/lit/ - Literature

>>7377659
Better Angels

>>7377659

Oh boy here we go
>American Psycho
>The Torture Garden
>Story of the Eye
>The 120 Days of Sodom
>most (all?) of Ryu Murakami's books
>my diary to be honest with you family person

>>7377659
Illuminatus

Most Splatterpunk and/or Bizzaro fiction I've read are pretty fucked up by normal standards. I fucking love it.

>>7377659
Candide

>>7377659

>>7377704
Splatterpunk?

>>7377703
nice

>>7377679

>Story of the Eye

I remember being recommended this book from /b/ about 8 years ago.

I walked into the book store, picked it up, read the first 2 pages, put it down, walked out and have never been able to fully clean myself of it since.

>>7377679
>>7377762
>>7377829
if you thought The Story of the Eye was bad, don't ever touch Hogg

>>7377762
STANDING AT A SWEDISH FESTIVAL
DISCUSSING STORY OF THE EYE
DISCUSSING
STORY OF THE EYE

>>7377659
The God of Small Things

I thought the beginning of Brave New World was pretty gross

>>7377659
Definitely Interview with the Vampire.

>>7377878
Not being ironic, by the way. She toned things waaaayyy down for later novels, but the original is doujinshi-levels of debauched. It's clear that vampirism is a stand in for sex and sexual intimacy (lots of "taking" of bloodmarks) and there's blatant and graphic CP and incest galore.

Does anyone else hate books that rely on edgy shock bullshit? Heroin use, disturbing sex, violence... yawn. Once you've read one, you've read them all. It's practically a genre. Less Than Zero, Hogg, Blood Meridian, all these shiity book synopses I browse on goodreads in the new releases section... they're all the fuckin' same.

>>7377844

It was more the fact that the sort of suggestions were "the curious case of the dog in the nighttime." Or whatever it's called.

I wasn't exactly expecting graphic, incestuous storytelling.

I felt like I had picked up a classified porno, and if anyone in the book store were to find out, I would be removed and ostracized for being such a perverted weirdo reading such things in such a public place.

Hogg was also suggested in that thread, as we're many uneasy books, but was not avaliable in the store to read at the time.

>>7377847
good taste

>>7377922
Bataille went through trials and people proved it wasn't pure smut but that it did have symbolism and whatnot. It's a respected piece of surrealist agitator lit

Hogg on the other hand...yikes

>>7377659
my diary, desu

>>7377912
I liked the painted bird

Atlas Shrugged

Eden, Eden, Eden by Pierre Guyotat

>>7377659
The cement garden.
It's not that disturbing desu.

>>7377789

>>7377694
whats fucked up about illuminatus? for something so flaunting of its raunchiness its pretty dang tame

>>7377704
any bizzaro fiction charts or genre overviews? i'm vaguely interested in the idea of bizzaro fiction but I've yet to see a single book which looked good to me

Here's some naked lunch for you: "Squatting on old bones and excrement and rusty iron, in a white blaze of heat, a panorama of naked idiots stretches to the horizon. Complete silence - their speech centres are destroyed - except for the crackle of sparks and the popping of singed flesh as they apply electrodes up and down the spine. White smoke of burning flesh hangs in the motionless air. A group of children have tied an idiot to a post with barbed wire and built a fire between his legs and stand watching with bestial curiosity as the flames lick his thighs. His flesh jerks in the fire with insect agony."

>>7378649
But i honestly think 120 days of sodom was worse.

>>7377659
Satan Burger.

Not a book, but probably that pasta called The Blowfly or whatever it was. Shit was disgusting

For novels, I guess The Story of the Eye and 120 Days of Sodom. Admittedly I just skimmed them looking for parts to fap to. Doujinshi really desensitizes you to this sort of thing.

The creepypasta about a man who turns his son into a "dog"

Naked Lunch

Crash (the JG Ballard one, vomit-worthy seemingly endlessly repetition of disgusting potential injuries sustained in a car crash that someone then sprays semen all over)

Hogg

literally everything by Peter Sotos

>>7378722
Which Hogg is this?

>>7378506
Fungus of the Heart by Jeremy Shipp is great, it's a short story collection and not very disturbing at all though.

>>7378722
>The creepypasta about a man who turns his son into a "dog"
..?

>>7378757
by Samuel Delany

>>7378722
>the creepypasta about a man in a cell fantasizing about turning the cops that arrested him into "dogs"

>>7378757

Delany.

>"They call me Hogg because a hog lives dirty. I don't wash none. And when I get hungry, I eat my own snot. I been wearin' these clothes since winter. I don't even take my dick out my pants to piss most times, unless it's in some cunt's face. Or all over a cocksucker like you. What I usually do is park the truck in the sun with the light comin' in and piss my pants up somethin' terrible." The truck turned another corner; he dropped one hand from the carpeted wheel between his legs, hefted his meat around some - but I couldn't tell if he was doing it or thinking about it. "Yeah, boy, all that nice hot stuff, running down my leg, and squirmin' my ass around in it...I got worms, boy - had 'em ever since I was a kid. But I won't get rid of 'em cause I like the way they make my asshole itch. I gotta drink a lot of beer and eat a lot of pizza pies and French fried potatoes to keep a gut like this and all them little fuckers fed. I got a hairy ass and it sure cakes up crusty. But I just don't believe in wipin' when I got a freaky little son of a bitch like you to eat it out for me. Now, how do you like that?"

>>7378772
That's fine. I'm not a big fan of the intentionally disturbing. Maybe that sounds ridiculous in context of me looking into bizzaro fiction, but what the hell

I guess the genre seems to me like a platform for absurdist and maybe extreme vulgar/gross out humor. I'll check out the collection though thanks.

Any novels about rapists that redeem themselves in the end somehow?

Anything by Edward Lee (they're pretty bad though).

Gormenghast probably ain't hardcore like these cited before me but it is pretty bizarre.

>>7378849
>Any novels about rapists that redeem themselves in the end somehow?
If you buy the British version.
The American version cuts out the "boys will be boys" ending.

>>7378506
Try anthologies like "the best bizarro fiction of the decade" so you can read samples from the authors and then check out those you'd want to read more from.

I kind of quit 120 days of sodom after she recounted an old man puking in her mouth. I have to get back to that someday.

>>7378887
that's kinda hot

>>7378849
good ole jco

>>7377679
why murakami fucked up?

I only read norwegian wood.

I have dance dance dance and colorles tsukuru tsazaki lying on my floor though

Anything by the Marquis de Sade.

>>7378896
You poor idiot. Haruki Murakami wrote Norwegian Wood, not Ryu Murakami.

>>7378907
fug

>>7377704
Bizzaro is the fucking most idiotic writing ever. Hell, here you go:

"The muffin man made some muffins. And when the kids came around to buy the muffin man's muffins, they asked for his specialty muffin. His specialty muffin was double chocolate muffin with a glaze on top. The kids would flock to the muffin man for those muffins! The whole family would enjoy the muffins! They all ask for the secret recipe, but muffin man doesn't tell his secrets!

But you, dear reader, he will share with. Inside his kitchen, the muffin man works his magic. First, the muffin man takes a commercially-bought muffin mix, puts it into a bowl, takes a steaming, chocolate-colored diarrhea dump into the mix. He then bakes the muffins. When they come out he cums all over the muffins, creating the glaze and completing the muffin. Know you know the muffin man."

There. I made that up right on the spot, and it's better than 82% of all bizzaro. Pay me now.

(Expect to see this story/idea stolen to be included in a future anthology. I know one of you faggots will steal it.)

>>7378916
Some of it is this bad, like Gina Ranalli (probably the worst author I've ever read), but there's some good stuff also.

>>7378921
whats the best bizarro book you've ever read? I've only read Satan Burger.

>>7377659
The Woods are Dark by Richard Laymon (extended edition) is both disturbingly fucked up and disturbingly bad

>>7377659

>>7378313
Came to post this

"Fuck that guy, he's just like the dude who wrote Night"

Yeah, whatever, it's still a terrific book and it is absolutely brutal

>>7377829
"Milk is for the pussy, isn't it?"

>>7378965
It's a bummer that the dude isn't actually a writer because it's really shows in his story, but it does give a very realistic style

This one

They make highschool males read this shit. How fucked up is that.

>>7378849
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

>>7377766
>>7378313
>>7378965
>>7379008
If you liked The Painted Bird you should also check out Steps also by Jerzy Kosinski.
He takes his edgelord act to America in that book (after plenty of fucked up stories about depravity and violence back in Poland)

>>7379036
thanks, I didn't know he wrote another, I'll check it out

>>7378818

K-Kill me.

>>7379339
You liked that, huh?
It's okay, anon. You're among friends.

>>7377659
The Communist Manifesto

>>7378818
Can someone explain this to me?

Has anyone here read Les Chants de Maldoror by Comte de Lautreamont. It is disturbing but also wildly funny at times. At one point, God passes out drunk in a forest and all the people around shit on his chest.

The hunger games

>>7378907
Haruki Murakami's world war 2 scenes in Wind Up Bird are pretty fucked up.

>>7379484
>black science-fiction man writes 220 page novel about an underage child named "cocksucker" who is kidnapped by a man called hogg, who rapes and abuses the captured child for the entire book.

It contained about every fucked up thing you could imagine and its a stupid and pointless as it sounds.

Its like grindcore in novel form.

However, the one funny thing about the novel is watching people try to defend the negro-pediphelia of black science-fiction man as some sort of rebellion against oppression etc. That's always good for a laugh.

>>7377679
Kiddie stuff

The Road by Cormac McCarthy has some pretty unsettling content. Great read though. Also love the vocabulary I gain from reading his books.

Some parts of the Klaus and Lucas trilogy (The Notebook, The Test, The third lie) were pretty crude.
Also that detailed roleplaying manual about raping babies

>>7377847
this is why i read it l m a o

>>7377703
kek

>>7378894
oh my god why would she write that whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>7378849

120 days of Sodom. Fuck my eyes... fucking marchese de sade

>>7377703
>2 bears
>42 lads

>>7378849
Lolita.

>>7381027
how does humbert humbert redeem himself??

>>7381030
He doesn't, I'm talking shit.

>>7381038
>hurr durr I was only pretending to be retarded xD

>>7381042
I'm confessing I am retarded. Please forgive me.

>>7378849
Catcher in the rye.

>>7378783
look on /x/, it might be there somewhere.. or in the archive

>>7379504
Yeah, read it last month.

Really funny (when trying to be dark and tormented), but still very well written.

Wonderful imagery sometimes.

>fucking a shark
>the metamorphosis of Maldoror

>>7380524
>detailed roleplaying manual
Say what, now?

>>7378849
The Threepenny Novel by Brecht, uses a rapist and sort of toys around with the meaning of redemption. Definitely, worth a look.

>>7382233
>>fucking a shark
Oooh, tell me more

>>7382956
The shark and Maldoror recognize in each other "the most cruel living being", each thinking that the other is even more dangerous.

So, they embrace in an unholy union.

All of this happening in a context of storm over a cliff, a boat sinking and people dying, the elements raging yadda yadda.

>>7382956
And this only one event, the Chants are loaded with this kind of thing (God going to see a hooker, how to torture a blond ephebe, bulldog rape, digging graves, etc, etc)

nothing surpasses this

>>7383127
We are already discussing this literally two posts above yours.

And it's hilarious (though brilliant)

Couldn't find a decent picture of the book itself but this man was ahead of his time in terms of degenerate literature.

>>7378887
I recommend Justine or the Misfortunes of Virtue.

>>7383127
Fuck off, try hard pleb

>>7378649
>>7378722
Surprised there's only two mentions of Naked Lunch
>>7380331
If you want to read 600 pages of looking for a lost cat for 5 pages of someone being skinned alive be my guest
>>7380433
The only really fucked up part of the Road is when the dad finds the people in the basement, and even then most of it is left to the imagination.

>>7383005
Don't forget the wonderful description of Maldoror's anus and cock.

This was actually the first /lit/ novella I read.
It's not super disturbing but it's pretty strange.

>>7377912
You know just because a book has heroin violence and sex in doesn't mean it's edgy, there are different ways to handle subjects, and all of those things are frankly facts of life that would only be seen as automatically edgy by a sheltered teenage WASP

B A B Y F U C K E R

>>7378952
motorman is a fantastic book
this is the first time I've seen it posted on /lit/

>>7384477
>The only really fucked up part of the Road is when the dad finds the people in the basement
What about the baby on the spit?

>>7382997
This sounds like something that could happen in Gravity's Rainbow. Might read.

>>7384740
Not that anon, but /lit/ is where I got it from to begin with, so I'm sure it's been talked about

>>7385490
>>7384740
I'm that anon, can't recall where I heard of it but I bought it from SleepingFish.net or something where they had weird literature. Not too shabby of a book, and I think Ohle might be a professor at KU in Lawrence. Tried to read another by him, and just didn't get into it as much.

>>7379504
I read it recently too. It's not really worth it desu, there are some funny bits but mostly gross. He rapes a lot of people

>>7385497
I'm this anon.

>>7383005
>>7383127
The most fucked up scene i remember is when he makes his bulldog rape a little girl, then opens the girl up from her vagina with a metalic Hydra (dagger) then starts removing the girls internal organs from the vagina open gap and makes the dog eat them.
Was actually my favourite book for a very long time.

>>7385829
Yeah, but it is in no way told as a "snuff"

Where can I download History of The Eye in french?

>>7386357
gen.lib.rus.ec/foreignfiction

>>7380900
Remember kids, it's not rape if you know she really wants it.

The Girl Next Door and Let's Go Play At The Adams are two that come to mind and haven't been mentioned before. Both are inspired by the murder of Sylvia Likens which is pretty sickening to read about by itself (and the film version of The Girl Next Door is fucking nasty- especially as it's not filmed like exploitative, Saw-style torture porn).

>Naked Lunch
>Blood Electric
>Wind-up Bird
>Chuck Palanichucks
>American Psycho, I guess I don't think it was really that crazy. When you go into it with the idea of this guys a psychopath the world in which all this stuff happens doesn't come off as unnerving or anything

That's why I included Wind-up it just gave the feeling of creepiness throughout the book because things just weren't 'right'

>>7386438
I'm assuming this isn't the same movie as the one where Emile Hirsch takes a pornstar to the prom?

>>7377923
this for me, though it was interesting

>>7377923

>>7388174
look at all those words vividly describing this character's fucking, some even grounded in visual perception
this shit is imagery and thus illegal, report the publishing house to google

>>7380342
People actually tried to defend this piece of shit? God fucking damn.

Leash, by Jane Delynn, semiotext(e) published it.
it's like the 120 days adapted for lesbian brooklyn yuppies with prolonged bestiality scenes.

>>7377762
I could never stop masturbating long enough to finish it.

>>7378805

Are you sure that's a creepypasta? This is the exact plot of Hubert Selby Jr.'s "The Room" which is indeed the most fucked up thing I have ever read and made me cry.

>>7384932
Not that guy, but I found that part to be needlessly edgy and nonsensical. From what I remember even McCarthy thought it was stupid

The Obscene Bird of the Night
I couldn't manage to finish it. It's not even that drastic, there's just something dark and unsettling about it. Like an unpleasant dream you can't remember.

Also, books filled with obscenity quickly get boring. The seemingly normal ones with unexpected, violent scenes or with depravity casually portrayed on the outskirts of the story are the ones that make a lasting impression.

>>7378702
You don't happen to know where one could read that pasta? Title sounds intriguing.

>>7388209
is that all of it?

what's the rest of it about? i'm probably on enough watchlists without having this happen >>7388174

Currently reading On Heroes and Tombs by Sabato

It's not an extreme like the other ones mentioned, but after a certain point every page drips despair.

I love the scene where Martín talks to the entrepreneur dude who for some reason or another knows Alejandra, which is odd in and of itself given her age, and then decides to hold this long, evasive monologue about societies need for prostitution and Martín feels sick because somehow he begins to realize this has some relation to Alejandras strangeness and her anguished relation to her father.
I'm already aware he fucks her.

>>7377703

>ctr+f "bible"
>would only have had to nudge scroll bar instead

You're making all us nonreligious people look boring.

I get a lot of pleasure from reading works about the darker side of humanity. I intensely dislike the recent trend on 4chan to call everything edgy. Human beings are cruel, savage and wicked and to ignore this is tantamount to insanity. Although I am literally schizophrenic so I am natuarally going to be sympathetic.

>>7388209
whenever i read excerpts of this book (too often, fuck this board) i hear it in the voice of tommy wiseau

>>7378783

>>7389652
This is giving me strange feelings

I might read that book, thank you for sharing anon

>>7389624
yes, that is the entirety of the story, those two paragraphs
just find a copy on libgen or something and read it

>>7377659
some of JG Ballard stuff, even though it's entrylevel etc
>>7384589
this is the best novella of all time literally

>>7378818
now that's edgy

>>7377829
is that johntron?????

>>7381045
You are always forgiven

>>7378818
>this is literature now
:,^) hello darkness, my old friend.

>>7377659
Blokken by Ferdinand Bordewijk. Don't know if it was ever translated in English. It's very short and not that impressive literature-wise, but it left an eerie impression of the emptiness of communist life.

>>7378818
>mfw French fried potatoes

>>7388344
Despite the book's pornographic surface, respected authors have given it their endorsement. Norman Mailer, for instance, said "There is no question that Hogg by Samuel R. Delany is a serious book with literary merit."[7] J.G. Ballard, prolific speculative-fiction author and elder statesman of transgressive literature, also praised Delany's work, citing the medium of pornography as being the most "socially urgent" form of art.

>>7393912
>fiction author

opinion discarded

>>7377912
blood meridian is gross in a good way
no detail whatsoever, just detached, almost-bored laconic description
i think there's a skill in writing something toe curling without (or with minimal) embellishment

>>7380331
the first part with boris is pretty intense

>seeing people hate on Blood Meridian on a board that regularly worships DFW

I'm OUT! Later!

>>7394002
>Blood Memeidian

I hope you don't return

>>7377703

>>7388845
Few and far between starving people managing to survive for years on the flesh of few and far between starving people didn't really make sense to me. Only Cormac McCarthy book I've read so far and feeling a bit underwhelmed.

>>7393608
There's nothing more annoying than people who think the standard of literature is in the topic.
I bet you think Shakespeare is super serious too.

>>7389462
Yes. The the reply I came into the thread looking for. What manages to creep behind my rationality, and then pop up to convince me emotionally, is something is more profoundly disturbing than superficial, sort of instinctively revolting things.
Picking up the book you recommended also, seems promising.

>>7390669
>JG Ballard
>Entry level

I seriously doubt most of the users on this board have read even one thing by Ballard

>>7378818
Is it just me or is this comfy as fuck

>>7377659
Call me an impressionable pleb, but the industrial farming scenes in "Under the Skin" by Faber made me go vegan.

>>7384652
>using WASP as a pejorative
Shitskin or c u c k detected

>>7394421
I have

The Rising.

>>7394421
I have read one thing by Ballard
it was a short story from, probably, when he was young
it was not very good

>>7377659
Edgiest ive read would be the wasp factory. Setting fire to dogs for fun and other animal torture is a bit...

Also
>that reveal

>>7394421
Crash and Cocaine Nights.

>>7394421
I read The Drought. Won't be reading anything else by Ballard unless I have too. It's very rare for me to finish a book and think it was horribly written. Only other one to strike me as terrible as Ballard was Vonnegut.

>>7394935
that was a poor choice to start with
also you have no taste
>it was bad because it was bad
>horribly written
great review anon incredible analysis
lastly suck my dick u massive kek

So which of these novels are gory fucked-up as opposed to sexually fucked-up

>>7377844
>don't ever touch Hogg

i have, in the past, thought quite highly of Mr Delany, so i chased this up and read it. to be honest, it was kind of boring. none of the characters had any depth, and i got the impression he was trolling.

i suppose there is a season to wound the autumnual city, and there is a season to shit in your pants.

>>7378505
i think he's referring to the James Joyce fanboi structure, which was pretty fucked up.

>>7380906
>fucking marchese de sade

now there's an interesting idea. What if Donatien Alphonse Francois had been a woman? would she have been as freaky?

>>7378818

Oh shucks this got me rock hard and ready to rock and roll. My wife is getting a powerful dicking tonight.

>>7377703

>>7378896
wrong murakami senpai

>>7396627
Nam by Mark Baker
Empire of the Sun by JG Ballard
1984 by George Orwell

>>7378818
>Now, how do you like that?
Cheeky as fuck t b h

>>7378888
Every time I read Sotos I cannot take it seriously. Calling him a tryhard might be a little reductive but holy shit it really feels like he's trying his fucking hardest to push buttons and nothing else.

>>7389989
...

>>7397596
Was it worth reading?

I began reading Justine because I was told it was fucked up. I finished because I thought it was kind of hot once in a while; the classical language tied up with things like eating shit and making dogs nearly maul a young girl opened up a part of me I didn't really know I had until then.

Most of the rest of De Sade's work did the same. 120 Days was fucked up, but I couldn't help but really get into in more ways than one.

Story of the Eye is next for me - I've read various excerpts of Bataille's works and it really interests me on a level even more than De Sade's. Also, Story of the Eye was mentioned in a great song

>>7385829
>The most fucked up scene i remember is when he makes his bulldog rape a little girl, then opens the girl up from her vagina with a metalic Hydra (dagger) then starts removing the girls internal organs from the vagina open gap and makes the dog eat them.
This is loli guro-tier stuff I love it

>>7397803
For me, Justine comprised gang rapes separated by poor arguments for nihilistic atheism. I didn't particularly enjoy it.

Story of the Eye is more interesting if you read it alongside Bataille's (economic) philosophies. If you can find The Accursed Share, read it. It's also pretty good on its own, in that it's entertaining and very arousing