/lit/ - Literature

dumb frogposter

What? Grow up.

>They've had the male sexual desire hypnotised out of them by society

>Unironically believing this
>not realizing sex is the biggest spook society has ever produced

tl;dr you don't actually enjoy literature and wanted to use it as a means towards some kind of social leverage
tl;dr we like literature in and of itself and keep the two separate

>>>/fit/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/fuckoff/

Read the Stoics. Truth is the same in all ages, sorry you think human life is forever altered because we have iphones now

>>7285500
coitus is the gigaspook par excellence

>>7285492
>How can something be worth anything if it doesn't magically provide me with pussy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyAcfxLtamg

>>7285492
>Even /fit/ does this, even as they make threads with delusional stories about being admired by girls.

but /fit/ are also autismos, they just happen to be buff and attract the other sex.

anyway, why do you care so much about sex? It's like everything IRL that you, or other people, hype, It's not as good as you hoped and it's done nothing fix your insecurity and autism.

You're not asking for advice, you're asking us to tell you what you want to hear, that you're a piece of shit, so you can stagnate and do nothing because of this confirmation.

>>7285521
>/fit/
>buff

Women are dangerous and they don't care about you. At all. That's the truth.

>>7285530
Have you seen the CBT threads? They're more muscular than the average guy and most pictures in there show that. It's not supposed to be surprising that people on a fitness board actually lift/be healthy.

>>7285531
>le egdy redpilled alpha

>>>/r9k/
>>>/pol/
>>>/reddit/

>>7285561
But he's speaking the truth fam, and there's nothing about being redpill/alpha in his post whatsoever.

It's called being pragmatic and knowing what you're dealing with.

>>7285530
some of them have joocy asses fam >>34682456

>>7285561
>getting baited


This is a bait thread. Acknowledge this if you post.

>>7285579
>>>/fit/34682456

Wtf, if this thread is remotely serious why don't you just go get some poon if you want to? Why do you need this site's approval and guidance?

>>7285580
>he got baited by calling out the bait that was responding to obvious bait

why do these cucks construct their whole life and meaning around women and sex?

The same thing happens of /fit/ as well and they're the most fuccboi-free board on this site.

>>7285592
>baited by responding to the bait responding to the bait
>I myself just got baited by the baiter baiting the baited

>>7285597
Does that make OP a master baiter?

>>7285492
>hopefully intellectual nadir
Pathetic

>>7285492
>intellectual nadir

Kids, this is how you identify a loser

Did I make this thread and I forgot that I did or what

>>7285492
I used to feel like this. It wasn't seeing attractive people that caused it though but seeing happy people. I had a real sour grapes attitude. I have found a solution that's helped quite a bit.

I figure I'm different from those people I see not in a way that would allow me to create some false sense if superiority but in a way that makes me completely inferior to them. I'm undeserving of any happiness that they have and should just resign my self to a life of mediocrity. You shouldn't be jealous of what you don't deserve right? I figure that happiness isn't meant for me, and now I'm not upset that I don't have it. Maybe you can get yourself to think the same way about women.

Hope I helped :)

>>7285508
back to reddit kid

>>7285542

Yeah but there's selection bias in the CBT threads because people with shitty bodies won't post in there out of fear of embarrassment.

Source: Personal projection because I have a shitty body and would never post in a CBT thread.

>>7285492
>why THE FUCK does lit pretend that I'm not a total loser?
You are being a bit presumptious, friend.
Being celibate is only cool if its voluntary. Free yourself from the need for validation from and through women, and you will be much happier.

>>7285707
you're literally just unhappy and probably have depression.
thinking that that makes you different from other people is self-sabotage.
just realize that you can't get out of it alone. while i get that it's hard to form relationships when you're depressed, it's crucial.
stop talking to yourself in your head and talk to other people.

>>7285707
I agree. Only the elite 10 - 20% of the strongest, brightest and most communicative members of each generation actually deserve to have a social and sex life throughout their working life. We call those people the upper middle class.

The rest of us are lucky to meet a single girl in the age span of roughly 19 - 24 with which to have children and spend all our spare time with. We are the lower middle and working class.

>>7285715
back to your mom's basement

>early 20s
>intellectual nadir

good lord

>>7285492
>why THE FUCK does lit pretend that I'm not a total loser?
I've got your back, OP. I think you sound like a total loser.

>>7285492
once you get a real hobby or real problems or a real job, or some combination of those, your problems will disappear. also women will start offering up their poon to you then.

>>7285587
This is what I don't get about /r9k/. They come up with earth-shattering truth bombs like 'women generally only want to have sex with guys they're attracted to' and then devote their time to hating women and resenting attractive guys for that instead of, y'know, making themselves more attractive.

>>7285742
or you could just try talking to women?
literally just talk. throw away all your creepy motives and just have a conversation with another human being.
these 2 paths of "do some creepy PUA shit" or "remove your desire of women" are stupid as fuck.
on the former, you don't want to misrepresent yourself. and on the latter you do want to fuck stop lying to yourself.
tbh charming women all has to do with selling yourself.

>>7285750
>Talk to other people
Talking to other people, exercising and eating well are temporary distractions from and not solutions to depression. I do all three, but they're barely better forms of escapism than reading, playing video games, etc.

>>7285764
I read OP as: it's easier to just lose those hormone-charged years to a haze of drugs and self-pity and then try to make up for them as an eternally regretful, socially excluded, yet consequentially clear-headed pleb.

>>7285722
There's selection bias in anyone who would elect to post on a board, but if you can't define a boards users as the aggregate of people who make content for it then how else would you define it?

>>7285492

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlakRSYzMWs

This is your problem. Zizek is a bit of a meme here, but you'll find this very helpful.

>>7285785

OP here (and posting for first time since the OP).

I am so authentic and cool and true to myself that I follow my hobbies, all of which are solitary. But talking to a girl (which I could only do through "cold terms", since I have no friends or even social media) obviously couldn't involve straight up asking for sex. I'd have to pretend to not be talking to her solely for sex, and be interested in doing other stuff with her. Even though I enjoy sex (I know this from escorts), sex with a regular girl would always be preceded by a bump of inauthenticity. Not only could I be called out on my inauthenticity by the girl herself or the people nearby, I could have my inauthenticity acknowledged by other people as a necessary part of life, and then made fun of in a straight up conventional way (" haha, he's ugly / he wants sex but isn't getting it" etc). And these insults would be multiplied by social.media.

And, judging by the cool, hip, media like vanity fair, buzzfeed, Guardian etc, the only way to get sex these days is while you're drunk or through dating apps, which are methods that neutralise the faux pas of authentic sexual desire by both parties ("teehee, I was so drunk I actually expressed my sexual desire" and "teehee, I expressed my authentic sexual desire on that silly tinder app, the app is so silly and transparent that I must have been acting ironically!").

there are plenty of autism boards
try >>>/r9k/ for starters

>>7285834
I'm cringing. Your problem is that you think you're "better" or "different" from other people. No wonder you don't have any friends.

>>7285834
I legitimately think you have autism my man

The doctor says to kill yourself

>>7285852
>fairly accurate reading of contemporary social mores regarding sex
>I legitimately think you have autism my man!!!

Nigga please

>>7285492
>some wasp who went to the right public school

There's your problem. You shouldn't be reading books written by Protestants.

>>7285834
Hey, I think you're kind of a fag but I relate to the last paragraph of what you wrote. IRL healthy relationships are hard to begin these days, infinitely harder to consummate.

Don't think too hard about things. The happiest, most sexually fulfilled people are usually the dumbest, usually the ones who think of things in the most basic human terms. See reddit.

>>>/soc/
>>>/adv/
>>>/r9k/

>>7285834
>I'd have to pretend to not be talking to her solely for sex
Why would you be pretending? Do you genuinely not enjoy talking to people/having friends?

Also, what's so great about 'authenticity'?

>>7285492
>Even /fit/ does this, even as they make threads with delusional stories about being admired by girls. They've had the male sexual desire hypnotised out of them by society.
That's because /fit/'s gay.

/fit/ likes to think of themselves as like a University gym, but they're more like that one gym located inside a gay bathhouse where everyone does squats in assless briefs

>>7285927
>Also, what's so great about 'authenticity'?
uh oh, way too big question to tackle right now. ask everyone else in the first world first

>>7285927
Let's be real, nigga. Men and women cannot be "just friends". Only reddit believes this.

>>7285886
>Don't think too hard about things. The happiest, most sexually fulfilled people are usually the dumbest, usually the ones who think of things in the most basic human terms
So I could get laid by acting like a caveman and asking girls "hey me want to put penis in you, ok?"?

How would one replicate that success without actually being dumber than one already is?

>>7285867
>>fairly accurate reading of contemporary social mores regarding sex

To some basement dweller who never fucked a female he didn't pay?

Sure, I guess you got me there.

For a normal person?

Nah. So you know, you have autism.

>>7285928
sounds like my heaven tbh

>>7285971
It's not really about intellect. It's about comfort. If you own yourself and your looks and behavior, you will have a much better chance of coming across as sexually appealing.

Naturally, less intellectual people have fewer reasons to worry and create anxiety about social situations so here, dumb=happy=comfortable in own skin=sex

>>7285927
>Also, what's so great about 'authenticity'?

nothing, it's a spook, like literally all the "problems" these spoiled pathetic faggots in the first world have

>>7285971
just smile a lot, wear a lot of products in your hair (a lot of girls will fuck you if you're clean and smell good, that's their only qualifier), and basically try to become the embodiment of this kind of music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_nvWreIhg


don't think of it as sex. think of it as "sexytimes"

>>7285984
Ah, so being seen as desperate for sex isn't bad at all then, okay thanks for clearing that up chief

>>7286008
>try to become the embodiment of this kind of music
He wants to fuck women, not men.

>>7285763
dont have one, see you at reddit fam

>>7285998
>If you own yourself and your looks and behavior, you will have a much better chance of coming across as sexually appealing.

The Universal cure for anxiety.

>>7286015
that's your problem

>>7285790
>failing to account for the users who don't make content

>>7286017
i'll give you an upboat for being so persistent and desperate itt fam

>>7285996
Ideally we should live in a world where guys just get things done and have hot gay sex all day, while women are corralled into massive underground breeding facilities, with no other function than to continuously give birth through artificial insemination to keep the human race alive.

>>7285492

Hey man the reason you are a massive faggot loser is because you don't talk to those grills. Literally you're an idiot. You're into /lit aren't you? Work it to your fucking advantage. Read something classic on the aesthetics of beauty and then quote that shit assertively and confidently to the pussies and they'll be gagging for it. Don't fall into the trap of letting people tell you you're a faggot and believing it. If you lay down so humble poetry about what it is to be beautiful and then slam all h8ers down as shallow idiots who will probably die cause they didn't cross the road you will be swimming in pussy. Worked for me. Even though your physique may be beta your mind is alpha and grills like the alpha you just gotta make them aware that it exists! So stop being such a pitiful fool and complaining to FGTchan about your problems and go out and face them irl before you become another spaghetti spilling neckbeard like the rest of us. Faggit.

>>7285784
>y'know, making themselves more attractive.
>>7285785
>charming women all has to do with selling yourself.
>>7286008
>just smile a lot, wear a lot of products in your hair (a lot of girls will fuck you if you're clean and smell good, that's their only qualifier), and basically try to become the embodiment of this kind of music
>>7286101
>slam all h8ers down

How do you deal with having to dehumanize yourself so badly just to get your dick into a pussy? I'd rather just jack off.

>>7286129
I don't dehumanise myself I'm just alpha af. Maybe that's dehumanised to you but that makes you a post-rationalising beta who wishes he was alpha but doesn't have the stones to do it. Enjoy jackin off fgt whilst i'm boning your sister.

>>7285492
Reading books and not knowing women are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but they can be depending on your situation.

Forget the judgements on our part and on the part of your peers. What you have to know, op, is that you're probably will have to spend time on it if you really wanna link up wth women. You're going to have to work out, you're going to have do things that improve you social status. All theses things cost time and discipline that will be subtracted to your time available for reading.

You could say none of theses thing work, and there's a probably that you could be right. But then it follows logically that there isn't really anything that you could you do to change your situation. If you reach this situation, you can become a frog robot or you can accept that whatever you are now is what you probably will be.

Remember, no man ever became insane (neither depressive) because he didn't have sex. Ressentment and hatred of the world seem to be responses way more commom.

>>7286144
>doesn't dehumanize himself
>refers to himself as "alpha"

kek

>>7286129
>I'd rather just jack off.

why dont you go do that then fam, and leave us the fuck alone

>>>/hc/ is that way

>>7286153
how is that dehumanising?

Remember OP it's all just looks, money, status, you need to have something out of those. The 4th option is basically to trick a girl into believing you have it.

>>7286153 >>7286158
Also wtf with the definition of "dehumanising"? Fucking ridiculous, like it's not human to be evil? Evil is a concept that humans invented.

>>7286158
a reflex response where one refers to himself by a nonsensical broad term as a primary signifier of his identity. literally a c-u-c-k

>>7286167
>Evil is a concept that humans invented.

wrong

Stop taking yourself so seriously. Trivialize yourself a bit, nobody gives a fuck about your actual or authentic intentions.

Stop assuming everyone is as aware of what others are thinking/doing.

Take initiative, most people are just waiting for everyone else to do shit for them.

>>7285492
>why THE FUCK does lit pretend that I'm not a total loser?

Nobody ever said that faggot. Lit is very sexual as a board, they just don't fall for the meme of neo-hedonism.

You are the one wasting your life because you know you are.

>>7286101

Op here. I'm actually a really built 6' nerd. I'm srs. /fit/ is full of Chads pretending to be robots. When I was a fitizen I was authentic in my lack of girls

The truth is that you want to think of yourself as a loser, so whatever I say to you won't make you feel better. The truth is that your situation is completely normal and there's nothing unacceptable or unnatural about it, otherwise it wouldn't be possible in the first place. The truth is that you are just as self-centered as anyone, but don't have the balls to admit it, accept it and go with it. The truth is that what you feel you lack is just an excuse. The truth is that no matter how much you hate yourself, all shitting on yourself does is make you feel more unique or special or important. The truth is that, as you already know, only you can help yourself, and can others can help but only if you let them. The truth is that whatever "pathetic" situation you are feels more secure to you than the alternative, which is why you don't go for it. The truth is that security is a lie and your life could end at any second now. The truth is that being a loser is still better than not being to you, which is why you don't take your life; meaning your life isn't really unbearable. The truth is that there are no maxims you can hold on to, or that will tell you what you are or what to do.

>>7285761
yeah, kinda sucks but ah well.

it's still annoying how sometimes i manage to delude myself into thinking i'll find a mate.

beta9K has ruined this board. It's gone.

>>7286259
Bitching about bitching is still bitching, bitch.

>>7286267
what you said +1 haha xD. (le dot represents my acne)

But seriously it has. Fuck off scum

>>7286286
You are still bitching. Quit wasting bandwith, get your head out of your ass and start contributing, the board won't make itself better.

>>7286301
Hippocratic oath fam

>>7286286
Just because something ruined something else doesn't mean that the first thing should leave the second.

Ex. My dick and your mom's cunt

>>7286316
kill self

>>7286311
The hell's that gotta do with this? Why are you still wasting both our time?

>>7285492

fuck off back to your robot script board

>>7286347
dig dig

>>7286259
hello 2015 poster, I hope you've been enjoying this board all summer but it's fall now so I think it's time for you to go

>>7286362
what makes you think that?

>>7285492
try not being a little bitch to be honest

>>7286217
pics or fuck off fatty fuggo

>>7285834
This is autistic af but I relate. I could reccomend some good phil that could show you how silly the authenticity/inauthenticity dichotomy is: Derrida, Nancy, maybe even the late Heidegger. But yeah, it's shitty, and I hate the feeling of fakeness, the weird awkward body awareness etc. that comes with talking to someone you're attracted to.

>>7286184
Explain. I am open to your opinion

>>7286217
I think your problem then maybe due to a lack of confidence with women. Easiest way past it in my eyes is treat them as you would a friend. I find if you assume the best in people then you tend to get the best out of them. And in doing so, they value their time with you because they feel that you value their opinions and don't see em as real dolls with an unpredictability firmware upgrade. Actually make friends with them. The friendzone may exist by it's got many exits. Better to go through the friendzone than be embargoed completely right? Plus, when you do reach the other side, the sex is way ben through the friendzone together. And then if you can't get friendzoned then you'd never of been able to fuck em anyway so it's a waste of time even thinking about it. Having said that remember that he who dares wins (sometimes) so be prepared to fail and eager to try. Perseverance is key. For us /litfags, all we can hope for is a nice qt3.14 that we can have a laugh with and lets us stick it in their butt on our birthdays.

>>7286401

OP here. I understand that friendzone is when the male hides his intentions and ends up expecting too much, its not strictly befriending them first.

But what if I befriend a grill, ask her out, then she says no? If I hang out with her, she'll have a smug superiority over me, and no doubt boast about it to her friends (the boast would take the form of making fun of me). If I instantly stop contacting her, I'll have revealed myself to be a bit of a Patrick Bateman wannabe if I befriended her and then cut contact instantly (and I'm not a PB,.I feel guilt).

I assume by befriend you mean a really shallow friendship before asking her out?

>>7286246
thanks anon, you're spot on

>>7286638
>If I instantly stop contacting her,
this is the only correct action tbh

the truth is that the pleasure of having a woman when one wants one is exceeded by the pleasure of not having a woman when one doesn't want anything to do with that shit

>>7286649
's cool, breau. Don't forget it's always too late to kill yourself and if you've made it this far it can't be that hard.

>>7285492
>and I talk to none of them
Why don't you talk to them?

It's not like having a conversation or getting laid is hard.

>>7286401
Any tips on assuming the best in people?
It gets so bad with me that I literally pretend to get in an argument with people who have done me no wrong, any I end up thinking of a million hurtful things to say to them.
I catch myself doing it when I wander off, obviously thinking like that has a negative effect on how you act towards him/her.

>ITT: autism

>>7286650
>>7286638
nah this is level one stuff guys

you have to manufacture some other reason to no longer be friends/see each other and then pin the whole thing on that.

it doesn't even have to be that good of a reason, all you need is p l a u s i b l e deniability

>>7286738
you have to manufacture some other reason to no longer be friends/see each other and then pin the whole thing on that if you're a spineless little bitch*
ftfy no need to thank me everyone makes typos

Fucking frogposters, there is nothing wrong in being friends with girls. One of my closest friends is a girl. It would be nice to fuck her but it would mess up our friendship and I don't want that. There are other girls I'm friends with whom I don't want to fuck. Seeing interpersonal relationships through a lens of sexual relations is limiting.

Grow up and talk to some real people for once, then maybe you will stop shitting up this board.

>>7286825
>One of my closest friends is a girl. It would be nice to fuck her but it would mess up our friendship and I don't want that.

sure, lad. you're so alpha for wasting your time putting up with women and not getting anything at the end.

>>7286825
>real people
>real
You had me up until there.

>>7286843
Not all women are shit friends. A lot of them are, but not all of them.

>>7286843
>not getting anything at the end
>friendship
>someone to spend time with
>someone who will listen to me and vice versa
>anime watching buddy
>drinking buddy/wingman

That sounds like more than "nothing" to me.

>>7286876
it takes 1/10 of effort to find a guy who is superior at those

>>7286848
the best women take slightly longer to turn into shit than the worst.

they all eventually turn to shit though.

>>7285500
>>7285511
it's funny cos sex itself produced both society and spooks.

>>7285492

If you really wanna fuck a girl but don't have the balls break things into very small goals and then go from there fam.

I think you are forgetting that there are hot girls out there who like books. Your interests arent how you get girls, but they can be used to you know, talk to someone like a normal human being. Just stop being an autist and you can have both the women and the books.

>>7286945
50 shades of gray tier garbage doesn't count as a book

Kek no there's something very wrong with you, loser cunt. Go fuck.

I just really don't like talking to people. I've always been very socially anxious, I'm in my late 20s and it has never changed, maybe even gotten worse. I can't ever bring myself to say the first thing to someone or start conversation.

I've had sex with a few girls, but I stopped really pursuing it a few years ago. It requires tons of initiation and socializing, especially for men, and it's really not enjoyable at all to me except for the physical sex parts.

>>7286955
stop being an idiot dude and go outside

>>7285492
This isn't /r9k/ you stupid bitch. You came on here and shared with us your bitchass problems with some sort of edge >muh society. You're in your early 20s and still a child.

>I-I can't talk to g-g-girls
Fucking pussy.

>>7286988
even the physical part. It feels good yea, but the entire time it's like I can't suspend my disbelief.

like what the fuck am I doing here
ploughing meat
into meat
over and over
whamp whamp whamp
so weird

>>7287027
I don't even post on /r9k/ but christ some of you get so absolutely fucking rumpnuked that there are bitter young men out there. What's that, guys in their prime of their youth are angry because they're sexless virgins for whatever reason? Get the fuck outta town

you faggots wouldn't be talking half as tough if you were in their position.

>>7287051
I love plowing meat into meat to be completely damn honest

do you actually believe that sexual experiences are inherently worth having? does anyone actually believe this?

>>7286129
The only difference between saying what you want and saying what you think will give you the best reward is that the former strokes your narcissism. You may think you have a precious personality that deserves to be reveal to a romantic other but sex/dating isn't about you; it's about how you interact with others and, from their perspective, what you can give them. It's only dehumanizing if you think you're more important than the "you" that the other person interacts with.

>>7287065
>you faggots wouldn't be talking half as tough if you were in their position.

You're right, I wouldn't be talking at all if I was in his position. I'd shut the fuck up, and learn how to tie a noose to kill myself with for being such a pathetic loser

>>7287325
dude wow

just epic

>>7287333
Nice meme

>>7287065
My main problem with r9k is that they spread their shitty frogposting throughout the site and see the world through such an un-examined ideological lens. I wish some of the people with anxiety disorders would get treatment for that so they don't spend their whole lives bitter.