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Greetings Anons,

The past few weeks I've been think about some of the passages I read from Carl Jung's, "Man and His Symbols." Particularly I've been thinking about the way that, according to Jung, certain symbols have subconscious significance due to what he calls, The Collective Unconscious. My thoughts are along the lines of theism, and how we think about spirituality as humans.

My question is this: Is there any literature (at least that /lit/ knows of) that focuses on theism/spiritual belief as a result of the human collective unconscious?

I personally don't think that I believe (or disbelieve, for that matter) in a higher power/god, but I do think it's a crucial part of who we are as humans.

All responses helpful! Thanks /lit/

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>> No.7238776

Joseph Campbell - Hero with a Thousand Faces; The Power of Myth

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>>7238776
I was under the impression that HWaTF had more to do with the structure of Heroic Myth, does it also have to do with the anthropological side of spirituality?

>> No.7238812

>>7238789
It's a work of comparative mythology so while it contends there is a common structure, it utilises various mythologies' heroes to illustrate it. The Power of Myth has a lot of overlap, but it's a follow up.
The Masks of God also follows his monomyth theory and gets cited by those who want a universal Christ myth, and it's about as anthropological as the other two, but might be closer to what you're looking for if you want it to be more limited to godheads than just common spiritual tropes below that of a god.
>tl;dr, yes

>> No.7238814

>>7238768
Hegel.

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>>7238812
Thanks, I will definitely give this a read! I've also heard of some fun postmodern things that John Barthe has done with Campbell's ideas.

>>7238814
Not sure if this is b8, should I actually look into Hegel?

>> No.7238873

>>7238842
Not if you don't have a philosophical background (in his texts he just assumes you know all the terms he employs). But still his concept of God is pretty much definitive.

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>>7238768
op here.

In addition, does anyone feel like they have a significant counter-point to this concept? or even to Jung's C.U.?

Aside from Stirner of course.

>> No.7238957

>>7238907
Yea, I'd say that, as far as myths go, the variety is so great that any hybridization into a single monomyth is bound to be nothing more than cloudgazing. kind of like borges' library of babel. any common theme is really just you reading into it..

Alternatively, if you could prove some recurring themes (something I think you might be able to do), it's possible to see things in a "meme" way (actually). Like certain ideas and mythological constructs seem ubiquitous because they relate to people, not because of an unconscious force.

We're not unified by some shadowy unconscious essence, but by the reality of our shared human experiences, which, despite all their variety, are really very similar in their basic elements—similar enough to make similar myths pop up around the globe.

That's why I kind of don't believe in it