place existed. I'll be trollin there now for sure!

>> No.750539

>>750273

The White Tiger and The God of Small Things are two more that I feel can be added to the list.

>> No.750543

>>750513
Titles in original German... I hate these things.

>> No.750554

>>750539
White Tiger sucked hard - try Vikram Chandras Sacred Games, does everything better.

>> No.750557

>>750543
google translate?

>> No.750561

>>750554

Mind going a little further than 'it sucks'?

>> No.750578

>>750554
hmmm lets see. I guess I just didn't like it. It pandered to a western audience too much; to the degree where it explained many 'foreign' things in detail rather than just assuming the audience was mildly intelligent.

Also the other driver always just happened to be at the same places where the protagonist was; always on hand to explain what was going on - it just didn't work for me.

Like I said I'd recommend Sacred Games - it's long but it goes quick and you'll learn a lot about 'modern' India by the end. Also the plot is excellently woven.

>> No.752177

bump - image plox

>> No.752216

>>750513
No Juenger?

>> No.752246

>>749159
"Their Eyes were Watching God" can go suck a yam

>> No.752258

wow, no mention of octavia butler. Her subject matter is a bit hard to read through, but damn it all if she isn't a good writer, my goodness

>> No.752260

>Dumas
>African literature
Holy fucking shit, /lit/...

>> No.752262

>>752258
I wish more people suggested more authors.

>> No.752263

Yes its African-American, just like its Asian-American, Indigenious-American, and Latino-American...these groups are treated differently both institutionally and personally on a group and individual level than mainstream (read:white) Americans, so the hyphen is justified

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we president now

>> No.752324

>>752320

C'mon /lit/, you're better than this. Leave this bullshit for /new/.

>> No.752418

>>752263
this is why the usa sucks bump

>> No.752422

>>752324
We are, but I couldn't help but have a little laugh

>> No.752427

Ten little And then there were none

>> No.752435 [DELETED] 

>>750273
>No pre-colonial list

>> No.752436

>>750273
>No pre-colonialism list

>> No.752445

fredrick douglass, incidents in the life of a slave girl, of one blood, uncle tom's cabin (may not want to include this one as it was actually written by a white activist)

>> No.752447

>>752427
it's
one little indian out lookin for the sun
at six o'clock the moon came out, then there were none.

>> No.752451

>>752445
Uncle Tom's Cabin is some racist shit. Very funny, though--I mean parts like little Eva's death.

>> No.752454

>>752436
Suggest some - I'm no expert.

>> No.752478

>>749159
I appreciate the effort, but I think this chart sucks. First of all, the Black Power fist--not all books written by 'black-skinned' authors express those ideas. Richard Wright, for example, would want nothing to do with any sort of racial provincialism/separatism, even though he is possibly the author who coined the term "Black Power"--however, in a sense completely different from what Stokely Carmichael would mean later.

As for the content--I don't think mixing African American, Carribean and African writers is a good idea. I believe a separate chart should be made for black American and postcolonial African novelists (the latter including Achebe, Emecheta, etc.). Also, why is everything so mixed up - slave narratives and contemporary novels? Don't those charts usually involve some sort of chronological order? Also, the chart is painfully small and arbitrary. Like, why Song of Solomon and not Beloved, or The Bluest Eye? I'm not saying the chart is completely useless--there's some great stuff--but it makes little sense, and we should do another one.

>> No.752669

>>752478
help us make a new one. Start with a list with the heading you suggest and add some books - the image can be made later. These lists are in no way definitive.

>> No.753256

bump

>> No.753290

>>749229
He was mixed, but he took pride in his roots:

>"My father was a mulatto, my grandfather was a Negro, and my great-grandfather a monkey. You see, Sir, my family starts where yours ends."

>> No.753436

>>752669
Hey, I'm the >>752478 person again. I don't know too much about African literature but here's a list of my (I admit it, rather obvious and arbitrary) suggestions for an African American lit chart.
Starting with some slave narratives: "The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano, or Gustavus Vassa, the African" (it's usually classified as African American lit, so...), "Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass, an American Slave", "Incidents in the Life of a Slave Girl"... umm... possibly "The Narrative of Sojourner Truth", but not necessarily.
Then:
DuBois' "Songs of Black Folk"
Maybe some Harlem Renaissance poetry like Langston Hughes or McKay or Cullen, unless the chart is for novels only (then I'd include Hughes' autobiography The Big Sea anyway).
Toomer's Cane
Nella Larsen's Passing or Quicksand
Zora Neale Hurston's Their Eyes Were Watching God, but I guess her other work also deserves at least a mention, particularly Mules and Men. My personal favorite is Moses, Man of the Mountain, but I guess it's not as important.
George Schuyler's Black No More for some hilarious yet forgotten sci-fi/satire
Richard Wright's Native Son and Black Boy are a must! I'd also include his underrated Outsider and Eight Men and travel writings (one of them is actually called Black Power) but that's probably only because I'm so much in love with Wright ^ ^
Ellison's Invisible Man
James Baldwin! Go Tell It on the Mountain and, if we include essays, the books Notes of a Native Son and Nobody Knows My Name. Possibly other novels (Giovanni's Room?)... or other books of essays; Baldwin is the shit (again, another favorite)
Toni Morrison - I'd include pretty much everything ^ ^ I guess Beloved is a must, possibly Sula and The Bluest Eye

>> No.753438

HOLY SHIT OP!
I came onto /lit/ with the intention of asking if there is a French Literature classics picture, but by offering the Russian Literature classics!

Merci beaucoup :D

>> No.753440

>>753436 continued

Gloria Naylor's Linden Hills and The Women of Brewster Place
Alice Walker's The Color Purple probably should be included, since it's her most famous/controversial novels, but she's written some arguably better stuff, such as The Third Life of Grange Copeland or Meridian
Haley's Roots; Malcolm X's biography
Maya Angelou's autobiographies... particularly the first volume, I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings... though my favorite is the far less depressing All God's Children Need Traveling Shoes
Some Black Arts poetry maybe? Like Baraka, Sanchez, Giovanni?
If we include plays, then definitely George C. Wolfe's The Colored Museum. Also, Ntozake Shange's For Colored Girls...Kelley's A Different Drummer
Wideman's Two Cities
Terry McMillan's Waiting to Exhale (shut up, she is awesome)
Finally, Zane's erotica

As I said, this list includes mostly pretty obvious picks, but that's the idea, right? What do you guys think?

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>>753440
Also, seconding Octavia Butler.
Oh, and Obama should be included. I think Dreams From My Father is a pretty awesome book.

>> No.753451

Can you post the Russian classics one? I'd like to see it.

>> No.753459

>>753446
>>I think Dreams From My Father is a pretty awesome book.

Considering Bill Ayers wrote it...

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>>753451

>> No.753471

>>753446

Seconded.

>> No.753475

I think this is kinda fun. After 2 days no one really helped me and now someone is making a list. Thanks /lit/

>> No.753480

>>753459
Even if it's true, it's still a really good book. Death of the author and all that.

>> No.753499

>>753475
List person here; I haven't been around much in the past few days, otherwise I'd have broken the initial racist combo... ;)

>> No.753556

>>753446
second...god I miss her, I want more of the fledging series

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753585

bump!

>> No.753599

>>753585
:3

>> No.753610

So is someone making a new one now?

>> No.753631

>>753440
>>753436
>>750305
>>750273
image time i think. version1 anyway
come on image skills people.

>> No.753854
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bump

>> No.753860

>>753585
damn she pretty

>> No.753875

Is there a chart of general recommended reading?

>> No.754024
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>>753875

>> No.755265

Bump, we need to get this done

>> No.755357

Is someone doing this, or should I?

>> No.755432

>Black Literature

>Alexandre Dumas

Seriously?

His grandmother was of mixed French-Creole ancestry, meaning he probably has less than 1/16th part black ancestry. By such measures, there's so many white-skinned "blacks" that it just doesn't mean anything.

Plus, these lists are not meant to cut across ethnic groups, because it's very simple to see, with such examples as the fact that Obama is called black, that perception is skewed.

These lists are much better seen as cutting along _cultures_, because that's what makes art different. African Americans obviously have cultural elements that warrant a list like this, but dumping anything written by people with a drop of black ancestry from everywhere in the world is wet turd. Better have a list for Black Americans, Black British, etc.

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755481

Alright, I'll dump all the ones I have momentarily

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Thousands of replies
No Mingus

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755885

Bump?

Also, thanks for saying this, >>755432, Anon.

>> No.756062

So, is anyone going to do this? I was wondering about a list of possible headings but I guess it wouldn't be very informative or useful to divide it into things like Slave Narratives, the Harlem Renaissance, Black Arts etc. With slave narratives it would be plain redundant, since most of the (looooong) titles include the words "slave" and "narrative" anyway ;) Then, how does one classify writers like DuBois or Schuyler? Or Richard Wright, for that matter? So it would probably be best to arrange them in a vaguely chronological order or by genre, if we include something else than novels.

>> No.756079

Read some Octavia Butler, didn't like very much.

I'm mostly in to Sci-Fi, black authors not that common.

>> No.756093

>>748860
>le petit prince
>not Citadel

>no Kundera

>> No.756100

>>756093
Darling, we're discussing black American lit here... :)

>> No.756113

>>756093
And also, since I'm from Central Europe...
>Kundera
>French

I know you have your reasons, I just had to do it.

>> No.757249

bump, dammit!

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>>748857

"w" + "e" - "e" + "w" + "y" - "y" + "w" + "b" - "b" + "." + "e" - "e" + "a" + "g" - "g" + "n" + "v" - "v" + "o" + "n" - "n" + "n" + "u" - "u" + "t" + "n" - "n" + "a" + "l" - "l" + "l" + "u" - "u" + "k" + "c" - "c" + "." + "l" - "l" + "s" + "y" - "y" + "e" + "j" - "j"

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>>748859

"w" + "u" - "u" + "w" + "h" - "h" + "w" + "j" - "j" + "." + "o" - "o" + "a" + "m" - "m" + "n" + "h" - "h" + "o" + "g" - "g" + "n" + "r" - "r" + "t" + "u" - "u" + "a" + "s" - "s" + "l" + "q" - "q" + "k" + "l" - "l" + "." + "y" - "y" + "s" + "u" - "u" + "e" + "c" - "c"

>> No.757281 [DELETED] 

>>748857

"w" + "o" - "o" + "w" + "r" - "r" + "w" + "h" - "h" + "." + "l" - "l" + "a" + "b" - "b" + "n" + "k" - "k" + "o" + "f" - "f" + "n" + "v" - "v" + "t" + "s" - "s" + "a" + "j" - "j" + "l" + "j" - "j" + "k" + "d" - "d" + "." + "z" - "z" + "s" + "p" - "p" + "e" + "u" - "u"

>> No.757492

Fucking spam!
Chartfags, where are you?

>> No.757709

Never ask for a 'black coffee' -- the correct term is 'African-Americano'

>> No.757723

>>757709
>implying Americano is coffee

>> No.757747

>>757723
think it was a joke.

>> No.757752

>>757747
now the blind can laugh, too

>> No.757773 [DELETED] 

>>748859

"w" + "l" - "l" + "w" + "c" - "c" + "w" + "r" - "r" + "." + "s" - "s" + "a" + "c" - "c" + "n" + "u" - "u" + "o" + "g" - "g" + "n" + "p" - "p" + "t" + "t" - "t" + "a" + "j" - "j" + "l" + "m" - "m" + "k" + "y" - "y" + "." + "e" - "e" + "s" + "m" - "m" + "e" + "i" - "i"

>> No.757806

>>757752
Now I'm confus

>> No.757852

Claude McKay's books. They're good stories but I got too frustrated by having to decipher the dialects to ever finish one of his books.

>> No.758984

>>755357
Do it please no one else is.

>> No.758992

http://hubpages.com/hub/Top-10-Novels-Ive-Read

>> No.759161
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759161

>> No.760477

bump

>> No.760498
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>African American
>literature

already been said, but I feel like it should be said again.

>> No.760507
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760507

>>760498

>> No.760510

>>760507

AMEN.

Let's try to make /lit/ the one fucking non-racist board on 4chan. Now THAT would be a fucking accomplishment!

>> No.760752
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760752

I second this >>758984
and this >>759161 (and yet, I am bumping with Alice Walker!)
and this >>760507
and this >>760510
So, is one of you chartfags going to make this one?

>> No.760777

See I'm a mean nigga
Youse a friend nigga
Ol' pretend nigga
Smile and grin nigga
I hate a false niggas
Diana Ross nigga
So if ya lost nigga
Meet tha boss nigga
He's a super nigga
Grin and groupa nigga
Act stupid nigga
I'll fuckin' nuke a nigga
'cause youse a happy nigga
And ima nappy nigga
Fuckin' scrappy nigga
Meet ya pappy nigga
Its ice cube nigga
And lil jon nigga
So if ya drunk nigga
Keep it crunk nigga
Til' you punk nigga
Feel tha bump nigga
Get yo testifying ass in tha trunk nigga
You wanna tell nigga
I'll dump a shell nigga
Send a frail nigga
Straight to hell nigga
Thats ya shelter nigga
Helt-a-skelta nigga
And when I belt a nigga
God help a nigga
They'll know nigga!

>> No.760819

>>760777
Solid gold, brother!

>> No.760841

HAHAHAHAHA! BALZAC!!!

>> No.760849

Fuck yeah, Toni Morrison is awesome

>> No.761211

where are you chartfags?

>> No.761325
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761325

I gave it my best effort.

>> No.761374

>>761325
thats not bad

someone do one for colonial/post-colonial /lit/>>750273>>750305 and/or
>>753436
>>753440


also could someone make a guide showing how to make charts in the simplest way?

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>>750513
>World War I
>No All Quiet on the Western Front
>My face

>> No.761393

>>761387
>GERMAN literature.
>dipshit.

>> No.761398

>>761393
Erich Remarque WAS German dipshit

>> No.761399

AS A MAN OF COLOUR I DO NOT WANT TO BE ARBITRARILY GROUPED WITH PEOPLE THAT I HAVE LITTLE IN COMMON WITH OTHER THAN RACE AS IF WE WILL ALL SHARE A LITERARY IDEAL

FUCK.

>> No.761403

>>761399
Too bad.

>> No.761406

>>761399
>african-american
>american

>MAN OF COLOUR
>coloUr

this ain't about you.

>> No.761411

>>761399
You do share a common literary ideal. Look at how many of those books are about the suffering of your race.
BOOOOOOOOO-RIIIIIIIING

>> No.761424 [DELETED] 

someone should create a blogspot for all these essential lists.

/mu/ has one on blogspot, http://mu-essentials.blogspot.com/

>> No.761429

someone should create a blog for all these essential lists.

/mu/ has one on blogspot, http://mu-essentials.blogspot.com/

>> No.761445

>>761429
I think there is one already - link anyone?

>> No.761471

>>761445

lit-essentials.blogspot.com

hasn't been updated in awhile.

>> No.761634
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>>761325

WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK IS "BLACK PEOPLE LITERATURE"? I thought we'd decided not to group African Americans and Africans. Also, "I could go on but why bother... you get it"? Sorry, Anon, I don't. Get what? That black-skinned people can write? And the chart is supposed to prove a point rather than, as the other charts attempt to, list the essentials of the literature of a certain group of people?

"Why bother?" Because someone wanted to know more about the canon of African American literature. And then more people agreed it was needed on this board. "Why bother?" Fuck, chartfag, are you kidding me?

>> No.761637

>>761634

I like Native Son. It's swell.

>> No.761643

>>761634
Niggers and women cannot into book.

>> No.761646

>>761643

Like a drawstring lamp?

>> No.761652

>>761643
I thought you were better than this /lit/ :|

>> No.761655

>>761637
No idea why you chose to respond to my post this way but check out his other writings, especially the short story "Man of All Work"... it will surprise you.

>> No.761659

>>761655

Ralph didn't care much for Richard. I think he thought Native Son was negative or something.

>> No.761662

>>761652

>implying it is bad, wrong or unreasonable to be racist and sexist

>> No.761664

>>761659
Wait, what? How is this relevant?

>> No.761669

>>761655

I think I read that. I think. I remember reading a story of his and it was quite violent and what not. Can't really remember, but it was pretty good.

>> No.761678

>>761669
All of his stories are violent.
Not all involve crosdressing.

>> No.761711

>>750273
you need to add portrait of a youg artist by joyce, its the first in postcolonial

>> No.761719

>>761711
>portrait of a youg artist
Make an effort please.

>> No.761721

>>761719
Nobody in this thread made any effort, that's why it went to shit. Two half-assed attempts at a chart? Nigga puh-lease.

>> No.761724

>>761721

effort?
>>750273
>>750305
>>753436
>>753440

>> No.761731

what if he is dyslexic and even here on this anonymous board he cant get a break. and he was about to go to college, but this final affront took what was left of his confidence. now a lost soul he will work menial jobs for 20 years and marry a woman he does not love to have kids that he hates, only to end it all in murder suicide.

>> No.761735

>>761731
wat

>> No.761742

>>761731
this meant for this,
>>761719

>> No.761749

>>761742
oh, in that case I do apologize.
It would be interesting to hear about your dyslexia and your reading.

>> No.761772

>>761731
sorry dude/lady but 4chan is anonymous so attracts the dregs of society who say things here they wouldn't in everyday life.

>> No.761781

>>761749
ok well ive read cities of the palin by mccarthy (not at all what i thought it was going to be about)
plaque by camus
for whom the bell trolls by hemmingway (surprisingly modern)
souls of black feet by du bois

>> No.761791

>>761781
>souls of black feet
I suddenly love you.

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>>748860
please stop trying

>> No.761809

>>761795
imagine if Obama had stopped trying

>200 posts
:-)

>> No.761852

>>761809
i hope your joking....

>> No.761862

hey could i get a white guy literature chart
>>754024
oh there it is

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762495

>>761862
the first 3 fucking books on that list aren't by white guys.

>> No.762499

>>762495
>implying Cervantes wasn't a white guy

>> No.762521

>>762499
>implying that Hispanic people are white

>> No.762532

>>762521
Spanish people are Caucasian and are white. Stop thinking about Mexicans who are Spanish/Indian.

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762541

>>762521
>implying that anybody is actually white

>> No.762556

>>762532

Hispanics are from the Americas, stupid, not Hispania.

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>>762556
not the same guy but are you now saying cervantes was an american?

>cervantes was not white
>because hispanic people aren't white
>hispanic people are from the americas

ergo
>cervates was from the americas


my face

>> No.762567

>>749159
Dumas was black?! Holy shit! Mind=blown

>> No.762569

>>762556
Point? Cervantes was Spanish.

>> No.762570

>>762567
He wasn't. Not really.

>> No.762571

>>762532
>>761862
>>762499
>>762532
>>762556
>implying race even matters and that /lit/ wasn't just looking for a way to categorize literature in a way similar to the Russian or French lists.

>> No.762584

Mexicans are white.

>> No.762588

>>762584
They are orange.

>> No.762591

>>762571
SAGE FOR NIGGERLOVER.

>> No.762596

>>762584
They have Indian blood.

>> No.762617

>>762571
this is the truth. there is some good in /lit/ after all.

>> No.762630

Thanks for your request.
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This thread has been requested 1 times now.

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>> No.764122

Alright OP here. Since no one has really done this list justice I will have a go at it again, So first I was thinking about what one annon said about sepreating it by slave narrative and then to Harlem Renaissance. So the sub topics were going to be Slave Narratives, Harlem Renaissance but what should I have next?

>> No.764152

Bump

>> No.764194

What is the best book by Octavia Butler?

>> No.764255

>>748982

because in america we have to put up with liberal children and their political correctness.

>> No.764261

>>764122

civil rights era then contemporary

>> No.764311
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The black literature list so far....... It seems no one cares anymore :(

>> No.764323

>>764311
Holy crap yesssss good work!

>> No.764329

>>764311

dude /lit/ is super slow at night. continue it tomorrow when god pays attention.

>> No.764460

>>764311
This looks promising! Finally, someone who cares! <3

>> No.764473

Also, I was wondering about the headings. I'm not sure it what >>764261 wrote is right--that is to say, whether the Civil Rights era can be said to have directly followed the Harlem Renaissance. For example, how do you classify Richard Wright, the major writer of the 1940s? He's clearly neither: too late for and highly critical of the Harlem Renaissance which he hated for the writers' alleged pandering to whites and yet too early for (and also somewhat dismissive of) the Civil Rights. I had a look at Gates and McKay's seminal Norton Anthology but what I found does not seem very satisfying. Still, have a look at how they solved the problem:
"Slavery and Freedom: 1746-1865
Reconstruction: 1865-1919
Harlem Renaissance: 1919-1940
Realism, Naturalism, Modernism: 1940-1960
Black Arts Movement: 1960-1970
Since 1970."

>> No.764505
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764505

Done!

>> No.764506

>>764311
Frederick Douglas looks like a black Karl Marx and W.E.B. Du Bois looks like a black Lenin.

>> No.764508

>>764505
Wow, this actually happened. Thank you so much.

>> No.764510

>>764505
231 posts later! THANK YOU.

>> No.764513
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>>764510
>>764508
>>764506
I am happy that you guys didn't just trolling the thread ,but were awaiting action.

>> No.764521

>>764513
Damn Walt, you pimpin'.

>> No.764529

>>764505
Oh wow, this looks pretty cool. The two things I don't like are:
1) the headings - I've already voiced my doubts in this post >>764473 but okay, that's not all that important.
2) THE GAPING HOLE BETWEEN DUBOIS AND BOOKER T -- WTF? There were other black writers at that time, you know, and some of them are really worthy of attention! I suggest Paul Laurence Dunbar's poetry and Chesnutt's Conjure Woman. Actually, go read "The Passing of Grandison" by Chesnutt, it's an awesome story.
Anyway, thank you, chartfag!!! <3

>> No.764531

>>764529
Sorry I couldn't find anything during reconstruction and no one really mentioned anything.

>> No.764543

>>764531
Well, I hope you can fix it :) There were quite a lot of writers, in fact--apart from Dunbar and Chesnutt, James Weldon Johnson ("Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing", anyone?), Sutton Griggs, William Wells Brown...

>> No.764567

>>750273
>>750305
someone do this one now, or do we need a new thread?

>> No.764605

>>764567
I thought we did?

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>> No.764906

Someone should do one for British literature. Fuck the French.

>> No.765658

>>764906
would need one for each decade

>> No.766232

>>764886
Yes, this is an excellent book... :)
Chartfag, are you still there to fix your chart a little?

>> No.766339

>>766232
we have Chartfags now? wut?

>> No.766417

>>766339
Well, why not?

>> No.766437

>>766417
I dunno
the fags suffix can be applied to anything I guess.

>> No.766443
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766443

>>764886
>>766232
It is already there
>>764543
Fixed just not too pretty :(

>> No.766482

>>766443
It's a nice chart :)

>> No.766510

>>764194
Kindred

>> No.766646

>>766443
some covers are incredibly hard to read
why so narrow?

>> No.768585

>>766646
This is true. Also, what's that "The Blacker the Berry" book? Some collection for children?

>> No.768624

Is there a list for latin literature?

>> No.768643 [DELETED] 

lulz i found sum child porn featuren christopeher pooolar bear hearways :tinyurl dawt com / 39poqjq d42797b12b0082f50439e4b6080de854

>> No.768880

>>766443
image need to be bigger is size - can't read some of them titles.

>> No.768915

its pretty damn racist to seperate books because of the race the author was.
if african american authors aren't good enough to equal other classics why should they be treated as great?

>> No.768934

>>768915
point has been addressed - read the thread

>> No.769006

>>768915
it's pretty damn herp to separate books because of derp

>> No.769025

>>768915
>>766976

>> No.769719

>>768915
this isn't race, it's ethnicity
it's african american, which means that they are people with a common history

>> No.769809

>>769719
Well, one could argue with that "common history" claim for sure :) The discussion as to the meaning of race, ethnicity, the implications of the term "African American" could go on forever, but /lit/'s objective was to make a simple chart to guide readers of fiction by black Americans. Quite possibly so that we ourselves could try to figure out to what extent these classifications make sense.

>> No.769835

>>769809
this is 4chan, stop making sense :D

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>>769835

>> No.769864

>>748860

Is there an Irish one of these?

>> No.769866

>>769844
:3

>> No.769876

>>769864
If there isn't--another challenge coming up, /lit/!

>> No.769890

>>769876
Im Irish, i was just wandering if there was any good irish authors.

>> No.769893

>>769890
>wandering

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>>769864
Here it is.

>> No.769911

>>769904
Do you know any others that wrote good books.

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>>769911

>> No.769932
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Brian Friel. But hey, let's make a separate thread.

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769951

>>764505
>Barap Obongbo

>> No.769960

>>769890
There are many