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7195185 No.7195185 [Reply] [Original]

Is there room for a philosopher like Nietzsche today? Could someone brilliant escape the academic system? Is it possible for a philosopher to also be a great writer in 2015?

>> No.7195192

Why not?

>> No.7195201

working on it OP, be patient

>> No.7195222

>>7195185
>Could someone brilliant escape the academic system
I would argue that someone really brilliant nowadays could only come from outside of academia

>> No.7195235

>Is there room for a philosopher like Nietzsche today? Could someone brilliant escape the academic system? Is it possible for a philosopher to also be a great writer in 2015?
yep yep and yep
I'd say Nick Land fits some of these bills. His ideas are daring and rub lots of dogmatic thinking the wrong way, on both the left and right, left the academic system proper a decade or so ago, and has great writing.

>> No.7195236

Yeah, probably, especially in america.
Probably some poor fag genius waiting table somewhere

>> No.7195250

>>7195185
yes, me

>> No.7195255

>>7195185
Yes. Absolutely.

>> No.7195364

>>7195185
nick land (affiliated with a non-university ideas house type thing)
zizek (is uni affiliated but at his pleasure)
basically, yes

>> No.7195381

>>7195185
Can we stop the "can I be a great writer if..." Threads?

>> No.7195388

>>7195236
He doesn't wait tables. He makes lattes for businessmen and vapid whores.

That man is me. Give me a few years, OP.

>> No.7195406

>>7195185
>Is it possible for a philosopher to also be a great writer in 2015?
No, because history's over. We're at the end of everything and the world is the worst it's ever been, but somehow, at the same time, nothing interesting is happening in the world.

sarcasm

>> No.7195419

No. Because in order for one to be considered like Nietzsche today, he'd have to be all but his exact opposite, attacking him head one and those that have followed in the process of carving his or her way as he did in his own day.

>> No.7195436

>>7195185
Yes of course. Probably not you if you have to ask the question. Hunter Thompson described genius as being able to hit the target that no one can see. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there OP.

But I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were. Find an average looking women, have an average kid, and have an average family.

S'not so bad.

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>>7195185
lol.
There are too many fucking Nietzsches.
Should have blown himself up with that dynamite.

The last real philosopher in my book was jacques maritain.
Nowadays we're stuck with intellectual chronic masturbators like habermas and lowy.

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7195598

Mere months away from immortality.

Philosophy will rule again, mark my words.

>> No.7195740

I honestly just with therr was a contemporary philosopher who completely rocked the boat and advances the field in unprecedented ways like the big names of philosophy have throughout history. It would really ease my concern that the discipline is dead

>> No.7195746

>>7195740
*wish *there

>> No.7195748

>>7195740
Philosophy died when it was written down

>> No.7195755

>>7195740
Those philosophers, in their time, were not so infamous, they were just contemporary figures who may or may not have been controversial among the academic mainstream.

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>>7195185
>Is it possible for a philosopher to also be a great writer in 2015?

Yeah, REI for example

http://mundusmillennialis.com

>> No.7195796

How angry do you guys get at "psuedo-philosophers" the type to write quotes for tumblr to seem deep? Is there anything to draw away from them? I always love looking at psuedo-anthropologists because it helps look into the the reasons of spontaneous sociology and actually is more helpful to me than cringe-worthy

>> No.7196572

>>7195787
What the fuck am I reading?

>> No.7196588

>>7196572
Something the guy keeps spamming here. I don't recall ever following the link.

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>>7195787

>that grammar
>that content

>> No.7196602

>>7196588
You mean rei?
But what's that site anyway?

>> No.7196618

>>7196597
There's nothing wrong with the grammar...

>> No.7196623

>>7195787
>THE BEGINNING & END OF THE LAND, THE BEGINNING & END OF THE OCEAN: EVERYTHING ENDS & BEGINS AT THE BEACH.
good stuff

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>>7195787
>http://mundusmillennialis.com

>> No.7196637

>>7196618
except for the all caps, early 2000s website style formatting, and generally redundant use of grammatic symbols

yeah I know rei is a meme, that doesn't mean there's nothing wrong with the grammar though...

>> No.7196644

Myself

You can't handle the Nietzsche-Hegelian synthesis

>> No.7196651

>>7195235
>>7195364
no one knows who Nick Land is and he doesn't even write anymore

>> No.7196660

>>7196637

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT GRAMMAR IS.

>> No.7196691

>>7196660
nah bro, I do

>> No.7196740

>>7195185

Tangentially related by way of academic system: Schoppy said that education is basically backwards, in that you learn abstractions and then spend the rest of your life trying to make the real world fit into what you learned (paraphrasing).
My question is, when WOULD you enter into higher education (I assume you'd learn basic arithmetic and the like early on in your life)? He himself was clearly a learned man, so how did that work out?

But to shit up the thread more, to your 3 questions respectively: Yes, yes, and probably, although there seem to be a lot fewer bright minds today than there was even back in the early-mid 20th century. Not sure what happened there, or if we can cultivate people like that again

>> No.7196757

>>7196740
Nietzsche was a philologist but trash-talked philology in Ecce Homo, saying that it had far too much reading, and that being so physically sick that he was unable to read was one of the best things that ever happened to him.

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>>7196757
>A real fox calls sour not only those grapes that he cannot reach but also those that he has reached.

>> No.7198105

>>7195787
“MOST OF MY DAYS CONSIST OF MOSTLY NIGHT” by Rei Koz

I INHALE, THEN EXHALE THE “BENSON & HEDGES” SMOKE, AND I TASTE THE GOLD IN MY MOUTH.

I CAN TASTE THE GOLD.

I AM AT MY LITTLE BROTHER’S SCHOOL, SURROUNDED BY OVERLY LOUD CHILDREN, RUNNING & YELLING; THEY ARE A MOTION BLUR, AS I STAND STILL.

I LOOK AT THEIR FACES, WHICH ARE FIERCE –ALL CHILDREN ARE FIERCE– AND STARE AT THEM, OBSERVING THEIR EXPRESSIONS, AND FEATURES, DREADING THAT A MOTHER, OR TEACHER WILL NOTICE.

THE SCENT OF MOTION IS THAT OF CHOCOLATE.

THE SOUND OF MOTION IS THAT OF MILLIONS OF SUGAR CRYSTALS FALLING.

THE TASTE OF MOTION IS THAT OF CARAMEL CRYSTALIZED IN THE SHAPE OF A “RED” HEART.

THE “ANTICHRISTUS” IS A METAMODERNIST LEADER.

SOME OF MY DECISIONS ARE DETERMINED BY A “CABINET” OF FOUR “VOICES” IN MY MIND, EACH AT A CORNER, AND ONE OF THEM A FEMALE.

THEY STATE THEIR ARGUMENTS, “DISCUSS”, AND REACH A CONSENSUS WHICH IS OFTEN A “NIHILISTIC” ONE, THEN I MAKE A CONCLUSIVE DECISION BASED ON THEIR CONSENSUS.

I AM THE OBJECTIVE CENTER; ONE IS ZERO.

THEY ARE IN MY MIND, AND I CAN FEEL THEM IN MY BRAIN, RAPIDLY & INTERMITTENTLY PULSING.

THEY HAVE BEEN IN MY MIND SINCE I WAS A “TODDLER”, IN DIFFERENT FORMS. THIS IS THEIR FOURTH & MOST CONSISTENT FORM.

I WAKE UP AT LATE AFTERNOON, AND SHOWER WITH OVERLY WARM WATER.

I SMOKE WHILST SHOWERING; THE BATHROOM FILLED WITH STEAM, AND SMOKE.

I REALIZE HOW THE FUTURE SEEPS DOWN INTO THE PAST, AND THE PAST FURTHERS US INTO THE FUTURE.

DAILY ROUTINES EVOKE ALWAYS THE SAME MEMORIES, AND THOUGHT PATTERNS, AND I FORGET WHEN WAS THE FIRST SPACETIME THAT I THOUGH CERTAIN THING WHILST DOING CERTAIN THING; IT IS LIKE HEARING A SONG, OR SOUND PATTERN THAT SOUNDS VAGUELY FAMILIAR, OR VAGUELY REMEMBERING A SCENE, OR DIALOGUE FROM AN UNIDENTIFIED “MOVIE” IN THE PAST, THEN REALIZING THAT OTHER PERSONS VAGUELY REMEMBER IT ALSO, BUT NOONE EVER FINDS THE SOURCE OF THE MEMORY.

THE MORE THAT ONE PONDERS UPON “STRAY MEMORIES”, THE MORE HAUNTING THEY BECOME, BUT THEY ARE RELATIVELY EASY TO DISMISS.


jej

>> No.7198123

>>7195591
>Maritain

reading Education at the Crossroads rn and loving this dude. He just fuckin' gets it.

>> No.7198337

>>7195185

As if the issue is the academic system and not technology, hah.

>> No.7198345

>>7195185
Only if you truely will it to be so.
In other words I believe in you OP

>> No.7199631

>>7198337
elucidate