/lit/ - Literature

>>7369279
Newton.

>>7369279
it's the feminine fear of rape and sense of entitlement sublimated into a loose excuse for politics. "bodies" because rape is the utter disenfranchisement of a woman's virtue and "spaces" because women must have comfortable secure areas in which to feel comfortable and secure.

>>7369279
It's pointless jargon to make them look like experts on something others don't fully grasp. An insecure young student hearing this will assume there are all sorts of meanings that she doesn't have the background to understand, and so will automatically give the feminists more credibility or even seek them out for guidance.

Why do shitposters never talk about "books" and "literature"? Does this come form any faggot in particular?

>>7369279
>>>/his/
>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/

>>7369288
Laughed.

But seriously a feminist called Principia Mathematica "Newton's rape manual."

>>7369279
>>>/his/

>>7369319
I sure there has been a Christian who thought it was Satanic.

>>7369324
>implying I must respect Christians because I don't respect feminists

>>7369279
This doesn't really belong here, but I suppose that the answer would be the Frankfurt School of post-structuralists.

People like Foucault and other modern semiotics were really influential to modern thoughts of 3rd wave feminism. That's my take on it anyways.

But its pretty much all cancer, you could probably read a little bit to get a handle on its faults but don't take much of it seriously. Foucault wrote a few very interesting things, and I've heard pendulum is good, but his ideas are extremely esoteric to a fault. Similar to post-structuralists today, he uses so much jargon and sophistry that it makes his ideas hard to digest.

>>7369327
>>implying I must respect Christians because I don't respect feminists

>>7369331
>Foucault
>really influential to modern thoughts of 3rd wave feminism
Thanks. I haven't read this guy yet but everyone here calls his work trash. Now I know to definitely avoid him

>>7369279
the current pop feminist movement was for the most part crowdsourced from the internet. Terms like 'safe space' 'trigger warnings' and possibly 'bodies' originated on blogs and livejournals around the turn of the century. The future of ideology is not academia or philosophers but the faceless mob with its endless streams of memes. See for example the mra/ neoreactionaries on the other side of the spectrum they get their ideology from bloggers and youtube pundits.

>>7369331
>Foucault wrote a few very interesting things, and I've heard pendulum is good
this is a joke right

>>7369348
>Better avoid a thinker because they disagree with me!

/lit/ is truly the nerve centre of critique when it comes to feminism

>>7369279
Feminist epistemologies is a direct result of Heidegger's de-struktion of western philosophy. There is no "difference" between Derrida and Heidegger.

Return to Aristotle, western man.

>>7369279
This isn't /lit/ related faggotron

>>7369331
>and I've heard pendulum is good,

You wrote an entire paragraph pretending to know something you have no clue of. Wow.

>>7369381
fuck off

>>7369387
But I don't want to be a slave.

>>7369331
> Foucault influential to identity politics

You're fucking kidding, right? He literally states identity politics is just a trap.

>>7369394

>>7369395
top kek

Return to Aquinas, natural slaves.

>>7369381
My next book is going to be Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex because I really, really enjoy Sartre. I've yet to see a Feminist ever make convincing and logically consistent arguments though.

>>7369331
>I learned about Foucault from online forums and now I parrot their opinions as mine! xD

>>7369402
Why is it when someone disagrees with feminists all they can counter with is pictures of fedoras or people wearing fedoras?

Not even that guy, but it's almost like they can only speak in memes. Maybe that's where all of this "body" and "space" rhetoric comes from. Memery

>>7369423
>Why is it when someone disagrees with feminists
Feminists don't use rationality, they just employ the "You can't get laid" trap to "win" arguments.

idk maybe Nietzsche

http://4umi.com/nietzsche/zarathustra/4

>feminists
>thinkers

pick 1

>>7369423
all philosophy is just memes, language cannot transcend memedom

>>7369423
Is that guy really a feminist though? I must admit that it is pretty damn anti-intellectual to not read someone else's work, for the fact that you don't really agree with their politics.

It is basically a privilege that any normal fag have in their repertoire. To ignore political content from work, and to strip any sort of message that would ruffle their damn jimmies. A good lot of feminists that I even just brush upon, at least see that there is a political message that they would disagree with.

Really this whole side-show against this singular feminist monolith is just sort of tiring after the the 100th warble garble of garbage that ultimately comes down to the fact that people just can't fucking take any sort of criticism anymore. So they always have to hide behind "Muh Political Correctness" whenever someone disagrees with them. That is frankly annoying, and generally just sort of retards any sort of meaningful discussion there is to be had.

>>7369405
>I can only respond with ironic shitposting

>>>/r/4chan

Imagine zebras surrounded by passive lions every day. The lions could strike at any chance so the zebras initiative and dislike the lions while some zebras will be okay near the lions

It's just cultural shock from the times, that's all. It used to be all zebras and no lions.

>>7369453
>So they always have to hide behind "Muh Political Correctness" whenever someone disagrees with them. That is frankly annoying, and generally just sort of retards any sort of meaningful discussion there is to be had.

I agree completely, we can see this new form of antiintellectualism taking solid root in college campuses across the West. While the 20th century it seemed that the right wing was a bigger proponent of fighting free thought in academia, as a socialist myself, it's sad to say that it seems in the 21st century most of this censorship is coming from the left.

>>7369456
There's nothing worth responding to when you post absolute shit. Read the work before you comment upon it. The ignorant statements rife in your comment are vomit-inducing.

>>7369404
The Second Sex is a really shitty attempt at denying Freud. The part about lesbianism was cringe.

Plus she never lived according to the criticism she made of marriage.

>>>/pol/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/trash/

>>7369331
>I never read Foucault but I'll pretend to have a nuanced understanding of what he was talking about

Wow, just wow

This thread illustrates why /lit/ is just as stupid as the rest of 4chan.

>>7369423
The fedora is a symbol that mocks pseudo-intellectuals. In this context, its usage was perfectly applied. Refusing to read an author because you do not agree with their ideas is revolting and reeks of dilettantism.

>>7369474
That wasn't me you originally responded to paranoia-chan

>vomit inducing

Lmao, get a grip and quit being so dramatic

>>7369423
Except you're not disagreeing with a feminist, you're just revelling in your ignorance and pretending that you're making cogent points

You know, being a pseud

>>7369477
>a really shitty attempt at denying Freud.
>denying Freud.
>seriously implying that cokeheads pseudoscientific ramblings are objective fact

>>7369331
Foucault's Pendulum is the best thing Foucault ever wrote. The rest is AIDS.

t. /pol/

>>7369486
The fact that you're defending an idiot just shows you're a bigger fool than he is.

>>7369492
The more you deny it, the more it's true!

>>7369469
To be honest, I still see the right-wing as being more of a proponent of censorship than the left-wing. It is still fairly troubling to see such elements cropping up in colleges. Though I wouldn't really want a political discussion in say an engineering or mathematics course. So there is a degree of limit that "free-speech" has I suppose.

Basically it's just socially retarded to deal with that sort of thing.

>>7369492

More than half of his work makes no attempt at scientific accuracy or wants to be.

Have you even read him?

>>7369499
I was commenting on the quality of your response

>>7369508
>damage control

>>7369514
>I can only respond with ironic shitposting
>>>/r/4chan

Jesus Christ, this whole thread is like pottery.

>>7369508
I don't need to have a quality response if all I'm doing is ridiculing the stupidity of a person's post. It didn't warrant me typing out a rebuttal because the ignorance inherent within it already defeated the anon's argument.

>>7369522
>damage control

>>7369526
OK. Have a nice day. :)

>>7369348
You're a dumb cunt, mate. How does it feel?

>>7369331
>Foucault's Pendulum
>having anything to do with MIchel Foucault

this is why it's so hard to not shitpost on /lit/

>>7369529
too late

>>7369526
>damage control

>>7369531
>dumb cunt
I'm not too worried about being judged "intellectually" by a Feminist / Feminism apologist

>>7369331
Even as an extremist far-right funatic I know that those philosophers themselfs are the problem, but reading them through sociological lenses. Basically sociology undergrads read philosophy without having started with the greeks and the Bible.

>>7369550
>without having started with the greeks and the Bible
This is so true. The Greeks should be taught in school, not the contemporary fiction shite they teach now.

>>7369561
>tfw poor so had to start off at community college before university
>tfw we actually had to read the fucking Hunger Games in a college setting

>>7369348
Have fun being an ignoramus then buddy

Just don't cry about left-wing censorship in universities in the future

>>7369572
>universities
>2015
>Not being an autodidact
>Literally paying an institution to tell you which books to read
Let them burn. It's not my problem.

>>7369571
Truly a fate worse than death.

>>7369313
People write books. I'm asking about the person who might have written books in which she used this terminology. You're a fucking idiot.

>>7369441
I thought it might have come from de Beauvoir or some postmodern philosopher.

>>7369478
Why do people do this whenever someone mentions feminism. Do you realize that I'm not criticizing feminism or feminists?

>>7369550
>Basically sociology undergrads read philosophy without having started with the greeks and the Bible.

Fucking so much this.

Alright, so no one has any idea. Good.

>>7369608
Libraries are key. I'm fine with academia getting reformed, but libraries are essential and it's where all the true learning in any civilization takes place.

There or innawoods doing psychedelics.

>>7369703

Can you point to to the literary quality of your post? I mean that you only mentioned either the political or philosophic concept. There was nothing more and our sticky is quite explicit.

>>7369715
I haven't been to /lit/ in a while, so I didn't know that these types of questions go in /his/ now. That's unfortunate. But that person told me to go to /r9k/ or /pol/. Why would she have done that if she didn't think I was attacking feminists?

>>7369728

/pol/ is also mentioned in the sticky for where political discussion goes

/r9k/ for the usual level of quality of discussion these threads usually inevitably have

2/3 of the suggestions xe makes were at least accurate.