/lit/ - Literature

>>7342385
>Arranged by colour

MY MAN

>>7342385
Is Granta worth a sub? Been wanting to get me some lit journal, Granta seems pretty good

>>7342394
granta is pretty consistently good. definitely worth checking out. the pieces sometimes tend to come at the issues' subjects fairly loosely, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

>>7342385
>bookshelves
More like book-selves, you fucking egokeks
amirite guise

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>>7342423
2/2

>>7342425
holy shit dude, go vacuum that carpet

>>7342423
guess you studied philosophy...

>>7342444
The trips compel me. I will do as you say.

>>7342423
>>7342425

How is Planet Hulk? Been interested in it myself also curious about that Being and Time translation since I've got Edward Robinson.

>>7342449
Uh, that's the Macquarrie and Robinson translation of Being and Time. As in, Edward Robinson. Wouldn't that be the same translation that you have? That's the standard English edition of Being and Time. I've heard that the Stambaugh one is more accessible. but it'll surely be some time before Macquarrie and Robinson's reign ends.

Planet Hulk is one of my favorite graphic novels, and probably my favorite capeshit one. I got that when I was younger, then went out and read a bunch more Hulk stuff, but it was all shit compared to Planet Hulk. I'd recommend it.

Does anyone else not keep their books? I used to be into collecting, but it seems to me now that it's kind of pointless. I trade books I've finished in to a used bookstore, and buy or borrow a copy if I want to reread something, which is rare.

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>>7342584
I don't see how it's any more pointless than doing anything else.

Been a while

Main

>>7342423
Best shelves I've seen on here. 10/10.

>>7342683

Overflow.

>>7342620
holy kek all those wordsworth editions!

>>7342687

Desk

>>7342683
Viva la Hollandia!

>>7342423
Is American Rust good?

>>7342423
all that kierkegaard

>>7342425
What is going on with that perspective? It seems as if the bookshelf folds into itself, and that the stuff on top of the shelf is going to slide off.

>>7342715
It's three separate images stacked on top of each other

>>7342659
It doesn't really provide any benefit to keep a collection, and occupies space, while selling old books recoups some money for future purchases. In the long term, a habit of buying but never selling books results in a large mass of objects that must be stored, kept clean, and organized, as well as packed and transported should you move. The benefit of this is that you have a personal library available to reread. However, there's so much written work available that there's no reason to reread something except for sentimental value once a book has been fully absorbed, and should you choose to do so you could easily purchase or borrow another copy.

>>7342773
>However, there's so much written work available that there's no reason to reread something except for sentimental value once a book has been fully absorbed
There's no reason to read any fiction except for sentimental value.
>implying you can ''fully absorb'' a book in two or three reads
>implying you don't need non-fiction at hand for information or citations
>implying you can remember everything
>implying you don't just want to reread chapter or a passage
>implying books even take up a lot of space
There are so many things that are more useless according to your description than books.

>>7342816
>implying you can ''fully absorb'' a book in two or three reads
I'll agree with you there, but at some point you must move on.
>implying you don't need non-fiction at hand for information or citations
How does that justify maintaining a large personal collection of books you will likely never have time to reread?
>implying you can remember everything
The books on my shelf won't help me with that once I'm dead. What do I need to remember these things for?
>implying you don't just want to reread chapter or a passage
I don't.
>implying books even take up a lot of space
They do, if one habitually holds on to them.
>There are so many things that are more useless according to your description than books.
Then those shouldn't be kept either.

Nice Soseki and Tanizaki

>>7342773
Bookshelves are nice for aesthetic reasons. Also, you can simply sell books you don't like and only keep the ones you do.

>>7342844
You can pass books down to your kids and your family can use your collection.

>>7342863
Agreed, but many things are enjoyable for aesthetic reasons, and can be found outside of my home. I like most of the books I read.
>>7342870
I'm never having children.

>>7342915
OK but he or someone else might. I think it justifies having a collection to pass it down to those you love and who you think will treat it appropriately.

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>>7342946
>>7342951
Either fake image or I can only think that you might have severe autism.

>>7342922
I suppose so. If a child is interested in reading though, I still think the same practice of acquiring and discarding books as necessary is more prudent. They may not even be interested in my collection. As for how a bequeathed item is treated, I can only understand concern for how wisely one's progeny is managing their property, but I don't hold sentiment for the objects themselves.

>>7342962
What makes you think collecting publisher sets counts as autism?

>>7342946
>>7342951
How are you supposed to find anything?

>>7342946
Jelly of those NYRB's

>>7342946
>>7342951
very uniform, i like

>>7342697
I got that back in 2009 and it's a first edition. I need to reread it, but I remember it being very good and very much like a Steinbeck novel. I also remember one of the characters being really stupid. Good book though, if you want some of that demystifying of the American dream

>>7342629
>>7342626
>>7342620

that's a whole lot of suspicious reading

>>7342629
cool bookshelf ahmed

>>7342946
I JUST HAD AN ORGASM

>>7342423
godtier!! not a single meme although I assume you have read Infinite Jest

What is this fascination with book shelves? Accruing printed material doesn't suggest you've read any of it, and doesn't impress guests, unless your friends are the kind of bohemian Jizz stains,who like yourself, advertise this sort of thing. Grow up and use the library, it's a public good that keeps on giving. For $2.50 in late fees, you'll save face, and never have to fib your way out of conversation about a book you e never read

>>7343443
You're implying that everyone has friends. No one comes over to my home, and I've got one of the biggest collections on /lit/.

Regardless, interlibrary loaning costs $2 per at my local library, and I can buy the books I would be loaning for only a little more than that. Plus, I get to keep my notes in them this way, which is more useful than files and folders for teaching directly from the book.

>>7342425
>>7342423

Approve of everything except shit-tier OUP edition of Canterbury Tales. Why on earth would you read a translation? Middle English is really not that difficult.

>>7342385
>arranged by color

heh
I did that once just to piss people off.
Here, have a pic of my bookshelf in 2009 or something like that.

>>7342423
Certified patrician

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>>7343830
2/2

>>7343830
>>7343832
Buy less books and save for a better camera instead, f4m.

>>7342679
>The Long Ships

>Min afrikansk amerikan vän.

How come I never see any love for Röde Orm on /lit/?

>>7342620
jesus louisus look at all those wordsworths

>>7343017
What do you mean ''Suspicious''?
>>7343080
Do you really think Ahmed would put the Qur'an next to ''Myths from Mesopotamia''?
>>7343863
It's incredibly useful if you're getting into literature and you can buy classics for 2 euros each.

>>7344121
>Do you really think Ahmed would put the Qur'an next to ''Myths from Mesopotamia''?
high kek

>>7344121
>It's incredibly useful if you're getting into literature and you can buy classics for 2 euros each.

Except you're also getting subpar translations. You can get quality used editions for around the same price (maybe a little more) easily.

>>7344153
There aren't any second hand higher tier editions of English translated Russian novels in The Netherlands. The rare ones that might be out there don't sell for anywhere near 5 euros. If I really like a book or author, I'll buy a different translation somewhere down the line and see how I like it. (also, most of what I read from that shelf was English originally, Trollope, Woolf, Twain, Austen, Wilde) Wordsworths are fine anyways, I enjoyed the books.

>>7344165
>If I really like a book or author, I'll buy a different translation somewhere down the line and see how I like it.

How can you judge a work with a subpar translation?

>>7344176
How can you judge a book if it's translated?
How can you judge a book if you don't live in the world of the author?
How can you judge a book if you don't understand the intention of every word?
How can you judge a book if you haven't lived the experience of the characters?
You're being silly. But I trust you have read every translation of every novel with the original and with a thorough study of the time and country the author was from, or are you just parroting authority on what translation you should read?

>>7342946
>>7342951
>>7342967

holy titfuck

>>7342687

Why the sharp angled roof? Looks like an interesting material your wall is made of too, like you live in a boat or something.

>>7342693
Ziet er mooi uit!

>>7344165
I am Dutch myself, and this is not true. Visit any antiquariaat and you'll find tons.
If you're too lazy or somehow can't go to any, boekwinkeltjes.nl is a good place to buy second hand books online.

>>7342683
>>7342687
>>7342693

I'm still not sure if you are a pretentious doc/student who dabbles in literature/art/design just for your image or if it's a genuine interest.

There's so much low tier Taschen and Dutch stuff mixed with obscure as fuck books. Conflicting images.

>>7344732
How is Taschen low-tier?

>>7344732
>taschen
>low-tier

>>7344741
siht man, clean your shelf.

>>7342423
Philosobro, I always praise your Kierkegaard collection, but just noticed you have Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy. Have you read them, and if so what did you think? (Also what publisher is that?) I stumbled on them as I was wrapping up Livy's last extant books, and started reading the discourses last week, but I have no prior experience with political philosophy. I'm about halfway through and am enjoying it, but see that it's less of a how-to guide and more of a series of potential models to be added to one's "arsenal," so to speak.

PS have you read Mansfield's text on Machiavelli's Discourses? It looks like it may be interesting, but I'm not sure if it's worth the time until I have a better background in political philosophy, not to mention Machiavelli's own historical context.

>>7344741
dust yo shit, nigga

>>7342423
>de Tocqueville

>>7342620
>al die Wordsworths

>>7343764
Mirin your Hoffmann, I have Kleist in the same edition
If I come upon more of them I'll probably start collecting, too, because they look really nice

>>7342423
What book is pic related?

>>7345112
Once upon a time...

>>7345113
Edition?

>>7345322
>Chilly Scenes of Winter

I just moved and about half of my books are still in boxes :/

>>7343832
>Wicca
New Age fag detected

>>7345533
>Richard Dawking

*Tips fedora*

>>7342694
>>7344236
Bedankt ziet iedereen al gezellig voor een haardvuur met een boek?

>>7344214
Attic, floor below me had it's ceiling raised so I'm right between the rafters.
Walls are plasterboard with rounded edges, I didn't feel like finishing the job so I just left it like this so people can admire my screw placement.

>>7344732
Genuine interest. Taschen is just easy to acquire.

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>>7345009
desu he has a point, Taschen has some excellent books, but most off their catalogue is small crappy books on the popular arts/architects, even some of their bigger books are underwhelming.

>>7345533
why collect books if you aren't going to read any of them?

>>7345824
>

>>7345824
I've read most of the ones in the image though m8

>>7345805
Who would be a better publisher for the same type of art publications?

>>7345533
>Reply
Some nice stuff, anon. What do you think of Ayn Rand? You have a few of her books in that photo and I'm curious, she seems very hit and miss and polarising.

>>7345859
It's terribly slow and on the nose. You can't blame her for not being convicted in her beliefs though.

I get why she's revered as a god in some circles, it's terribly charismatic being so sure of yourself.

Read Atlas Shrugged though, if for no other reason do it so that you better understand neo-conservatives.

>>7345853

Don't focus on the publisher. Just go for the content. Most of my design books come from small independent publishers.

Taschen does have good stuff (Philip Jodidio is usually excellent) but you will pay for that (100+ range) not to say that they don't have good cheap books, they are just less common.

Könemann is usually pretty darn solid. And there's one I'm forgetting now.
010/NAi is insane for Dutch/Benelux stuff but their prices in the rest of the world are demanding with the 2ndhand prices being just plain hilarious.

>>7345629
inventor of memes

>>7345034
I've only read sections from the Discourses so far. From what I gather, it's largely about the value of political learning that can be gained by studying history. If you haven't read any political philosophy, I'd highly advise you read The Prince first and see if it can be reconciled with the Discourses.

That edition is the Mansfield translation, from the University of Chicago.

I assume you're referring to Mansfield's work, Machiavelli's Virtue? No, I have not read it. I want to read Thoughts on Machiavelli before reading any other secondary works on Machiavelli.

>>7345053
What's wrong with Tocqueville?

>>7345112
That's another translation of The Holy Bible. I read a lot more from the NRSV-2CE though.

>>7344195
None of that is the same, anon. Once you've made the choice of reading a translation of course you've settled for a certain level of 'distance' from the work, but why not work to minimize it? Especially if you intend on upgrading if you end up liking the work anyway.

>>7346131
Actually Mansfield has a text specifically in response to Machiavell's discourses, apparently arranged as a chapter-by-chapter interpretation/accompaniment: "Machiavelli's New Modes and Orders."

I wasn't aware of those other two texts on Machiavelli (even the other Mansfield one); I'll keep them in mind for when I return to Machiavelli later on. Thanks for the insight, and the reading recommendations!

Can't sleep senpai. Impress me.

>>7345322

that looks like a shelf tao lin would have and I mean that in a nice way

>>7346976
>Tao Lin
>Mean that in a "nice way"
pick one

>>7346992
you are tao lin or are modeling yourself on him

>>7347018
I am actually a delegate of Bloom Senpai. Tao Lin is a disgrace.

>>7347025
well you have awfully similar taste except in memes where he's clearly surpassed you

>>7342425
Nice MDR-V6's
I had a pair for quite a while, now my mom has them.

new shelves pls?

tfw I live in a tiny house with no room for bookshelves. All of my books are packed in meat boxes in the front of my closet...

>>7345533
is that copy of faust good?

>>7345824
>mfw not treating your books like shit means you haven't read them
>mfw /lit/

>>7347317
I baby the everloving shit out of my books.
I can't even lend them to my family, because they bend the pages back around behind and I want to strangle them.

>>7347327
Stop being so autistic about paperbacks.

>>7347332
No.

>>7347334
whatever you want ʄɑɱ

>>7347327
They're mass produced paperbacks, not the original manuscript of the book of revelations.

I had a copy of The Count of Monte Cristo. I read it, it was in almost perfect condition aside from creases down the spine. I lent it to a friend and he returned it with the corners all fucked up, the spine was obliterated and the cover was scratched. Straight back on my shelf. I don't give a fuck.

>>7347346
Just one of my OCD things, I guess...

>>7347346
What's mass production got to do with anything?
Do you throw out and rebuy books like a good goy buying into the capitalist ploy? Or are you just a plain philistine?

>>7347359
No. I'm saying that there is nothing sacred about books which are shipped on pallets by the lorry-load. I look after my property as best I can, but if I accidentally tear a page or fuck up the cover I don't get mad and buy a new one. If I had a Folio Society book and spilt coffee on the cover I'd be upset but since I don't buy that shit I have no reason to care about that kind of thing.

>>7347377
Okay so a philistine, gotcha.

>>7347380
Please elaborate. I am all for self improvement.

>>7345533
don't keep your books in a window sill it's asking for condensation damage

>>7347395
he's just angry that you buy things

>>7347400
Nigger saying there is 'nothing sacred about books shipped on pallets by the lorry-load' is way too categorical and denies books of any esoteric value, and even paperbacks can be nice and relatively expensive unless you're a normalfag, AND this all this is smug depreciation of the arts, and so philistinism.

>>7347547
>a nice, expensive edition of a book adds to the level of its content
nice meme

>>7342385
This is my "finished reading" shelf. The "to-read" shelf has 106 books on it but I don't have a picture of that one on my PC. Maybe I'll take one later.

>>7345533
Banks. Nice.

>>7344741
I hated the eyes of the dragon. That Wicca book just a "felt like reading it" or do you take that stuff seriously?

>>7343832
Neat Jacques collection.

>>7343830
What Douglas Adams book is that near songmaster?

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my ghetto setup

>>7347594
That's actually a horrible photo, my bad.

>>7347603

2/2

>>7347603
You've got a bit of an /x/ bookshelf. What's with all the spine barcodes?

>>7347606

kek. I'm taking the photo on a shit no-wifi Nokia and browsing 4chan on a laptop from 2009. Dated tech is my thing.

>>7347608

I get my books from thriftbooks. I don't take the stickers off because it sometimes damages the books. At least I can choose my editions.

Kind of sucks desu

>>7342679

>dose hard cover books by Russian authors

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>>7347607
dude lmao at that thriftbooks life, can relate

>>7347602

I remember enjoying it at 15. re: Wicca, it's complicated. Rationally I'm an atheist and wavering existentialist. Irrationally, I'm diagnosed as schizotypal and psychotic. My brain can get kind of disorganized, and so I was wondering if reading systematized irrationality might help organize my brain when it gets that way, even if it's only along unsound lines. Pure random noise is a lot more disruptive and harder to compartmentalize than eccentric belief.

>>7347609
Then do I have the thing for you!

>>7345878
>Read Atlas Shrugged though, if for no other reason do it so that you better understand neo-conservatives

Never read a word of her shit, let alone a thousand page novel, and I feel I can sum it up:
Minimally talented philosophical star-fucker who inspired generations of middle/upper class white kids to believe they're better than everyone else. How far off am I?

>>7347714
Oh and don't forget that it's awesome to be rich.

>>7342951
nice.
jelly

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>>7347811
>>7346976
taken from his infinite jest twitter

What do you niggas do for heavy books that always fall over? Bookends just barely keep them in place until you need to pull a book off the shelf. Only solutions I can think of are to not place them all on one shelf or to use a few more bookends to put between the books.

>>7347811

Nice salad. Looks healthy. Maybe take a more direct photo of your books.

got some more lying around in miscellaneous locations

anyway, r8 h8 mastrub8

>>7347659
I have that very same King Edward cigar box

>>7347884
russian editions look classy AS FUCK

>>7347625
>My brain can get kind of disorganized, and so I was wondering if reading systematized irrationality might help organize my brain when it gets that way, even if it's only along unsound lines. Pure random noise is a lot more disruptive and harder to compartmentalize than eccentric belief.

You're on to something anon. I think you should direct that part of you mind to comparative mythology. Joseph Campbell is an obvious place to start. If you want to try to get a deeper handle on this Jung might possibly help you.

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>>7347900

Any books in particular, or should I just start anywhere?

>>7347898
Yeah the Russian publishers know their stuff
My fabourite is this set of essays by Tolstoy, if only every booked looked like that
...also the essays are really good too, but who cares about that, eh

>>7347914
*favourite

>>7347911
bonus round, loans

>>7347912

For Jung start with: The Portable Jung

For Campbell read: Hero with a Thousand Faces, Power of Myth, and Myths to Live By

After than you can probably decide on your own where you'd like to go

>>7347594
get a better pic so we can see titles properly senpai

>>7342425

close to the ground. nice

>>7345322

seems Tao Lin. I have that Fredrick Barthelme ed of Mississippi Review.

>>7347884
A зaчeм ты coхpaняeшь вoт эти peклaмныe cтpипcы нa "Boйнe..." и двyх книжкaх из "Maлoй библиoтeкe шeдeвpoв" ?

>>7348129
Пpocтo тaк, чиcтo paди цeлocтнocти

Damn bookshelf rate is going downhill senpai baka baka

>>7342385
I want to buy a mid size bookshelf what I get /lit/ ?
I live in US, I hear Target has nice book shelves.

>>7348329
Ikea billy

>>7348329

Ikea Billy.
Besta if you want to spend more and have a superior product.

>>7347607
yeah but take those stickers off pls