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best analytic philosopher

second best philosopher (second to the best continental: kierkegaard )

with these to you can simultaneously rationally understand things and feel things passionately and it's a pleasant way to live

best philosopher period

>>7231348
how you can agree with wittgenstein and yet still be religious is beyond me

>>7231380
>how you can agree with wittgenstein and yet still be religious
Not him, but Wittgenstein is heavy on the mystical himself.

>>7231340
nice philosopher, but his whole 'metaphysic is a hack' stuff really got on my nerves.

>>7231354
If you want autism - albeit, constructive and useful autism, read his Remarks on Mathematics.

>>7231391
But metaphysics is a hack

>>7231340
He was the best analytic philosopher and in the top 10 smartest people to ever live.

>>7231380
u just went full foolishness! wittgenstein was extremely religious. he would read scripture to soldiers and used to work in a monastery. only in his college days was he an atheist


witt against scientism:
http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/regulars/ray-monk-wittgenstein

>>7231402
>and in the top 10 smartest people to ever live.

>>7231385
I distinctly remember somewhere saying that he wanted to have faith yet found no logical ground supporting it. He _wanted_ to be mystical, but not that he necessarily was.

>>7231415
>I distinctly remember somewhere saying that he wanted to have faith yet found no logical ground supporting it
So you distinctly remember reading a load of bollox

>>7231413
I don't think you know anything about Wittgenstein

>>7231415
You got memed
For real
Thats like attributing "should i kill myself or drink coffe" to camus
memes are dangerous

>>7231411
> foolishness! wittgenstein was extremely religious.

That's an exaggeration, he prayed and read but never engaged in any group worship or organized religion and ragged on Aristotle.

average philosopher, pretty overrated

>>7232126
i simply don't understand why /lit/ worships him!?

>>7231340

Technically, he ended philosophy.

From what I've read about him, what is the point of reading TLP if he just takes back what he says in the book later on in his life?

>>7232126
what makes a philosopher "average"?

>>7231380
Haven't you heard of Wittgensteinian fideism?

>>7231340
his philosphy is 3/10 but his eccentric mannerisms are 9/10 easily with dfw being 10/10

being the best analytic philosopher is like being the smartest retard. That said, he has at least some good work.

>>7231340
Technically, philosophy ended him.

How do I get into Wittgenstein? Any good introduction?

>>7231340
He is a god of language manipulation.

>>7231380
hi leddit

>>7231380
"G.E.M. Anscombe is the one who best understands my work." - Wittgenstein

Like all literary geniuses, from Shakespeare to Joyce to Pynchon, Wittgenstein was Catholic.

>>7232274
bump for answer

>>7231402
>He was the best analytic philosopher and in the top 10 smartest people to ever live.
he is a normie understanding his mediocrity

>>7232757
the fuck you think this is, /r9k/?

Is it possible to understand the Tractatus without any formal education on logic?

>>7232371
>Catholics claiming Joyce
You've got be fucking kidding me.

>>7232274
You read him

>>7232371
Wasnt that because she was his student?

I mean he wasnt a church goer and he tried to emigrate to the Soviet Union. These dont sound like something a Catholic would do

>>7232274
>>7232731
Read the SEP articles on referentialism, picture theory of meaning, theory of descriptions, dualism and verificationsim. You just need a basic understanding of these topics.

Next, read Philosophical Investigation and Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius by Ray Monk.

This should enable you to read whatever works of Wittgy you like and eventually apply his method to clear up confusion in other philosophers.

>>7232777
>Is it possible to understand _________

I don't know, is it?

a lot of lame developments that I'm completely bored of largely started - or congealed - with Wittgenstein. like basically you get to a dead end in theory and art until you learn how to get past him (while still being able to use what he does contribute to an appropriate extent)

So can i read Wittgenstein as my first philosophy? or should i start with the Greeks?

>>7234292
You should have at least some background understanding of philosophy in general otherwise you won't understand why he's important.

>>7232777
literally

no

>>7233240
He's the end point of philosophy though

>>7234398
Is it enough to know the basics? Like an introductory collage course?

>>7231348
>second to the best continental: kierkegaard

HAHAHA, OH WOW

>>7234292
You'll get fucking wrecked

Wittgenstein fanboyism is pure autism. He's like a shitty Hegel for analytics and much less interesting too.

Protip: his only significant contributions were to math, literally nobody gives a fuck about his philosophy

>>7232371
Joyce only became Catholic on his deathbed. Shakespeare would have renounced his religion if he lived today and became a movie director. Pynchon is a memester, and Wittgenstein wanted to -- but ultimately didn't -- believe in God.

>>7232777
Yes. Witty was a human; you're a human. His book is a form of communication. You and him both share commonalities which allow for the transfer of information. Therefore, you are apt to understand his ideas. (Source: Philosophical Investigations)

>>7234459
4/10

>>7234406
>He's the end point of philosophy though

well, that is what buying into him would have you think, and what a terrible and simply incorrect notion that is

There can't be an end to the philosophy because philosophy doesn't need to be solved. Philosophy is literally a tool.

>>7232274
start with the greeks

>>7231380
have a reply

Exposure to the autistic master of language has made my life more difficult and better.

Read wittypants.

>>7231411
In his later writings, he claimed that what are grammatically statements about religious matters aren't factual propositions at all, and instead advocated an emotivist theory of religion.

>>7231340
Wittgentstein is hands down the best edgelord with all his pictures. On a serious note his work is bullshit but sure if you don't know logic it may look impressive.

>>7234694
Not even bait. Nobody in academic reads Wittgenstein for the TLP

>>7235590
TLP leads the way to PI leads the way to enlightenment

>>7235590

Ugh.

>>7235547

Double ugh.

>>7233219
nice