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Is there such a genre as an invented but contemporary world? That is to say, a world with modern technology, unrelated to our world, and with no science fiction or fantasy elements?
I've seen stories with these ideas, for instance 'Wings of Honnêamise', but I have no idea what to call them.

>> No.7256157

>>7256153
There are uchronias, as the Man in the High Castle

>> No.7256160

>>7256157
>the Man in the High Castle

/pol/'s utopia

>> No.7257106

>>7256157
This is a very interesting term, but from what I can tell, a uchronia is still set on Earth.
Because its not on earth, would what I described in the OP be pigeon holed into fantasy even if it doesn't have magic?

>> No.7257987

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>> No.7258020

>>7257106
How can it possibly be a modern world unrelated to ours and not be some sort of science fiction?

Do you mean a world where technology is the same, people, animals, all the same, it's just the geography and history that are different?
If you just think about this for a minute you'll see that it's stupid.

>> No.7258046

>>7256153
I don't recall any books like what you say, but the Ace Combat games I played some time ago were just like that, mainly in order to have more space for creative writing concerning countries invading or bombing other countries and avoiding people to get pissed off, I guess. It's not really a very imaginative setting in my opinion.

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>>7256157
>>7257106

>> No.7258288

>>7258020
I don't think its any more "stupid" than creating a fantasy world that just happened to develop knights and feudalism just like earth. And I don't mean it has to be exactly like our world, just roughly in this era of development.

>> No.7258325

>>7258288
History does not move forward. We are not more advanced than 500 years ago and we won't be even 500 years from now, not because certain things won't change, but because what makes something to be understood as advanced is precisely how we include these changes in the narrative we create for history. Don't fall for the trap of thinking that history has built up to this moment, that things ought to be that way, or that aliens would have a medieval time, an industrial age, they'd invent the radio, then tv...

I think you and others in this thread are looking at it the wrong way, when discussing whether something is sci-fi, or in the past or in the future. The stories OP talk about will necessarily merge anachronic elements, out of their geography as well. Every story speaks to us and what we know of the world. Cowboy Bebop is set in space, but with regular bullet guns and convenience stores as we know them. They don't even have cell phnes. It is unnecessary to understand it as neither fantasy, sci-fi or some form of magical realism. It's not a parallel world, not even a "what if" situation with the pretension of predicting outcomes in a logical sense. The value to these stories is that we are able to relate to them on a very close to home way and at the same time be at some place entirely new. You ease on the predictions and allow yourself to be surprised. It's what makes Harry Potter feel old and contemporary at the same time. You're always playing with elements of our own history, because that's all that we have to recognize.