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I need advice /lit/...

Should I have sex with a ugly girl just for the sake of my novel?

So I know this girl, she's 19, a 4 or 5/10. Not fat or dwarf or anything like that, she's just ugly. She's a nice person, likes art, likes good music, has a pretty libertine thought, bohemian... You know what I mean. I know she has sexual feelings towards me, since we've gone drinking a couple times and we've ended up making out when I'm totally drunk. She actually told me once "I want to suck your dick". To be honest, I don't have any kind of attraction towards her, it's only when I'm drunk.

Now, here's what I've been thinking about. I the novel I'm writing, the main character engages in friendly, non romantic sexual activity with a girl he knows. I've never had that kind of experience to describe it, and I'd like to make it as realistic as possible. Every feeling, every thought, everything. I was thinking about letting her blow be and giving her oral and maybe even fuck a couple of times to have a good perspective of what I'm trying to describe in my book.

Should I do it?

>pic related, she's wearing the hat.

>> No.7392768

>>7392764
Just rape some pretty girl in an alley.

>> No.7392778

Get into a relationship, realise you love her, then let her go. Live the /Lit/ life.

>> No.7392791

>>7392768
Too complex lol

>>7392778
Already did it, it was horrible.

>> No.7392797

>>7392764
i think you're just looking for an excuse to fuck her without feeling guilty.

which is fine.
do what you wish, friend.

>> No.7392844

>>7392764
one time in undergrad i was writing a novel about a spoiled rich college kid who did a lot of cocaine and went out drinking a lot and liked to have sex with young girls.

i hadn't done cocaine since high school so i decided to get some to refresh my memory.

i did the coke and then totally forgot about writing the book.

moral of the story: eh, there isn't really one. it was a terrible book and i'm better off having not finished it.

>> No.7393093

She looks nice. Fuck her if you want but you don't need to pretend it's for your "novel".
Treat her well though.

>> No.7393104

>>7392764
Casual sex is degenerate and the whole situation you're painting is disgusting.

>> No.7393106

5 is average
Ugly would be 1 - 3

>> No.7393118

>>7393093
>>7392797
These.
There's a way to go about these things without being unnecessarily unpleasant. If you kind of want to have sex with her, then do it but be clear about what the sex is to you. She's a person, so treat her with respect.

>>7392844
I laffed

>> No.7393128

>>7392844

Oh you degenerate

>> No.7393209

>>7393106
>Not being triggered by this
1 is the worst and 10 is the best. How the fuck can a 5 count as ugly? I feel like anyone saying a 5 is ugly failed high school math. A 5 should logically be just average, nothing special.
I get mad when someone says a film was really bad and then rated it 5/10.

>> No.7393210

>>7392844
>to refresh my memory
>forgets the novel completely

>> No.7393213

>>7392764
She Asian?

>> No.7393215

>>7392764
Are you by any chance Swedish?

>> No.7393216
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7393216

>>7393213
Not OP, but I'm pretty sure this picture was taken in Finland.

So yes.

>> No.7393226

>>7393216
Hahaha nice one

>> No.7393264

>>7392764
If you're not creative enough to guess what that would be like without hands on experience, then you need to be doing something more than fucking your ugly friend.

>> No.7393267

>>7393209
I suppose if we say '5' is the median score for all movies ever made, and assuming that the ratings system is a reliable measure of your opinions, then it's another way of saying it's a complete waste of time. Because nobody has time to watch even the top 10% of films, let alone the top 50%. In that sense a 5 is pretty bad.

>> No.7393270

Meh. Id hit it.

>> No.7393272

Women are vile. They have poison juices inside of them. Stay pure, anon. Don't let them corrupt you with their juices.

>> No.7393275

When I've fucked girls below my league in the past they have always become clingy and I ended up hurting them and feeling really guilty about it all.

>> No.7393276

>>7393267
Yeah that makes sense.

Like for example Andrei Rublev is a 10 while something like The Godfather is a 5, that is that it's passable in terms of craftsmanship but really turns out to be a waste of your time.

>> No.7393277
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7393277

>>7392764

That's a solid 7 for me

>> No.7393281

>>7392764
Her face is okay, I would openly date/hold hands in public with her if it came to it. Her body on the other hband looks ugly, her head looks larger than her body, look at her legs.

>> No.7393288

>>7392764
she looks better than the other one at least

>> No.7393289

>>7392764
Why do you autists post pictures of people you know in real life here? How do you know there isn't another one of us here who knows her?

>> No.7393290

>>7393289
If i knew her i would take OP'sminfo and seenif i could get my dick sucked, or some smex.

>> No.7393310

Don't worry, OP. I know just what you need to hear.

7:1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

>> No.7393312

>>7392764
if she was good enough for Lennon, she's good enough for you

>> No.7393314
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>>7393312
*GUFFAWS ASIANLY*

>> No.7393319

What the hell man I hope you look like a damn model because I have pretty high standards myself but I wouldn't describe that as 'ugly'. That said, rating is about right, she's a six at most.

I myself am currently leading on a hapless innocent teenage boy for science, I mean, my novel.

>> No.7393327

Hey guys, just wondering: should I marry a woman I don't love and live out a long a miserable marriage with her and watch as our lives fall apart—then have a child together, introducing more misery into our home life, as we pretend we are struggling to get along for our daughter's sake, all the while we are trying to use her against each other, and constantly in fear of the other's influence? Meanwhile her marks in school are plummeting and she suffers from self-esteem problems, and each of us blames the other. But at night, in the dark, I think back to a time when I did love her, and I wonder how we could have become the horrible people we now are—

for my novel, of course.

>> No.7393335

>>7393327
Love is something you have put yourself to work in everyday, it's a continuous sacrifice with no guarantee of reward. Love is not a fuzzy feeling that merely 'exists' before you know a woman that Hollywood loves to exploit.


This text you posted is pure narcissism.

>> No.7393341

>>7393327
yes

women exist only as writing fodder

>> No.7393344

>>7393335
>he doesn't know about the vision of Beatrice

>> No.7393346

>>7393344
That doesn't change anything. You are fucked if you think like that either way.

>> No.7393348

The girl in the hat? She's not even ugly m8. If she's already coming onto you and therefore requires no effort I don't see a downside. Fuck your novel. This is a no-brainer.

>> No.7393352

>>7393335
Sounds like a huge waste of time.

>monogamy
>2015

>> No.7393355
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7393355

>>7393352
Good goy, follow your every whim and desire! The only thing that matters is yourself!

>> No.7393356

>>7393352
It's less about monogamy than about thinking reality is about your 'dreams'.

>> No.7393357

>>7393346
>>7393344

what's the vision of beatrice

learn me im a pleb

>> No.7393358

>>7393348
>I don't see a downside

Hooking up with people who like you more than you like them is a pain in the arse. It sounds like this girl belongs to his social circle and he won't be able to easily rid himself of her afterwards.

>> No.7393359
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7393359

>>7393357
m8, come on

>> No.7393362

>>7393346
>you are fucked dude
>I know because I read one post of yours on the internet

>implying I can't give a better yarn than you on the nature of love
>implying I'm not a devotee of Coventry Patmore

" . . . But you are come
A market-maid to Rome and have prevented
The ostentation of our love, which, left unshown,
Is often left unloved. We should have met you
By sea and land, supplying every stage
With an augmented greeting."

"I kiss my son not only because I love him, but in order that I may love him.”

etc. Love is created and not only felt—love is a continuous and strenuous effort—and so on.

Forgive me for failing on a point of doctrine when I was shitposting, senpai.

>> No.7393365

>>7393346
>if you think like that.


Read the whole post godammit.

>> No.7393367

>>7393358
Not these days m8. Just use a condom. People casually fuck their friends and non-friends all the time.

>> No.7393368

>>7393365
>>7393362

>> No.7393370

>>7393355
>needing a woman as a constant source of validation because your personality is too weak to face life alone

>> No.7393371

>>7393352
polygamy is a meme

>> No.7393375

>>7393370
That is indeed what I think. And I disagree if you think man is strong enough to live without woman.

It's not about validation, though. That's a meme of our time.

>> No.7393378
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7393378

>>7393370
>yeeees goy, love is a social construct and a sign of weakness, monogamy is a lie, everything is about yourself

>> No.7393386

>>7393378
why bring the jews into it?

are you worried that your critique of his post can't stand on its own? there's no need to assume that the tangles and sophistry of the current paideuma were invented with ill intent.

>> No.7393395

>>7393386
>expecting a /pol/tard to have any other reaction besides 'minorities did it!!11'

you're doing the equivalent of trying to argue with a trash can as if it were sentient

>> No.7393399

>>7393378
>being a natalist

>> No.7393403

>>7392764

You're going to trigger so many Kantian moralfags.

>> No.7393519

>>7393370
I hear you brother. Who else here is a strong independent man who don't need no woman?

>> No.7393533
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7393533

>>7393399
>>7393519
>>7393370

>> No.7393536

>>7393357
in Dante. the sight of Beatrice is in some sense an early hint at the beatific vision. some writers, I'm thinking in particular of Charles Williams, have tried to elevate Dante's writing on Beatrice into a coherent theology of love. It may be possible. The idea, in any case, is that the first feeling of love, in the "warm fuzzy" sense (so-called by the vulgar), may be a glimpse of perfection—and that earthly Love can be an ennobling force.

>> No.7393541

mmmmm nineteeeeen

every hole's a hole in one -descartes

>> No.7393542

>>7393533
Yeah. It's Jews telling you to marry and reproduce so you can be a wageslave in their capitalist system, it's Jews telling you to not marry and reproduce because you should live freely, it's Jews telling you to support feminism, and it's Jews telling you that feminism is evil.

IT'S ALL THE JEWS!

It might be more likely that you have a victim complex and want to find some force culpable for all the things going wrong in your life because you can't accept responsibility for your own actions or play with the cards you're dealt.

>> No.7393546

>>7392764
>Should I have sex
No, you shouldn't

>> No.7393547
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7393547

>>7393542

>> No.7393554

>>7392764
Sex is disgusting and your novel is going to be bad whether or not you manipulate this girl.

>> No.7393555

>>7393547
Yes, it's Jews telling you that it's all the Jews while simultaneously telling you that it isn't them!

>> No.7393556

>>7393555
Why are you still arguing with him?

>> No.7393557

>>7392778
thats been me senpai, still hurts

>> No.7393559

>>7393542
fucking jew

>> No.7393573

am I the only one who would rather fuck her hefty friend

>> No.7393589

>>7393573
I'd rather have a threesome with both, if you catch my drift.

>> No.7393603

You don't need to fuck her for your novel, that's ridiculous. Not every experience you write has to be one you've lived yourself. That's what imagination is for. It's not like McCarthy went around skinning apaches for a few years before writing Blood Meridian

>> No.7393671

>>7392764
>>pic related, she's wearing the hat.

oh I thought you were leading up to the one on the right. the one in the hat is cute

>> No.7394624
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7394624

Pic related again, because she actually looks cute in the OP.

And yes, she is indeed asian. Here she looks like a 10 year old though.

>> No.7394630

>>7392764
>I need advice /lit/...
>Should I have sex


Nah, just use your hand.

>> No.7394651
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7394651

>>7392778
why did you post this

>> No.7394653

>>7394624
Don't hurt her.

>> No.7394659

>>7394624
I'd break her in half. Wear her out before break.

>> No.7394660
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7394660

Haven't read the other responses yet, but
if you know she'll not be seriously hurt in the end because nothing more happens, I'd 100% let her blow me. I have much more faps than sex, as I think everybody does, and a new mouth always feels better than your hand that you've greeted a thousand times before.

>> No.7394677

The only problem with drunken ugly dome is that you might have an annoyingly hard time coming, especially if her technique is shit.

Girls who know they're sucking upwards on the social ladder usually suck like champs though.

>> No.7394692

>>7394624

she looks like a nice person. Also I personally find her very attractive, but that's me. Too bad some pseud on /lit/ without any talent is probably going to try and use her.

>> No.7394701

>>7393104
This

>> No.7394771

>>7394624
>>7392764

She really isn't that ugly, very few people would judge you for fucking her, especially if you told them it was for inspiring your book.

Sounds like a BS motivation but either way, go do it. Worse case scenario you have embarrassing sex and write a better book, best case you find she's a nympho and are all the better for doing it.

>> No.7394828

>>7394771
I think she is lower than average looking. But I can turn down sex if offered, especially if drunk. She'd get it until Christmas at least.

>> No.7394836

>>7393272
This

>> No.7394838
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7394838

>>7392764
let her suck you off and return the favor, quit being a fag. You are already doing worse than that by making out with her which feeds her emocional hopes and expectations towards you
> 5/10 lel
Bukowski had it worse

>> No.7394846
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7394846

>>7394828
made me think of pic related desu

>> No.7394853

woops wrong reply
>>7394846
meant for
>>7394836
>>7393272

>> No.7394874

>>7394624
Is this guy you OP?

>> No.7394880

>>7394874
Nah, that guy couldn't turn down that pussy, he'll never be offered again.

>> No.7394883

>>7394624
WAIT A MINUTE

HAS THIS BEEN AN INCREDIBLY SUBTLE TAO LIN THREAD THE WHOLE TIME?!?!?!

>> No.7394896

>>7393555
Sounds like something the Jews would do.

>> No.7394906

>>7394838
He looks so contented.

>> No.7394920

>>7394771
>especially if you told them it was for inspiring your book.

I don't know any normal person who would even say or think something like that. The fact that you think this is something that would just explain everything says a lot about the this board.

>> No.7395182

>>7394920
I think its idiotic, let alone that anyone would be dick-ish enough to try and humiliate someone by making fun of fucking a girl like in OP.

But if you need an excuse, you could explain it authentically enough that it would circumvent some level of embarrassment

>> No.7395263

bump

>> No.7395358

OP clearly just wants to be the kind of person who could so casually have sex and so callously hurt this girl.

Pretty much indicates just how much of spaz virgin he is.

As far as the literary pretensions go, I've never heard a more phony rationalization for shitty behavior.

>> No.7395447
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7395447

>>7395358
This

>> No.7395549

>>7393267
5 is like saying "a lot of people would say she's ugly, but she's ok to me"

>> No.7395680

>>7393542
>not the jews
>jewish psychology

>> No.7396286

>>7394653
Absolutely this. Don't be a terrible person, OP.

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>>7392764

>> No.7396447

>>7396432
?

>> No.7396530

>>7396447
You know what.

>> No.7396808
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7396808

>>7392764
Publish a newspaper ad:
>"Searching for a muse. I need sex for inspiration. 5/10 or lower."

>> No.7396874

>>73968008
Kek. This.

>> No.7396898

>>7396874
>Post not found.

>> No.7397641

>>7393104
Casual sex has always existed and will inevitably keep existing until there's a significant change to human nature. In eras where it was taboo people were more discreet about it, nothing more.

>> No.7398260
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7398260

>>7397641
this

it's probably better to stop caring about everything, including your own existence. you'll feel much better that way.

>> No.7398272

>>7398260
This is true.

Pumping your sour seed down the throat of an eager to please girl looking you right in the eye is one of the better pleasures to be had as well.