/lit/ - Literature

>>7233783
>>7233892
These are the best by a wide margin.

>>7234057
t. guy who posted them

If you guys haven't read Candide you really need to check it out.

>>7234084

>>7234089
Dumping what I got, most are from the sticky

>>7234094

>>7234114

;)

>>7234128

>>7234138

>>7233749
Garbo list if I ever saw one.

>>7234143

Does anyone have a copy of the Christian one? thanks

Does anyone have the poetry one, it was just pictures of the poets

>>7234217

>>7234068

>the particular sadness of a lemon cake

what a title

>>7234167

Where the fuck is Krazy Kat?

>>7234114
Which of these would I be able to read in the original language after taking a year of French in college?

is there any /lit/ guide to patrician literature?

>>7234371
None, you stupid man

>>7234248
>no liberation theology
Oh.

>>7234554
I've only been here a few days, but apparently it's:

"The Greeks"
Ulysses
Finnegans Wake
Gravity's Rainbow

>>7234582
Not even The Little Prince?

Bump

>>7234554
Guide to atheism *tips fedora* patricians are more reasonable & enlightened than the unwashed masses.

>>7233749
>Imperialism
>literally a piece of propaganda to convince Russian peasants that Marxism isn't being disproven before their eyes
>can be refuted by a 12 year old

/pol/-tier

>>7235221
best one by a fucking margin

>>7235211
>Leninism being bad means all Marxism being bad

mot really fam

There should just be an imgr with all of these posted for easy acess and download!

>>7235238
Maybe, but at least here we can discuss and shitpost about each of the guides.

I don't know if this one has already been posted.

>>7234094
Anyone know of any good contemporary stuff coming out of Russia?

>>7235265
Dugin

>>7235264
Any word on pollster anon's new 2015 guide that he/she is working on?

>>7235264
C'mon man we gotta stop posting that image, or at least shorten it down. Half those books are on the list because they got a single vote.

>>7235234
My point is that Imperialism was supposed to cover Marxism's ass because the conditions of the proletariat were steadily improving, not deteriorating. Lenin tried to demonstrate that capital was being taken to other countries by presenting the numbers in a misleading way.

>>7235280
Thread is open for votes until the 22nd
>>7227376

>>7235302
Yee give me a TL;DR on the thread though. How is the competition going? 22 is soon so just revive thread for the resulting image.

>>7235308
It's going well 300+ votes.
Might need a graphic designer, OP want's to slam it together in paint.

Current results from 1hr ago.
>>7235001
OP is also asking for pictures of authors, post a few up and help the cause.

>>7235231
>Right wing lit
>Kurt Vonnegut

>>7235355
>Austen shit-tier
>Dickens and Franzen OK
I'm starting to root for climate change.

>>7235355
This chart's basis for placing certain authors in certain tiers seems completely fucking incoherent to me.

>>7235355
Where is Wolfe on that chart?

>>7235340
eh, Harrison Bergeron, taken in a vacuum, can be pretty reasonably and straightforwardly interpreted as anti-egalitarian

>>7234656
+ Infinity Jest

>>7235385
It's only anti-egalitarian if you are a /pol/lack looking for confirmation of your beliefs without considering it within the context it was written. Many left wing authors have criticized elements of the left not with the intention of denouncing it but making it more humanitarian. Harrison Bergeson isn't a right wing criticism.

>>7234335
No idea anon.

Bump

>>7234643
>>>/tumblr/

>>7235467
I'm a socialist and I think it's a pretty reasonably funny satire of some (perceived) aspects of socialism.

Vonnegut is clearly a left-wing writer but I don't think it's totally ridiculous to call Harrison Bergeron a short story from a relatively right-wing perspective.

>>7236057
>I'm a socialist
this website is 18+
:/

>>7236063
I'm 28. I bet half of /pol/ would become socialists if they actually had to get jobs tbh.

>>7236081
Its actually the other way around, people who are older and have earned more are more right wing, socialists tend to be younger college kids who have not had to work and do not want to join the workforce
Socialism is for peole who dont have jobs but think their entitled to other peoples property

Can we get a leftypol list since we got one from rightypol? :D

>>7236110
>leftys
>being able to read
>being knowledgeable and informed enough to appreciate art
gibbes me dat privilege white boy

>>7236101
Every single committed socialist I know IRL has a full-time job.

>>7236123
Starbucks barista, and other low IQ jobs doesn't count

>>7236129
Why not?

>>7236140
They are thinking what they want, now what is right.
Obviously the poor will want handouts from the government and more welfare instead of wanting to actually work to attain that. THat is the fundementally problem of democracy, Churchill knew it, Thatcher knew it, Rand knew it, and soon you too will understand it

>>7236149
I'm guessing you are 18 and jobless. Go with God, comrade.

>>7236172
>implying im not 21 getting a degree in finance this fall
>implying I didnt do an internship and wont get a job paying 70k by june
>implying I didnt take Micro AND macro economics and get an A in both and can easily see how socialism is BS
>implying I'm not smarter than you

>>7236183
I don't know why you're so aggressive, man. Maybe because you're entering an exploitative industry that justifies its salaries with theoretical bullshit? Here's hoping Glass-Steagall gets reintroduced, transaction taxes get slapped on Wall Street, half your industry or more gets socialized, and you lose your job or your salary drops precipitously.

Anyway I majored in math and tutor kids in micro and macro, have for five years. I'm a Keynesian-Minskyite democratic socialist, not a Marxist, but it doesn't seem like you draw distinctions.

>>7236195
>n exploitative industry that justifies its salaries with theoretical bullshit?
we dont need to justify our salaries to anybody you fucking cuck, the market dictates them because our skills are actually worth something
also
>Keynesian-Minskyite democratic socialist,
m-maybe if I through out enough big words people will think im an intellectual
Hows that socialism working out for you in south american? How about the USSR?
lmao libcucks are so fucking delusional

>>7236195
>Keynesianism
>2015

>>7236212
You most definitely did not get an A in macro if that's your reaction to Keynes. Guessing you have no idea who Minsky is or what he contributed to the field of economics.

>They are thinking what they want, now [sic] what is right.
Hm.

okay everyone stfu & post more guide's

>>7236235

Does anyone else feel overwhelmed by the amount of books they have left to read before they become comprehensive in a topic?

>>7236183
Can one be a bigger faggot.

>>7236222
Keynesian economics has prevented capitalism from imploding on itself several times now. Ancap please go.

>>7236355
The implosion of our economies is literally caused by government intervention.

>>7236399

>rewind to 2008
>Multiple multinational banks in the United States are on the verge of defaulting, requiring massive cash injections
>US auto industry on the verge of collapse
>US gov steps in and bails out both industry at egregious taxpayer expense, thus preventing the essential collapse of the US economy and, by extension, world economy

m-muh free markets, m-muh unregulated Wall Street.

Alan Greenspan pls go

>>7236424
Without the government the banks would not have taken those risks

Without the government the auto industry would have been able to destroy the entitled unions that made them unable to compete

CAN WE GET SOME LISTS RELEVANT TO THE THREAD? HAYEK FANS POST LIBERTARIAN LISTS. CUCKEYNESIANS POST CUCK LIT. JUST STAY ON TOPIC FOLKS

>>7236399
This has literally never, ever been true.

>>7236399
Explain how. Time isn't going to force capitalist pigs to behave altruistically.

>>7236435
>buying books that the government takes taxes on
>not just reading a section of https://mises.org/ daily

>>7236424
...Thus leading to a massive misallocation of resources.

Business failure is crucial for an efficient economy. We can't have shit banks or businesses around. Unfortunately there are a greater amount of them due to government bullshit that prevents competition.

>>7236436
>>7236439
see
>>7236432
>>7236444

>>7236432
>Without the government the auto industry would have been able to destroy the entitled unions that made them unable to compete
Are you suggesting that when corporations have no checks on them (from unions or the government) they will behave in the common interest?

>>7236447
Yes. Wouldn't it be crazy if we figured this out, like, over 200 years ago?

>>7236447
>Are you suggesting that when corporations have no checks on them (from unions or the government) they will behave in the common interest?
>no checks
I never said that
People can keep corperations in check by voting with their dollars
Dont like a companies environmental practices?
Dont buy there product
Boom, no statist intervention needed

Are you suggesting that the government is a altruistic god that always does the wright thing?
Protip: The government doesn't care about you, all they care about is the property that you own, and by being a "citizen" they inturn own

>>7233768
is this good? Op's list does not inspire confidence tbh

very glad that my brief mention of Keynes in this thread has triggered an influx of /pol/ posters who have never actually taken a single macroeconomics class

>>7236454
>Dont like a companies environmental practices?
>Dont buy there product
No one is doing this now and no one would be doing it without government.

>>7235293
Not in 1917 they weren't. And they aren't anymore

>>7233791
For How to Read a Book, should i read the revised edition or without the revision? It is heavily revised btw.

>>7236212

I find it funny how you're resorting to meaningless insults like "cuck".

Capitalist society has conditioned you into thinking your skills are worth something, where in actuality, the only skills that are really "worth something" are skills that produce.

>Hows that socialism working out for you in south american? How about the USSR?

There are many, many 'right-wing' civilizations that failed as well.

>>7235355
Austen is "Level 0"? Somebody's a NEET.

>>7236101
Socialists tend to make less money, and hence believe more strongly in a working class/lower middle class collective. Anybody who has advanced their station in life will be more likely a Capitalist.

>>7236295
Yes.

>>7236399
Well in the case of Cltinon repealing Glass-Seagull after Regan's prodigious deregulating spree, then yes, yes it does.

>>7236583
> meaningless insults like "cuck"
>"t-there is nothing wrong with being a cuck g-guys its 2015, and its o-ok for my wife to fuck black bulls sometimes, i-it doesn't mean she doesnt love me"*preps BBC* "Ok sweetie Tyrone is ready for you!!"

>>7236616
this

>>7236532
Is macroeconomics in any way superior to microeconomics? Or is "muh abstractions" really so important?

Why are there still Marxists on this board

>>7236669
We founded the place. Go back to /new/

>>7234084
Also, the musical version of Candide by Bernstein is pretty based too.

>>7236669
because Marxists are generally more well-read.

>>7233783
>NYRB seriously did a movie cover once
Why even live?

>>7235355
>McCarthy is tier 2
Nigga must have only read The Road. Blood Meridian is more than "moderately unorthodox."

>>7236444
What about the unemployment rate spiking, in spite of the businesses saved? What do you think would have happened to the economies of all of those businesses were allowed to crash at once?
>What is the Great Depression?

>>7236454
Because manipulation by consumer spending is what stopped the horrible human rights abuses of big corporations in the late 19th and early 20th century, right? Or are you suggesting that the working conditions back then were okay?

>>7236183
Micro AND Macro? A in both?
Hold on guys; this 21-year old finance major is basically Milton fucking Friedman. Lets listen to his brilliant insights into political economy.

>>7236823
Have you even been to collage yet mate?

Why don't you retarded cucks realise that if corporations had ultimate power over the state and the people we'd live in utopia? You fucking leftys really suck the dick of big fucking government you retards

>>7236925

Jesus fucking Christ I wanted a nice thread about books not 50 replies of /pol/

Fuck off faggots

people are missing that the accessibility chart ranks authors according to their accessibility, not their quality... although the definition of the tiers suggests more accessible = worse, which is dumb.

Lets get back to infographics

>>7236992
ty this is useful to me

>>7236666
what I meant was that you could get an A in micro hating or ignoring Keynes - not possible in macro. both are interesting fields with some major flaws yet to work out in the way they are taught and learned though

>>7236992
>no based L Ron Hubbard
Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

>>7235355
vonnegut shit tier

ok m8

>>7235162
Jules Verne, Candide, and especially The Little Prince are all more accessible than the other books on that chart.

>>7236242
The Road, The catcher in the rye and Fear and loathing in Las Vegas are actually bad though, but I guess you can read all those books for their influence on literature.

>>7237222
they're all good, actually

>>7235355
Didn't see Cocteau on there. Would he be Level 4?

>people using 'cuck' without a shred of irony

Irony is a cuck-reddit spook. Fedoras.

/lit/ is the most insecure board on 4chan

>>7238165
I don't think most people actually care. It's just an imaginary game for the sake of shitposting.

>>7238057
>people posting frogs without a shred of irony

>>7236242
seriously what is so great about Catcher in the Rye? It was like angsty emo teenager: the book. I thought the protagonist was one big fkn fagget I really did : ^)

>>7238165

>>7234128
Someone should add Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks into that empty slot at the end

hey are all of these (or most) in the archive? Some of them seem really interesting but I can't save them just now.

>>7239286
fugging liberals :DDDD stealig our freedobs because they ain't strong :DDDD praise jesus

>>7234179
>Viking books
>Kalevala

Years ago I downloaded ZIPs of great compilations like these here on /lit/.

Anyone still make these? I got so much good stuff that way.
Maybe a torrent to some decent compilations?

>>7235355
this list is shit tbh, use this if you want to be True Patrician

>>7239605
There were a couple threads recently that had some links, but I checked my history and it looks like they've 404ed. I could be wrong though.

>>7233749
Why no Materialism and Empiriocriticism?

>>7236949
>collage

have you?

Where's a Smug Pill chart?
>tfw living in a realm of ideological nihilism
>tfw you have no actual opinions
>tfw you are completely inauthentic for the sake of feeling superior

>>7239642
>>7239605
bumb

>>7233825
Is this legit, I'm trying to get into books (/tv/ passenger coming thru)

Does anyone have one for short story collections?

>>7239841
It is. Range of authors, genre's and themes. Plus all of those authors are regularly mentioned on /lit/.

>>7239841
>>7239871
Yes, this one is better, and more accurately reflects /lit/, than the starter kit on the wiki.

>>7233892
You forgot this one

Translations

Dante translations

>>7239957
I was looking for this one, thanks.

>>7235378
Level four, AND they misspelled his name! because they couldn't have meant to put V. Woolf there

>>7239957
Thank you.

And thank you to everyone who posted a guide in this thread.

>>7235280
>Dugin
kek
>>7235265
quit 4chan, ask that question elsewhere. In the meantime, try this:
http://lizoksbooks.blogspot.de/2013/05/the-doors-of-deception-pelevins-burning.html

>>7239278
Unreliable narrator loosing his sense of idealism and being unable to cope. Its interesting and gives me perspective on my younger self.

>>7236454
Implying people will behave in their collective logical interest

>>7233749

>>7233749

>>7240177
Why is The Idiot on this

>>7240253

No doubt; Demons is much more descriptive.

bump

>>7239395
dude irony lmao

>>7239635
>all those French psuedos

>>7239731
>tfw can't form opinions because you understand both sides
>tfw everything makes sense and nothing makes sense at the same time
>tfw living separately from the world in a comfy irony bubble

>>7235367
it's not shit tier on top and god tier on bottom learn to read, tardo

>>7241347
>this tier lacks any semblance of substance
learn to read, tardo

>>7234248
>C.S. Lewis

Every goddamn time.

>>7236616
Cringe

>>7241449
He's not Augustine or Kierkegaard, but he's still important. Many many people have read him over the last decades, for example.

>>7235285
Your welcome.

>>7236978
>>7236978
>>7236978
>>7236978
>>7236978
>>7236978
>>7236978

>>7238237
>greentext

>>7242610
>The Complete Father Brown
>Serious, not comical
Que?

>>7242614
Never read Chesterton, just dumping.
Better than /pol/ flaming, no?

>>7235238
imgr -> /U4OHY
>>7235259
Shitpost away.

>>7242696

>>7242698

yo bump

>>7233825
Why is this kit so much better than the ridiculous version of the "Lit Starter Kit" you usually find here?

>>7243838
probably because the books on it are better

>>7243838
The lit starter kit all looks like books I read in high school. I think it's more 'books literally every person should have already read' instead of a 'first step to becoming well read' like most people want/

>>7236564
plz?

>>7239286
Le ad homenim xD

Is there a good list of books about physical isolation?
Space, sea, desert island, anything goes.

>>7244019
Lord of the Flies and Life of Pi

You guys ever do 100 books in 100 days challenge?

Or something similar?

>>7244104
That sounds really stupid.
quality > quantity

>>7244114
So you never push yourself?

I'm devoting my life to reading only one book.

Quality > Quantity

>>7244115
Rushing to read books within a timeframe means you can't give them the attention and thought they deserve.

>>7234167
maus?
Maus?!
MAUS?!!!
MAAAAAAUUUS!!!
MAUSMAUSMAUSMAUS MAUUUUUUUUUUS!!!!!!!

>>7239841
I made that chart and I admit I was a bit new here at the time. There is a couple changes I would make to it but its generally legit

>>7239841
Don't read the Odyssey without reading the Iliad

I really need that one with the proper order to read the greek poems / tragedies

>>7245638
Maus reporting

>>7245681
Iliad - Homer
Odyssey - Homer
Theogony - Hesiod
Work and Days - Hesiod
Homeric Hymms
Odes - Pindar
Oresteia - Aeschylus
Theban Plays (Antigone, Oedipus the King, Oedipus at Colunus) - Sophocles
Medea, Heracles - Euripides

>>7245711
Danke

>>7234138
>no Heinrich Böll
>no Thomas Bernhard
>no Max Frisch

come on, anon

>>7236466
OP here, I didn't post that.

>>7234147
What's wrong with it? Besides le ebil gommies.

>>7245717
For your folder (and mine)

bump

>>7237148
he's right though

>>7242702
Holy mother of Christ

"old school fantasy"
>A Midsummer Night's Dream
>Grimm's fairy tales
>The odyssey
Oh my fucking god

>Godtier multi-volumes
>GoT
>Stephen king
>Prince of Nothing series
Jesus assfucking Christ
>Same multiseries being in the shit tier as the god tier

Please never post this chart again

>>7235355
I was triggered by this list until I realized that it's a bit too stupid to be serious. I mean, it's a really subtle bait, good job.

>>7236454
>People can keep corperations in check by voting with their dollars
>Dont like a companies environmental practices?
>Dont buy there product
>Boom, no statist intervention needed
BWAHAHAHAHAHA WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU LIVE

>>7234656
>Greeks

>>7236183
Oh, wow. Has your Econometrica paper been accepted for review?

>>7239841
Yeah, it's fine.

But read the Iliad before the Odyssey

>>7247415
?

>>7236432
You mean like in the 1920s? Are you also going to tell us the housing bubble happened because Jimmy Carter made banks loan more money to black people?

>>7236454
This almost never happens. We've known this since the paper mills started dumping their waste in the rivers and streams in the 1800s. Do they simply not teach people about externalities at George Mason?

>>7236967
You should be humbler than that in defeat.

>>7234167
Cerebus and love and rockets. This list is chill

>>7234114
>Nothomb
>French
ignorant

>>7234133
are any of these actually good for wanking?

>>7240177
How much of this is bullshit?

>>7240131

>>7233800
>mfw i just finished reading pedro páramo two days ago
>i have no face

>>7247897
I've read like a third of them and no. They have the kind of sex that kills tour boners.

>>7234133

Where's House of Holes?

>>7236351

could be that it's 4:30 in the morning but the phrasing of this gave me a kek

>>7236454
Wow you are retarded lol. I'm glad to see /pol/fags getting BTFOd all over 4chan now. I guess people are starting to get overwhelmingly tired of your shit.

Charts should include recommended or at least a list of noteworthy translations.

Especially for classic works.

>>7236669
Can someone explain the "don't step on me" snake?

I saved some images because I thought they were funny, but I'm still not too sure what the snake's original purpose was intended to be.

>>7249363
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join,_or_Die
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadsden_flag

It was a symbol from the American Revolution that was appropriated by Libertarians.

>>7249383
Thanks anon!

For some reason I thought it was somehow associated with the Union and KKK stuff

>>7247196
No he is not.. Vonnegut is dope af

>>7234114
Bien trop de moderne, bien trop de merde.

bump

>>7235355
>>7235355
>Huxley
>Lacks any semblance of substance
If the point of this chart was to make me upset someone has succeeded

bump

more essentials pls.

>>7233825
Why would you put the Great Gatsby on that list?

Maybe it was just high school that killed it for me, but I find Tolkien's prose more engaging than the Great Gatsby. Good book to read when you're having trouble falling asleep though.

>>7248851
nice

>>7251958
At the time it was written Gatsby's surreal prose was considered almost post-modern. You've probably grown used to a lot of the imagery and techniques used but honestly at one time it was cutting edge.

>>7248851
i've also read it not too long ago. it was pretty depressing. nothing about it was happy or heartwarming. i loved it

>>7252884
>At the time it was written Gatsby's surreal prose was considered almost post-modern.

No it wasn't. The book didn't become popular until much later.

>>7242698
>including Cooper and Stein
>including Upton Sinclair and Theodore Dreiser
>including plath and harper fucking lee
shit chart

>>7251958
Because it's entry-lit?

>>7247897

Anias nin.. Couple pages stuck together on my copy tbh..

>>7233768
ok, I'll be the idiot in the room... what is the whole deal with Western Occultism? Is there a common origin point or is it just re-invented bullshit like modern paganism?

>>7234089
I'm half way through invitation to a beheading and I'm utterly lost and confused as hell... is there something I'm missing?

>>7235221
Spengler gets a bad rep because hicks take one look at the title, pick it up and start shouting "See! See! I was right!"

Decline of the West is about how civilizations reach a plateau.

>>7255178
>Spengler
I prefer Venkman

>>7234167
>no books of doom
>no dr. strange and dr. doom: triumph & torment
>no spiderman. blue
>no kraven's last hunt
>no marvel 1602
>no god loves, man kills
>no otherside
>no wolverine: origin
>no miss don't touch me
>no batman: broken city
>no magneto testament
>no godzilla: half century war
>no nikopol

Sorry if some of the ones I mentioned are already in there but damn

>>7236399
This is not, and will never, be true you fucking armchair economists.

>>7235355
The second to last is actually male porn actor.
7/10

>>7255602
>dat slave mentality

Any entry-core charts that don't involve Harry Potter or other memes?