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Just finished this beautiful baby, can we have a discussion about it without descending into doubles?

What was your favorite chapter? I was surprised how much the "Girls" series made me wince, Ellis is a fantastically disgusting writer. He's a fantastic writer in general, IMO. One of my favorite motifs was how the detailed and literal accounts of torture, rape and murder were contrasted with the detailed descriptions of people's outfits and gadgets.

Anything else by Ellis that's worth checking out?

>> No.7485754
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>>7485740
Killing the Queen's dog.
My favorite part

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OP is either b8 or a child.

>mfw can we have a discussion about it without descending into doubles

>> No.7485792

the movie was better.

now fuck off

>> No.7485823

>>7485740
>He's a fantastic writer in general, IMO.
If you don't read much, I guess.

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>>7485740
>Anything else by Ellis that's worth checking out.

>> No.7485830

I gravitated towards the more comedic chapters like "Another Night" or "Christmas Party".

The only Ellis book I haven't read is Imperial Bedrooms (which I plan to start in the coming days after finishing 2666) and I'd say really the only other ones worth checking out are Less Than Zero and Rules of Attraction. LTZ is just a fantastically moody meditation on ennui and the hollow lives of children of broken homes and RoA is just such a fucking fun book about falling in and out of love in college.

The Informers is alright but beyond plain.
Glamorama is a repetitive mess with some redeemable moments (the plane explosion was fucking great).
Lunar Park starts off with a cool concept but devolves into a pure mess.

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>>7485823
Or u tho

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>>7485833
Say that to my patrician literature, plen.

>> No.7485846

American Psycho is like 2 pages of intense gory brutal shit spread out by 130 pages of descriptions of clothing

>> No.7485847

>>7485740
his podcast is pretty fucking amazing

http://www.podcastone.com/Bret-Easton-Ellis-Podcast

>> No.7485854

>>7485846
More like 20 pages of intense gory shit spread out by 380 pages of descriptions of clothing.

I like it but fuck it really could have lost a good hundred pages.

>> No.7485920

>>7485854
IMO reading through the detailed descriptions of clothing helped me to really sink into the kind of insanity that was occurring in the latter part of the book. Like I said it seems to mirror his accounts of the tortures.

>> No.7486148

>>7485842
if you boast about reading any book, you are definitively plebeian

>> No.7486158

>>7486148
Isn't the whole point of being a Patrician that you're an insufferable wank stain?

>> No.7486172

Did anyone else find the droning descriptions of clothes and otherwise to be super comfy?

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>>7486158
No, it's when people just assume you have read everything and that you have something new and interesting to say about each.

>> No.7486182

>>7486173
I don't understand on these memes why they include captions. idgaf if you are "screaming," and some of these would be funny if that was not also included.

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>>7486182
They? Das raycist. We. It be we. Stand together, fight the power, caption yo menes & SMASH DAT LIKE BUTTON #REALNIGGAHOURS

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>>7485740

My favorite chapter would have to be the one where Bateman is getting chased by the police. It's tense and disorienting, especially when it changes to third-person. The description of Bateman cowering in his office while police sirens sound off in the distance and the rising sun shines through is window is fucking amazing. It captures just how deranged and putrid of a human being Bateman is.

>> No.7486250

>>7485833
>>7486173
>>7486207
>ebin black twiiter mmes XD
You're not funny and it would be appreciated if you'd stop.

>> No.7486261

>>7486250
So sincere. It's great! :')

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The chapter near the end where Bateman does a bunch of weird shit while he and his girlfriend are staying at a beach house. The detail about him eating the jellyfish and throwing up in vases around the house is memorable in a surreal way.

The entirety of American Pyscho is pretty surreal when you get down to it. It's essentially a character study of someone who has no character to speak of; I can't think of many other books that have attempted that. Every sentence and detail in the book reiterates how hollow and pathetic Bateman is. He's like an alien in how nothing pleases or stimulates him. I'm inclined to say that he's literally in hell. Considering his whole life is completely miserable in every way, that doesn't seem that unreasonable of a conclusion to reach. Bateman is like a Kafka protagonist, only his punishment is completely deserved.

>Him murdering people is meaningless because it doesn't make him feel anything and nobody notices anyways
>Sex is meaningless too because he doesn't derive any pleasure from the fucked-up sadomasochistic shit he does
>He doesn't do any work at his job so all of his days are spent eating food he dislikes with people he dislikes
>All of his fellow yuppies are just as vapid as him and he hates them and himself for it
>Always on the verge of a complete meltdown from a combination of insanity and being hopped up on drugs
>He has no real friends or anyone to confide in; no one listens to anything he says; he is, for all purposes, completely alone
>Shows all non-yuppies he meets complete disdain and they eventually start to return the favor as the book goes on; no one outside of his circle likes him
>Has reached the peak of masculine perfection and has a cushy high-paying job, meaning he has nowhere else to go in life and as such has no ambitions
>Tries to distract himself from his nightmare existence by obsessing over asinine bullshit like clothing and material furnishings, but it doesn't work
>Has no way of escaping the yuppie life and wouldn't know how to even if he tried; he lacks the constitution for suicide and no one listens to his confessions

>> No.7486853

What did "This is not an exit" mean?

>> No.7488027

>>7486853
my pain is constant and sharp, and I do not wish for a better world for anyone. I gain no deeper knowledge of myself. This confession has meant nothing.

>> No.7488040

>>7486207
do you have the pie chart one where it says "reasons why I'm single," and the whole chart is 'because I didn't SMASH THAT FUCCN LIKE BUTTON'

please post

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>>7486853
This is not 'he goes'.
This is not 'e goes'.
This is not egos.
Th' is is not egos.

I thought /lit/ was smartish.

>> No.7488376

>>7486853

There's no escape for Patrick. He will always be a shallow yuppie.