/lit/ - Literature

For ease of helping others understand the chart, each author and their recommended entry level book/story:

Turgenev - Fathers and Sons
Gorky - One Autumn Night
Tolstoy - Anna Karenina
Pushkin - Eugene Onegin
Chekhov - Ward No. 6
Dostoevsky - Notes from Underground
Gogol - The Overcoat
Bulgakov - The Master and Magarita
Nabokov - Lolita

I'm getting a bump going for Dugin PDFs in English pls

>>7362694
Thanks for this

>>7362694
Gorky and Bulgakov were the only ones I couldn't place, thanks.

>>7362743
That Gorky story's like a 10-minute read, hope you enjoy. If anyone knows more of his work or what's more representative, I'd be happy to know

I recently read The Death of Ivan Ilyich, it was great. I case anyone was thinking about reading this widely acclaimed book but felt like they needed a random 4chan comment to push them, there you have it.

>Russian lit
>Nabokov's Lolita

senpai pls

>>7362723
Some good essays and interviews here
https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Alexander+Dugin%22

Still can't find any PDF's of 4th Political theory though :(

>russian lit
>lolita
Nigger what
That's like calling heart of darkness polish lit

>>7363080
Thanks family. The Struggle for Dugin on this thread is real. :(

>>7363032
Thanks I enjoyed AK and wanted to read something else by Tolstoy. Now I'm going to read TDoI

>>7362749
The trilogy about his life is great. Specially the first one. I guess it is Childhood in English, but I may be wrong.

>>7363172
nigga pls I read heart of darkness in polish))))

>>7363212
>reading translations

>>7362694
Thanks a lot.

>>7362749
>>7363193
His autobiography is, rightfully, his most famous work. I'm mildly surprised that it doesn't get more attention on /lit/

>>7363193
Childhood is awesome in how horrifying it is. I still remember it from the times when I read it in high school, which I can't say about many books.

>>7363174
You can also keep up to date with translations of Dugin's essays on New Right sites like countercurrents, his 4pt site and here
https://neweuropeanconservative.wordpress.com/tag/alexander-dugin/

>>7363230
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEl59biItfY

>>7362694
>Pushkin - Eugene Onegin
I just brought this, haven't read Pushkin before.
I highly enjoy Tolstoy W&P/AK and I also enjoy Notes from underground.
>Nabokov - Lolita
Why not Pnin? It's a cute but also somewhat depressing story

>>7362682
Was Nabokov aware that he was the most patrician man of all time?

Also, I just started Invitation to a Beheading today. It's pretty great so far.

>>7362682
That image is a troll, right? It's supposed to be as wrong as possible?

literally always the same 5 to 10 authors. no one ever posts late imperial or soviet ones that arent as known.

>>7364900
yes and he doesn't ever fail to mention it at every possible occasion

>>7364900
Invitation is a top 3 Nabokov book

>>7365352
no one including yourself

>>7362682
Is Nabby actually a ped? I understood in Lolita that he was being critical of Humbert. But my Dad, who reads quite a bit more than me suspects he was either doing that as an empty gesture or out of penitence because he read another work which he claimed had some vivid incestuous moments between two children.

reading is gay

have i read anything good lately? hmmm? sure your mom has a giant penis hardcover edition by liam xavier the third amazon has it 60 % off right now

>>7362682
>Nabokun
>Russyan
topoya kekya

>>7365352
have you read A Day in the Life of Ivan Denisevich or Dead Souls? why is russian lit so fucking depressing?

>>7366244
Nabakov is absolutely a ped. Lolita was critical of Humbert but Nabakov really just wanted to paint a pedophile as a sort of sympathetic figure.

wat thee fuk is a ped?

>>7366399
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_%28prosody%29

>>7366187

because i donr feel like typing them. maybe later. feels like im showing off

>>7366363

its also pretty funny / morbid. a day in the life is a really average book. read kolyma tales instead.

>>7366370
He didn't do a very good job. Humbert was the most obnoxious protagonist I ever read next to maybe Ignatius Reilly. During the whole book I wanted him to die, not because he was a pedophile but because of his shit-tier personality.

>>7366567
Humbert was literally Nabakov: the character. I was honestly expecting him to start ranting about Dostoevsky's cheap sensationalism every page.

>>7366660
http://www.jstor.org/stable/40754944?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Replace Nabokov with Pasternak.

>>7365352
Sasha Sokolov, Yerofeev, Rozanov, Ilyin

reading is gay. all authors are GAAAAAAAAAAY. whatever book or author discussion your having is not important because YOU and them are all homosexual gays.

before i die i promise to find a gravestone of a well know writer of my choice for the purpose of smearing the titles of most successful books with fresh warm shit all over the grave

>>7366998
>>7367032
were you raped by a russian bear?

um yes. i was raped by a russian bear. are you a psychic? like one of those remote viewer types?

>>7367195
no, you reaction is that of most people who are raped by russian bears, in that both your eyeballs and intellect have fallen from your skull and you have become a burden to everyone who enjoys reading and a disappointment to your mother. try some dostoevski

not saying them abilities are real although im open to the idea of paranormal existance such as these abilities, ghosts and dinosores and stuff. it was either a wild guess or your psychic. either was congratulations i was raped by a russian bear.

didnt see your reply. im sorry i called you an ultra flaming homosexual gay for loving ultra flaming homosexual gay things like literature. my opinion doesnt matter and has not and should not completely destroy your day and upset you. im sorry ok?

>>7363534
>>7363174
>>7363080
they have it in my library, i'll photocopy it for you guys this weekend

>>7362682
What's the best on Tchaikovsky that i can get?

i stand correct when i say literature is gay and only the most flaming gays partake is this faggetry of massive proportions. so gay its barely conceivable through the blinding eyeball melting homo heat rays of death and to think im stating a wrong opinion is to think an astronaut is the same thing as a retarded man wearing a fish bowl on his head. i stand correct and its all i know and dont give a shit about your opinion. eat shit and die.

>>7366660
Then Nabokov is not someone I would like to have a beer with

all authors are gay. all of them.

>>7367285
Wait in English? :o

Is there a lit approved translation for Dostoevsky and Tolstoy? I just realized the copies of The Idiot and Anna Karenina I borrowed from my dad are translated by Constance Garnet. Am I better off finding a different copy?

Weird timing, i JUST finished Speak, Memory by Nabokov an hour ago. It was incredible, i highly recommend. Its his memoir, but if you aren't interested in his life its still a worthwhile read for the prose alone. He explains miniature phenomenons in everyday life flawless by making the most precise analogies and personifications. He's a master

>>7362694
I've read Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Nabakov. Who would you recommend next? I was thinking Gogol or Chekhov.

>>7364900
Expert savant in Butterflies, chess & literature. He was a fancy motherfucker wasn't he?

>>7367579
oh no fuck, it's only russian i didn't notice. they have translations of a lot of his other work so i just assumed, sorry!

>>7368006
Awww shit get what you can in English family but then I suggest you talk to people in your Political Science, International Relations, and Russian Studies programs and let them know about how we need some focus in on Dugin senpai.

if you don't know russian gtfo this thread

>>7368029
Yeah, I can read Russian so it's not that big of a deal for me, but that's not a bad idea. My university is pretty based so I might actually be able to get it fairly quickly, I'll post if I do.

>>7362694
Rereading Notes from the Underground right now. Some really interesting hot takes on human nature in there if that's what you're into.

>>7367909
not him, but i really enjoyed "fathers and sons". of the two, i would read gogol's "the overcoat", closely followed by chekhov's "the cherry orchard" or, for something a little bit lighter and easier, "the bear"

>>7367909
>>7368079
i would second Fathers and Sons. fantastic book

Finished a day in the life of Ivan Denisovitch last week. I thought it was going to ve brutal, but it was surprisingly comfy. Made me feel better about working as a wagekek.

Midway through notes from underground. That scene where he goes to Zherkovs dinner, gets drunk and then paces around the room was pretty funny. It made me think of the 'my feet hurt, i want to go home meme'.

>>7368996
I laughed at Zherkovs dinner for the exact same reason. If you're there now, prepare for the good stuff to come in like... a few pages.

It's a shame that it is impossible to translate Platonov to English language. Such a great author.

I'm reading both The Karamazov Brothers and Underground Diaries (the first at home after work and the latter as a pocket book). So far I'm liking Dostoevsky's writing style, and it kind of affected me in a way. It made me think about some aspects of life I had not given enough thought about before. Any recommendations of russian literature that has these "life-changing insights"? Should I go with Crime and Punishment after those two books?

>>7369038
I recommend C&P

>>7368996
If you have any military friends, the UGM's characterization of them is spot on. I found that part to be hilarious.

>>7368976
cool. Thanks guys, the overcoat is a one-sitting read so maybe ill do that first then father & sons

>>7367677
Richard Pevear & Larissa Volokhonsky are objectively the best Russian translators and the prolific

>>7369124
Richard, please go

>>7369124
>https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/the-pevearsion-of-russian-literature/

>Pevear and Volokhonsky, who are married, work in an unusual fashion. She, a native Russian speaker, renders each book into entirely literal English. He, who knows insufficient Russian, then works on the rendering with the intention of keeping the language as close to the original as possible. What results from this attempt at unprecedented fidelity is a word-for-word and syntax-for-syntax version that sacrifices tone and misconstrues overall sense.

>Imagine someone translating Paradise Lost from English into Russian who had somehow missed that Milton was a Christian. There is something of that in the P&V version of Dostoevsky’s Notes from Underground. Its nameless narrator, the “underground man,” wants above all to discredit the deterministic credo that people are mere “piano keys” played upon by the laws of nature—that since we must always act according to our own perceived best interest, everything we do is in principle predictable and choice an illusion. In response, the underground man describes and performs acts that violate his best interest, either to disprove the prevailing theory or just because, just so, for no reason at all. His word for such acts of self-injury is, in English translations before P&V, “spite.” It is fair to say that to miss the concept of spite is to miss the work entire.

But that is just what P&V do. Instead of “spite,” they give us “wickedness.” Now, the Russian word zloi can indeed mean “wicked.” But no one with the faintest idea of what this novella is about, with any knowledge of criticism from Dostoevsky’s day to ours, or with any grasp of Dostoevskian psychology, would imagine that the book’s point is that people are capable of wickedness.

>>7366399

Given the context, what do you think it is?

>>7362694
notes from underground is dense af, I would start with crime and punishment desu

>>7367909
Read everything by Gogol. He didn't write all that much. Dead Souls is great.

>>7368996
lel, that scene is so autistic

>>7369494
authentic*

>>7369482
not sure if troll or retard

>>7365352
Bunin,Babel,Leskov,Yerofeyev,Eichenbaum&Friends

>>7368079
>Reading Chekhov

Nigga you dun goofed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r4eLGQbaaY

>>7369201
Just read it in original, moron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEl59biItfY