/lit/ - Literature

652 IQ here. It feels OK. I only read my diary tbh. No other writer is stimulating enough.

>IQ
congrats you're good at puzzles

>>7127045

OP here.

Actually I'm not good at puzzles. I recently made a verified IQ test. I never wanted to make one because I was afraid of the results. But I'm going on a psychiatrists (to solve my anxiety disorders) and he wanted me to make one, not very sure why.

So I made the thing. I really tried to get a nice result, because I generally feel bad whenever I fail at something. I love to read and write, although the pressure of daily writing is sometimes absurdly traumatizing. I have already published one book (not going to be specific about it) and am working on the second. I also have tree more projects for serious literature and one for a children's book. I'm also graduated in Law.

And yet my IQ score was only 128. I really tried to get a nice score, but failed. This reminded me of my schools years, when I was among the 5 worst students of the class. I did not troubled the class or disrespected the teachers, but I simply couldn't pay attention: it was too damn boring. I preferred to draw, read, paint and write during classes. To this day I regret not learning physics, mathematics and chemistry. I will study this subjects alone in the future, although I will need to make a lot of effort, for I learn very slowly.

So you see, I'm not very gifted. I was just wondering how it is to actually possess a significantly high raw intelligence.

>>7127080
>128
What standard deviation did the test use?

>tfw 83 IQ

>inb4 people start shitposting about IQ and what it measures without a clear understanding of how it works

Get over the fact that you scored all low.

>>7127080
>128

u retard, tfw *you* will never program in hypermodal intralinguistic binary

People with an IQ above 155 don't read literature because they have no need to compensate.

>>7127082

I don't know. I was afraid of it before, and after the result I got disappointed and did not asked for much information. Since it was applied by a professional I guess it was a valid test. The doctor said it was actually a great result, but from what I know about IQ testing it is not anything special.

It is actually a good thing: whenever I feel that I'm special or more intelligent than other people I will remember this (and also my schooldays) and remember to put my feet back on the ground. Also, since I'm used to suffer a lot to write and to really try very hard to learn I guess that this score is not going to change anything in my life: I will actually work even harder in my goals and projects.

>>7127105

Psychiatrists think they are masterminds of the psyche and the mind and yours probably didn't even test you and just gave you a score you'd think is low.

The effects are working already since you think "[i]t is actually a good thing" (7127105: 2015)

>>7127098

OP here.

But what about the pleasure?

I read because it is a pleasure for me, and also because I like to learn how to write better.

If I can produce works that present both verbal beauty and characters whose personality is a delight to discover and unravel, then I will be perpetually grateful to have existed.

I want to give others the same mental pleasure that Shakespeare, Tolstoy, Nabokov, Joyce, Burgess, Babel, Chekhov, Keats, Tennyson, Blake, Montaigne, Rimbaud, Tolkien and others have given me.

>>7127096
>u retard, tfw *you* will never program in hypermodal intralinguistic binary

Indeed, never: I don't even like computer very much: to actually be able to program is something that I never dreamed off.

>>7127105
The score of an IQ test doesn't actually tell you much without the standard deviation. The point of the test is to put you on a normalised curve and assigns you a value on your relative performance. Depending on the standard deviation used(15 or 24 are common values) your score is either 'definetely above average' or 'pretty good'.

>>7127105
The fuck are you talking about, mate. 128 is well above average, and a fine base to do whatever you want. Just because you're not rain man doesn't mean you should be all emo about being well above average.

God, this self chastising is so toxic. You're fine, mate.

>>7127031
iq doesn't mean anything except when it does

>>7127117
"rain man" scored 87

IQ is completely meaningless.
Doing well on an IQ test only proves you are good at IQ tests.
Of course there is a crossover of smart people with IQ scores, but let's face it, you only care about a person's IQ score if they later do something that appears to justify it.

>>7127117

Well...thank you.

I did not get desperate because I never showed much talent for mathematics and physics, but always loved literature, history and the plastic arts. I also like biology.

I am going to do the best with what I have. I was just interested in the routine of people whoa re truly gifted, so I decided to search here on /lit/. Although people are always mocking and saying this is a shithole I actually find a lot of posters here quite gifted.

118, ask me about being just slightly above average in everything

>>7127139
looks indeed yummy

You don't need a really high IQ to be a great writer. Artistic ability and creativity arent correlated above a threshold of 120. With your IQ of 128 you could be the next Shakespeare. Also, there is a lot to writing. Its feeling, personal experience and soul. There are things that you have to try, fail, try again and reinvent. If you have an urge to write, then write. And write for yourself, you have to be the judge and in the end you have to please yourself. So theres is no way you can "fail" if you decide to not stop trying and keep your motivation and satisfaction within yourself.

>>7127087
Maybe you can sign up for a kid's book club.

>>7127031
I scored 155 with an SDEV of 15.
I read a novel a week plus the Paris Review, N+1 and the Michigan Quarterly. The last few novels I read were The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test, The Pale King and East of Eden.

It feels good to consistently understand things I read more comprehensively than my peers, and sometimes recognizing patterns in an authors style detracts from my enjoyment of prose. When I write I put a great deal of effort into not repeating any elements too often.

>>7127117
This guy's right dude, plenty of doctors, professors and executives score lower than 128, and that would be on the high end for most other professions. You're not mentally handicapped for any field.

175 IQ. Tested when I was 5. Skipped a few grades. At eight months old I could read, and my first book was a translation of Homer's Iliad. My favorite authors today are James Joyce, Thomas Pynchon, and David Foster Wallace. I still read Homer, but not in translation.

>>7127134
Exactly
I personally know a man who's in the best 1%, yet he's not that... smart? Just very good at maths, but he's a quite boring and trivial guy

>>7127031
>How does it feel like? Your favorite writers are?
Kinda ok
David Foster Wallace

>>7127045

IQ does correlate with a great amount of other indicators of intellectual success, such as academic achievements and career progression.

Calling it the end-all be-all definite measure of intelligence is as wrong as dismissing it offhand.

>>7127031
>vertfied
>160
the first condition more or less rules out anyone here from claiming the second
although id estimate most posters here to be in the 110-130 range
i doubt that there is even one poster with an IQ of 160+ given board traffic

>>7127170

but it doesn't correlate with creativity. and thats a big part of writing.

>MENSA-verified IQ of 169 (from a 16 SD test)
>28 years old
>6'3"
>Dark brown hair and blue eyes
>Fluent in English, French, German, Spanish, Russian, Japanese, ancient Greek and classical Latin
>10" and 6.5" dick length and girth, respectively
>Bachelor's in classics from Cambridge
>Got a job at Goldman-Sachs straight out of university and now, six years later, making $150k plus bonuses (at least $300k all-in)
Feels good, man.

>>7127190>>7127190
No one needs or wants a dick that big anon. But otherwise I wish I was you

>>7127201
you're mom wanted his d*ck

I just had my IQ testsed yesterday and im proud to announce that my IQ is a fucking billion. my favorite books are George RR Martin and The Martian by Andy Reid

>>7127190

I'm actually happy for you :)

I'm that smart but unlike >>7127190 I wasn't born to a rich family so I just study math at a humble state university

>>7127220
Thanks, my good chum.

>>7127158

Dou you like Shakespeare? :)

>>7127190

>MENSA-verified IQ of 170 (from a 16 SD test)
>27 years old
>6'4"
>Dark, luxuriant brown hair and sapphire-blue eyes
>Fluent in English, Mandarin, French, German, Spanish, Russian, Japanese, ancient Greek and classical Latin
>11" and 6.6" dick length and girth, respectively
>Master's in classics from Cambridge
>Got a job at Goldman-Sachs straight out of university and now, five years later, making $160k plus bonuses (at least $310k all-in)
Feels good, man.

>>7127185

True. Though there is a threshold, meaning that IQ is a necessary but not sufficient cause for creativity.

Of much greater impact is personality, namely the aspect of personality that has been dubbed openness to experience by psychologists.

Which, incidentally, can be raised as much as what 10 years worth of life experiences would do, with a single high-dose sessions of psilocybin mushrooms

>>7127225
That's different because it's intentional.

>>7127229
...Van Patten?

>>7127185
>>7127232

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What I have read is that a certain level of IQ is necessary for great achievements, but once you pass a certain limit (IQ of 120) it’s not easy to make correlations. Once this limit is achieved, a person with an IQ of 125-130 might end up creating greater works of art than someone with an extremely rare IQ of 160, and that even though the two people are both making efforts and working hard. The person with the higher IQ might absorb information faster and understand subjects with more facility, and yet his/her creativity might not be as incredible as the one we found in the person with a 125 IQ. The main thing here is:

>A higher than average IQ seems to be necessary for great achievements, but once you pass a certain level the creativity and personal story of a person can be much more important than extra points of IQ; about creativity, there is no consensus about what it is, how it works, how it can be measured and how much it is related to raw intelligence.

IQ is not an absolute test for intelligence, and everybody knows it, yet there is a correlation between great achievers and successful professionals and higher IQ scores. To say IQ is completely irrelevant is to deny a lot of collective knowledge and accumulated data about the subject. But when we say “high IQ” we are not speaking of enormous IQ scores, such as those of 160-170-180 and higher, but simply IQ’s that are superior to scores like 120. In fact, there are lots of people in the world with the capacity to excel in great creative undertakes.

>>7127244

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One of the best phrases I ever read about genius is this one, by Havelock Ellis, on his book A Study of British Genius.:

>“Genius is the happy result of a combination of many circumstances.”

That’s actually perfect. Yes, you need a relatively high IQ, but you also need a proper upbringing, the exposition of the person in the right time of her life to the area of creation that is actually her personal field, the many particular characteristics of personality, like ambition, desire to excel, curiosity, obsession, courage, hard-working capacity, and many other circumstances.

It comes down to this: Genius is so rare not because we have few people with high IQ, but because high IQ is only one of the pieces of the puzzle.


The best book I have ever read on the subject is this one:

>Before the Gates of Excellence: The Determinants of Creative Genius

http://www.amazon.com/Before-Gates-Excellence-Determinants-Creative/dp/0521376998


In short (and Like I exposed before), although a high intelligence coefficient is necessary, it is not necessary that it be absurdly high, but just a little above average. The majority of /sci/ posters, for example, have an IQ that it is in the spectrum of some of the great genius of history. But the similarities end there.

The great geniuses usually had similar personality traits, that motivated them to spend hours and hours and hours, days and days and days working and improving themselves. Great geniuses are a mix of genes (just good genes, a little above the average – being the average today around 100 IQ points) + creation + specific features of personality beget by the life experiences and genetic material of the child.

All great geniuses were ambitious and had broad desire to be recognized and admired for their work; all of them also had obsessive personalities and thought that they creative jobs were the main function of their lives. They might try to fool people, like Einstein tended to do when he spoke that he was only after truth and satiating his curiosity, but not after fame or glory. No doubt he wanted to satiate his curiosity, yet when he was working on general realtivy he was aware that other people were facing the same challenges (like David Hilbert) and he worked like a fanatic, desperately wanting to complete his theory before others did. If he wanted simply to know the truth he could sit down and wait, for people would get there pretty soon. But of course he, like anybody else, wanted to be proud of himself, of his own achievements, and so he worked hard to be the father of general relativity.

>>7127246

3 (end)

Another interesting point: although the child who becomes a genius in the future start his/her career in the specific area of activity in a playful manner (playing with musical instruments, drawing for pleasure, reading for pleasure, etc.), in the future the conscience of their own emerging talent (the child or teen realizes his ability in the field and starts thinking on the possibility of achieve fame with his work) makes the chosen activity becomes not just a pleasurable hobby, but an terribly stressful and overwhelming obligation. The great geniuses often had to work without having the slightest desire to do so (all writers relate the difficulty of having to sit all day, in a routine, and fill the paper with significant literature). Even Einstein, when he worked on the theory of general relativity, eventually was tormented by stomach pain, nausea, anxiety, tachycardia and tremors. The anxiety and fear of failure are constant companions of geniuses, and also the constant dissatisfaction with oneself. The moments of pride and joy are quickly dissolved into new ambitions.

It is also a common feature of geniuses that certain feelings, mainly of respect or value, are wanted but not provided in childhood (sometimes this is even imaginary: the child receives attention and love, but not the enormous amount of attention and praise that it commonly desired). The huge ambition that they have is, in a way, a response to not receiving all the admiration they wish they had received when they were children and teenagers. Genius are generally very proud of themselves.

>>7127117
I agree with this guy. Such an IQ is fine for most activities. OP may have problems with very complex systems. The things that are found on theoretical physics, mathematics and programming. But, tbh, I wouldn't worry about it.

>tfw actually 160 IQ
>tfw have more fun coming up with ways to ruse on forums than hanging out

Post about feminism around neckbeards and complain about chads around feminists. Guaranteed replies

>>7127258
Math isn't hard tho just have near autism like me

>>7127266
Wouldn't a person with such interests also be likely to lie about their IQ?

>>7127244
Great post. I agree with you, but also i would like to add add that the threshold hypothesis was formulated by analyzing achievements manly in the scientific field, where to produce something novel and of value a person really need to have a certain degree of skill that is related to IQ. I guess that in the arts things like sensibility to beauty, personal experiences and other factors are a LOT more relevant than IQ, because even a person who can't structure theirs words very logically can make something that touches people and have a deep impact. In my personal experience as an electrical engineering, surrounded by people who are smarter than i am (and thats kind of rare in the general population) i can say without a doubt that most of them dont have any inclination to an artistic field. They don't have any desire to express their emotions, they don't have any interest in people, feelings and philosophies. So in short, is really difficult to try to measure these human attributes, and i would say that its an alienating endeavor.

sorry for my english. i had to type very fast and i am not used to write in english.

>>7127284

no subject is hard and everything approachable, except being productive and a good person

Really high iq here. Its like having a greater lung capacity but for your brain ou can take deep neural breaths so info just streams in at a higher rate. You know how when your sleep deprived and you cant think well and hour like this must he how dimb people are normally. Well when im sleep deprived im like you are with a great nights sleep . And on speed.

Yeab all subjdcts are easy to do you just got to try hard and believe in yohrslef, and you be a physics professor, just gotta aim for the stars with beloef in good things. Iq doent matter.

>>7127289
No because deep down I'm lonely, scared and depressed and intelligence is my only thing.

>>7127298
Basically this tbqh

The only reason I "get" more math than other people is I spend a shitload of time reading math books and literally thinking about numbers

>>7127087

>>7127031
Come on, back to /sci/. They'll get worried if they don't get their hourly IQ thread.

>>7127031
You notice how the only time IQ has ever been important is when you got all self important about it?

>>7127229

I (personally) have to work with less, but based on what your life turned out to be, there is a good chance many here will accomplish more than being a kleptocrat.

>>7127255

This man is an example of how a poor environment and deficient upbringing can harm even the most naturally gifted of minds.

He is basically fooling himself; he is forcing himself to believe that his ideas are actually scientifically valuable. He works in isolation, apart from the world of actual scientific research, and that, of course, has it's many problems.

I just cant figure out exactly why does he insist in doing that. It's obvious that he has probably perceive all the things that I said, but there must be profound scars and fears in his emotions to make him hide like that and abandon an actual career.

I don't know what it is. Maybe he fears disapproval; maybe he has a feeling that his creative capacities are not as capable as his problem-solving and understanding aptitudes. The fact is that he is wasting a lot of time, energy and biological potential on pseudo-science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-788Upky2Y

>>7127461

You win the thread.

>>7127234
>Van Patten
Dick Van Patten?

>>7127158
>he's proud of scoring 155 yet doesn't know the abbreviation of “standard deviation”

>>7127575

people didn't like Vico but without it there would be no Finnegans Wake.

people didn't like Finnegans Wake but without it quarks wouldn't be called quarks

Alright, movie aside, intellectual here. Dont worry about IQ. Just more nonsense to throw out at cocktails parties while you discuss the latest and greatest political trends. If it isnt jarring and stimulating free thought that drives your conversation but more stagnant cyclical discussion over a number, you're boring.

130ish here. Constantly unimpressed by my fellow man. Use little hacks or notice shortcuts all the time. Favourite book(s): The Suras which cause so much contention.

>>7127643
what do people do that annoys you?

>>7127031
I tested at 120 very young. It ruined my life. Now I am firmly convinced intelligence isn't quantifiable.

tfw 125

like, I'm smart enough that people expect me to do really well in school but not smart enough that I actually do well with very little effort in most subjects

>>7127258

I have around 130 IQ and math is a fucking breeze to me.

>>7127618
I don't think owning a 6 year old keyboard gummed up with cum and jolly ranchers reflects on my intelligence m8.

141 IQ here

It's utterly meaningless to me. I put a lot of weight behind it when I was in highschool but have since realized that going around thinking you are better than everyone else is the surest way to depression.

>>7127725
You got it

>>7127244
Pirates didn't stop global warming.

>>7127045
And problem solving and remembering and finding connections between things.

>>7127725
This guy gets it.

I tested 145 when I was in first-grade and it's a fun little fact to know about yourself but honestly aside from that IQ doesn't really seem worth worrying about.

>>7127031
>7127031
180. My verbal intelligence is fairly low in comparison, though (136) so my literary opinions may not reflect the bulk of my capabilities. My aptitudes would be aural and otherwise what you'd call right-brain intelligence, so big-picture inclined. Also emotional and sensory acuity.
I seldom read much else than philosophical works but I thoroughly enjoyed Flowers for Algernon. Oh yeah and I hate Kant both due to his writing and I must say also due to his philosophy as to not conceal any bias.
For referential purposes I'm also a Swede, 23 years of age.
>commence doubt

>>7127802

Do you like Shakespeare?

Also: you are very fucking rare, you know.

>>7127819
I have not read his works, sorry.

>>7127802
I bet you love Stirner!

>>7127087
Are you black?

>I have a 140+ IQ
Oh cool, what have you done with your life so far?
>W-w-well...

>superior to 160
>OP a retard
>everyone else approve
>everyone else retards

>>7127031

What's the point of having an inflated, artificial coefficient that gauges just a very narrow skill-set (abstract puzzle solving and math).

It doesn't indicate your verbal skills, nor your social skills, psychological strength, physical abilities, actual accomplishments, general happiness, social capital and position, etc.

>>7127895
SO I CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT MYSELF

Lots of mad intlets in this thread.
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>>7127895

Most High IQ people i know are completely uninterested in aesthetics. They are almost oblivion to beauty and have a hard time understanding feelings and motivations that aren't structured through logic only. So now you tell me /lit/, how can IQ matter that much to your writings? I can't understand why i am the only one who doesn't see the correlation between high IQ and beign a great writer.

>>7127924
It is an unfortunate tendency for people with strong logic circuits to lean on those strengths, especially if their families didn't introduce them to aesthetics.

With the right upbringing and inclination, however, being able to make use of a large vocabulary and make interesting connections between things is pretty useful in writing.

>>7127895

Even if this is true, you can't credibly tell me that you regard a person the same way, after you get to know he/she has an IQ of 87.

>>7127876

So OP, with a psychiatric-verified IQ of 128: >>7127080 should considered himself lucky?

>my rhetorical face when realizing that this thread is not for laffs and people actually care about their IQ rating

>>7127937
Yes, i can see that connection. But at least for me there are a lot more to writing. One author that i really admire is Thoreau and i think he was probably a little dumb when it comes to logic. He really shines when it comes to his idealistic view of the world, his sensitivity to beauty and the way he was fierce about the things he believed in. With those qualities he ended up making great poetry.

>>7127959
That's a matter of taste though. I think Thoreau's feeble logical mind shines through in everything he writes and I have to struggle to give him the benefit of the doubt because of it. Not everybody likes the "sensitive type" untempered by some mental muscle.

>>7127924
Writing is logical. Writing is consistency. Writing is formulated. Writing is systematic. You mustn't forget that merely because a highly intelligent person has a greater apptitude for cognitive processing in the form of systems such as logical reasoning or mathmatics, that they are then incapable of beimg superior still in aesthetics and "great" writtings. Someome with a comparatively lower IQ may be able to put forth "good" works. But the most likely case, higher IQ, "better" works.

>>7127248
>Even Einstein, when he worked on the theory of general relativity, eventually was tormented by stomach pain, nausea, anxiety, tachycardia and tremors. The anxiety and fear of failure are constant companions of geniuses, and also the constant dissatisfaction with oneself. The moments of pride and joy are quickly dissolved into new ambitions.
This happens to me and I'm not a genius

fuck

>>7127980
Thats where i don't agree. I don't think that there is a direct correlation between IQ and writing ability. I am not saying that an high IQ couldn't make things easier, but that there a lot of others factors involved and that these factors are more important than your IQ.

>>7127944
I'm talking about him raising the point of having such high intelligence. Seriously, /lit/ doesn't have to pretend they are so absurdly intelligent, it ends up humorous.

>2015
>believing the IQ meme
Do you guys also take Freud seriously?

>>7127575
I've started reading into his theory. I haven't read the details yet but it seems promising imo.

>>7128015

Well, then all the 150's, 145's, 160's and the like in this thread are probably internet-tested or lying?

Don't know if they are lying, but if they are: what's the point? This is an anonymous board, an online board: at least here people can be honest for a change.

>>7128021
>>>>>>>>>>>/publix/

>>7128015
Humorous for whom?

>When everyone laughs at something dull
>The philosopher, too laughs
>Everyone's now laughing
>But the philosopher sees the truth

>>7128021
why i would not?

>>7127094

144 here

IQ still a shit

>>7127258
I have like 3 friends who are good at math and programming and they're all dumb as fuck at anything actually important. They're just autists.

>>7128028
This is either some unforeseen naïveté or downright autism.

>>7128024
jokes aside langan seems like a cool guy & I wish I could have a talk with him one day


sigh

>>7128015

130 here tbh.

Nothing wrong or right with it really. Just american pseudoscience shenanigans.

There isnt even an agreement on what intelligence is, nor I think that'd be possible anyways.

Well, the general consensus today is that an IQ that high actually can't be "verified" (whatever "verified" is supposed to mean in the first place). And IQ should, I'd think, have little to do with artistic sensibility, as it really more gauges logical skills than "culturedness" or whatever would cause someone who have better taste than another (and I do think there must be some amount of intersubjectivity to artistic taste: to me, it's absurd to say that the literary opinion of someone whose favorite book is Game of Thrones is just as valid and relevant as someone whose favorite book is Ulysses). Just look at all the wildly successful and skillful politicans, lawyers, doctors, and even members of the STEM fields and academia, who digest the very same cultural schlock that is supposedly just for "the masses." No doubt these people have very high IQs, but that doesn't mean they understand everything well.

>>7127864
In my opinion, Stirner has done a fine job in extrapolating agency into its end. As for his conclusions; I disagree with them violently. This is hardly Stirner's lone fault but due to a problem permeating all of western philosophy. The Ship of Theseus-problem illustrates it neatly - how representations and actual circumstances don't tell the same story. An even clearer perspective is seen if you question the relationship between map and territory: representation and designated object are here never 1:1 in relation, so you miss out on depth so critical to the application of deduction (obvious in mathematics) and ultimately to philosophy and its product.
I think Stirner is better seen as ironical critique of societal institutions whose foundation is agency rather than as a descriptor of reality. To me, he says, "This is the consequence and the habit instilled in your people".
But yeah I love Stirner.

>>7127031
Reminder that for general success EQ >IQ

>>7128287
Reminder that there isnt such a thing as EQ. Its just general intelligence applied to emotions.

>>7128311
There's no such thing as IQ either

>>7127802
>and otherwise what you'd call right-brain intelligence
wut

>>7128319
exactly. it's just general intelligence applied to pattern recognition

>>7128319

B-but my autism is appeased and amused doing those pattern recognition tests...

Do childhood IQ tests mean anything? I scored somewhere around 140 on a school administered one in elementary, but online tests I've taken since then frustrate me and I end up scoring in the realm of 110.

I'm sorry this is off topic but whats the word or the formal event called when former school graduates or alumni meet-up after a long period of time?

Outside the tests, there's no way to tell a high IQ person from a slightly-above-normal IQ person.

Lots about IQ lately on this board... /sci/ leaking over?

>>7127031
yeah I'm pretty sure anyone who has done a handful of puzzles and found this board got the >140 score on that lame 30 question pattern recog test

>>7129180
class reunion?

>>7129192
i am sure I've heard another word, but thanks for the suggestion.

>>7127190
What is you're role at GS?

I was in an MG program back in elementary school. I think you need to score at least 130 for that. Although I haven't taken any tests as an adult, so I don't know if I would still qualify. College has surely cost me ten points or so, what with all the binge drinking.

Honestly, I don't want to take a test now. I feel the inflated expectations caused by an exceptional result would only cause me misery. A poor result would only bring shame. All roads lead to ruin.

>tfw tested as a child, got 95IQ

Who even gives a shit

>so many high IQs
>not a damn one can answer the literature related section of the OP
is this that autism i have been hearing so much about?

>>7127031
I never got tested.

I have thought of getting tested, but considering how bad I am doing at college, how many problems I am dealing with right now (anxiety, depressions, taking loads of meds for that) and the current situation of my living, I think that the most likely case is that I will receive a very low score and it will make me feel even worse that I feel every damn day.

I have an IQ of 1 trillion
It feels nice being superior to all of you dumb-dumbs. My favorite authors are Dr. Seuss and George R.R. Martin btw.

>>7129259
Same guy as this.

I like Camus, Conrad, Sosetski, and Dostoyetski.

>>7127924
I would agree with this, I find beauty a very different thing for me.
I also feel like I've never had an original thought in my life and as such can not produce greatness.
>170 iq

A better measure of intelligence is your bank statement and account balance

Are the iq tests on the internet legit and accurate?

>>7127853
>180 iq
>hasn't read shakespeare
Liars everywhere

>>7129948
Shakespeare is overated. I don't know why english speakers suck his dick so hard. I mean he's entretaining, but not GOAT at all.

>>7130005
fuck off

33

>>7128155
>Game of Thrones is just as valid and relevant as someone whose favorite book is Ulysses
that's more a factor of tribal affiliation/signalling than intelligence, neither suggests a deep appreciation for literature

I did the enlistment IQ test that the Danish Special Forces use when recruiting and I scored 140. They told me it was very good.

I like reading.

>>7127575
@yt film: This sounds like being born a billionaire and then becoming a bus driver.
I would literally set out to conquer the world with this IQ.
The nice thing is, one day, a person might be born with an exceptional IQ, in an exceptionally rich family, with the drive of someone like Napoleon. It will be glorious.

>>7127080
128 is two points below genius. I was 133 when I was young and got tested for dyslexia when I was barely reading. Now, after a decade of reading, my verbal IQ went up to 150.

148 with perfect memory. Most of the time I read text books and manuals then go do what I read. I became a hardware systems engineer for Microsoft at the age of 17. For leisure I enjoy fantasy and science fiction because they're entirely made up. Sure there's tropes galore but every new story has something different to offer if just an improvisation on a theme.

122 here. I'm breaking down PKD's 9000 page exejesus into a twenty part reexamination to further explain the main themes. He takes a lot of time in his thesis to set the stage for the important points but the points he makes are fucking amazing.

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>>7130791
>128 is two points below genius

Considering he says on the post he has graduated in law, has already published one book, is working on another and has ideas for at last 3 more I guess he is using his brain well.

>>7128287
for general success, how much money your parents have >>>>>> IQ

>>7127734
puzzles yeah

>tfw most brain functions in top 3-1 percentile
>short term memory in the lowest 3 percentile.

Standardised score of 76 for that.

Also

>tfw tested at 8 and given a standardised score of 145
>tfw tested at 17 and given a standardised score of 133

>>7127190
what di you study?

>>7127575
Can someone elaborate on why he receives so much criticism? I've read some really general stuff he wrote and it seems quite promising. I mean the whole pseudo-science is probably his way of trying to attain some kind of objective integrity but due to a lack of some fancy degree. I think if we were to dissect his works, remove all the math/science mumbo jumbo, it's essentially a philosophical search for answers.

why being intelligent is so important if you still have to speak with retards

you dont realize that you are ostracizing yourself voluntarily every day?

>>7127802
How well did you do in school?

I feel as if I have a great comprehension with philosophical works and those concerning the 'right brain' but when it comes to mathematical concepts, not so well.

Could you also elaborate a bit more on your other pursuits/passions?

When I was 14 I scored the mythical 160+ on an IQ test done whilst undergoing a psychiatric evualtion requested by my school in response to my utter lack of work ethic, manipulation of peers and teachers and being a smart-ass in general.

I don't think that IQ tests give a fair representation of one's intellect, I do however believe I'm what others think as pretty darn smart. How has it helped my life? In a way, not really I rationalize everything and have a complete lack of emotions. I understand them, can act them out but never feel them myself. I have no idea if this is true for other people I can only assume and hope not. Has it made me an outcast? No on the contrary, I'm well liked, popular even. I can respond perfectly to social cues and paint a facade that other people will find attractive. My life is a complete construct dreamed up in my mind to be as socially acceptable as I desire to be for the moment. I'm abiding to society's standard right now just because I'm expected to.

I've had relationships but they meant nothing to me on an emotional level, I enjoyed the physical aspect of sex but everything besides that was again a constant barrage of lies and deceit.

As far as academic life goes, I'm currently coasting through Med School.

I'm sustaining myself, for what? I have no clue.

>>7131196

If he was indeed in the right way the scientific community would already be discussing and trying to verify his theory. Today, with internet and the simple access of information, if his work was promising he would already be discussed and used as source for new works.

Instead he is a mere curiosity. And he talks about proving things that are, after all, purely metaphysical.

People tend to speak of Einstein as a different form of scientists, and how unorthodox were his procedures, and yet if you really study his life you will see that he was always in contact with other scientists and the scientific community.

Langan probably doesn’t have real creativity in physics and mathematics and then keeps running away from a major life delusion.

>>7131470

I think you are somewhat egocentric, although you probably do a lot to treat other people nicely and don’t act like a rude person. But deep down you see yourself as superior.

Also, I don’t think you have a lot of creative drive. You probably don’t spend a lot of time writing and, when you read, you don’t think in using what you are reading as material, or in learning technics and styles: you probably read mostly to absorb knowledge and feel pleasure in possessing this knowledge.

Also: you probably don’t have the patience to spend several hours and days and months in a single book-project, or any artistic endeavor. You get bored easily and don’t have a clear goal in your life.

But that’s just what I think. I’m might be completely wrong.

>>7127031
> Your favorite writers are?

I like fantasy & sci fi. You know, the stuff /lit/ considers pleb shit and genre fiction. On the other hand I can't read philosophy mostly because I see through all of the bullshit it really is. At least reading what I read I get some entertainment.

>>7131477
Yes I understand why he receives such distaste from the scientific community.

But do his works really lack creative content in a philosophical sense? Instead of trying to discredit the man on how impractical and scientifically flawed his hypotheses are, it may still be of innovative value in a wider spectrum.

Plenty of philosophers became reclusive and still came up with novel ideas.

>>7131559

Well, I have not read his work, so I really can’t say.

But his way of talking is strange…it sound somewhat charlatanistic, and the lack of interest from other scientists is quite telling.

But for all I know he might really be working in something meaningful.

>>7131505

I'm completely egocentric and feel superior to pretty much everyone. But then again that's quite obviously represented in my previous post.

The rest sounds pretty on-point, but I can devote hours of time to a single cause if it interests me enough, rarely happens though.

>>7131602
>I'm completely egocentric and feel superior to pretty much everyone.

That’s not very good, and I don’t even mean for others, it isn’t good for you.

If you draw a line between yourself and others; If you see yourself as a somewhat different species or a different level of human being you end up creating a prison for yourself: you slowly build a kind of veneer around yourself and, when you realize, you can’t participate in the world anymore because there are no creatures who are worthy of your gifts and aptitudes. That’s a cocoon of loneliness that is going to hurt you, and whose benefits are probably nonexistent.

>“We are all sentenced to solitary confinement inside our own skins, for life.” Tennessee Williams

Although that’s kind of true to all of us, it will be even harder for you if you put yourself on an imaginary spot of uniqueness, if you sit on a small island of light and imagine that all the rest of the world is on the dark, on the abyss. We human beings are all very similar in spite of our small differences, and we call can surprise each other with small things.

I think that a sense of superiority is a prison, but we can choose to build it or not. But that’s just my advice: it might be hard to follow, but I seriously think it would make you feel better.

>>7127031
That brain looks remarkably delicious.

How the fuck have so many of you taken IQ tests is it a thing that happens when you go and get diagnosed with autism or just a thing for US pseudo-intellect retards? Its like everyone on the board but me knows what theirs is.

>>7131849
I don't know mine. Don't want to either.
Once I found out, I might not have the ability to claim I am smarter and better than everyone. And that is pretty much all I live for.

>>7131849
If it makes you feel better I don't know it either. I asked my therapist if she could make the test and she refused to. I'm glad she did because knowing would probably put a number to what I think I'm capable of.

>>7131880
The idea that intelligence can be quantified, especially with regards to Literature, is terrifying tbh. People on this board need some negative capability.

>>7131880
I was tested for IQ once, in elementary school. Considering my good grades, I still wonder whether they thought I was legitimately retarded and docile enough to follow the teachers instructions without a problem, or really smart, but an outsider.

>>7127605
That was a reference to American Psycho, fam.

>>7131651

The problem is that I really don't feel anything on an emotional basis. When my father died I was supposed to cry, I did but it wasn't genuine. I'm not making this up, I'm not changing my perception of the past to make me feel better. I recognise feelings and needs of others but my display of empathy and my listening, validation, understanding, or support is all fake. I really have no empathy but I'm aware of that fact, I just act in the manner society wants me to, to function in this world.

There have been times that I dropped the mask and hurt people in unimaginable ways and I felt nothing. I understand this I'm probably some horrible being but I couldn't care less about it.

I have sought help quite a few times but playing with psychiatrists is way more fun then telling them the truth. They always assume they are in control, listening to cues and they instantly think they know what's wrong. Although all that playing around doesn't make me happy. Just the scenario of their bewildered confusion is an interesting thought.

I've been on my little island for quite some time now, I'll never leave it, only drift further. There's no hope for improvement since I don't long for it, but I wouldn't care if it did.

I probably sound like some crazy sociopath now, It's just that I never met anyone like me, I wonder how I would perceive my mirror image. Nobody knows the world behind the facade that I constructed.

And I don't care.

>>7127031
160 + I dont think so buddy.

>>7132147

Well, if this is really the case the fault is not yours: it's like anxiety disroders or depression - sometimes it's not a behavioral modeling that conducted you toward it, but simply the electrochemistry of your brain.

If you really don't have empathy and if your IQ and raw intelligence are really quite advanced, then you are one of the rare human beings who fit the classical ideal of sociopath: extremely gifted, yet devoid of feelings. That's a rare thing. Most people with antisocial personality are not as interesting; they merely do what they want and when they want and don't give a damn about the consequences, and the result are alcoholics, drug-addict's and small criminals.

If you really are the way you described yourself then you have done well in learning how to treat people, in respecting the fact that most of us have emotions and empathy. Although empathy is necessary for some forms of art, like literature (you simply cant put yourself on others place with complete identification if you cant feel what the other person would feel in a given situation), it is also a thing that hurts a lot: you see people and animals suffering all day, in several different situations, and the pain and pity that flow inside you are almost overwhelming.

That said, I guess that, if you respect other people and don't do harm only for the sake of doing it, there is a lot you can accomplish on this world. You probably will have much more time, since you don't need to spend a lot of time, like other people, in social relationships. And, with a superior intelligence, if you really put effort into any given activity you will certainly obtain a lot of fruits.

I would suggest you really looked for the area that you enjoy the most and dedicate all of your being toward it. If you don't have any need of being loved and loving, prostitutes might be a good way of satiating physical needs.

I would like to see you following the way of physics, but I don't know you and cant say if that's really for you. But don't worry about being different: we don't need to live all in the same way.

I wonder how life is like from your perspective. As for me, I have always been completely drenched with empathetic juice, to the point I don't even kill a fly if I cant avoid it.

>>7132220
Sociopathy has no connotations of being gifted.

You watch too many crime dramas.

>>7132225

Yes, I know. That's why I said he is the "classic" sociopath, the one that the media usually portrays on films, books, etc.

There are lots of people with antisocial disorder, but they tend to be people who live with no care or preoccupation and, since they are mostly stupid, they just end up fucking themselves up with drugs, alcohol, crime, gambling and things like that.

How does iq work practically... Is it a logarithmic scale? Someone with an IQ of 140 is surely more than twice as smart as someone with an IQ of 70

>tfw took a test when i was like 6 but don't know the scale so don't know how superior I am.

Also, no matter how well I understand that it doesn't matter, the fact that I will just never be as smart as some people, and will never be able to do the things that those people do, still bothers me. Anyone else know tfw never smart enough?

>>7132220

You make me sound a bit like a Sherlock. I can assure you, I have a much better face then that weasel Cumberband.

The thing is, I really don't respect people. The reason I act in the way I do, (being social that is) is as for now I have no idea what to do with my life. But if I do find one I probably will not benefit from having being a recluse. But way more from being a loved and respected member of society with a degree and other such middle class things.

I once had a moment where I thought I had found a purpose and I instantly left everything behind, I did write a letter to my mom. Just in case I had to return one day. Having a parent to fall back on was easier then vanishing in thin air if I'd ever wanted to return (which I did). During that time I genuinely tried to feel emotions, even the slightest whim of empathy would have probably changed me. But as you can guess. I didn't.

I'll probably disappoint you in saying that I don't care for physics, but by now you should know that I don't care about me disappointing even you whom I'm telling all this. Why am I telling all this? I wonder if I'm not alone. Maybe someone like me is out there, I would want to meet me.

Prostitutes are dirty and expensive. Pretending to be a perfect boyfriend is easier and more convenient. They should be lucky considering what kind of person I can dream up and act to them to have even met me. They will only experience their pain if things go sour. And when that happens, I don't care. Usually lasts 6 months.

What my life is like? I evaluate every single act I do on how it might possible be perceived. If I didn't and just acted on impulse. I would probably be beat up or stabbed. I'm also extremely rational.

To all here who claim to have a high IQ: if you're so smart, why aren't you rich?

>>7132365
I have rich parents but still.

>>7130791
"140" is genius. But then if you've ever studied intelligence in psychology this whole thing will look very different to you than someone who hasn't...

>>7130917
Depends what you're doing, what you're measuring, where you live, how nurturing you parents were and many other things. Money can do a lot of things for you but if you're retarded you're never going to write a treatise on philosophy no matter how many millions daddy has.

>160 IQ
>on 4chan instead of slammin dozens of chicks every night

I'm not 160 but I am around the 140 mark.

I learn things pretty fast but I'm still leading a train wreck of a life.

>>7127170
False myth, IQ lacks predictiveness and doesn't measure intelligence at all, because we don't have a real idea of what intelligence is.

Read Goleman's Emotional Intelligence.

>>7133542
but chicks don't like intelligent guys bro

i thought the main point of iq tests were to prove that you weren't mentally disabled

if you'll were a bunch of a geniuses you would be having threesomes with babes, not reading a bunch of women with beards' thoughts on life

>>7127229
kek

The psychologist I went to wasn't able to give me a final IQ score because all my abilities were extremely inconsistent. y'all be normalfags

>>7133966
Your probably sub 90 and he didn't want to hurt your feelings.

>implying IQ isn't a spook

>>7134971
While holding high IQ as valuable is a spook, IQ in and of itself is not.

As while the IQ rating system is flawed, it does provide a rough guide to intelligence.
Thus even if you don't believe in it, if you have a low IQ, that will still affect you.

>>7127161
Kek

threads about IQ are almost as bad as threads about tipping or abortion

>>7135018
> 3934038 IQ but I'm a useless NEET because I'm lazy

This fucking board is pathetic.

>>7127031
185 Yale Law grad here. It feels like hanging out in a cloud where everything is pink and rosy. And like shitting the bed.
Favorite author: Sasha Grey.

>>7127161
>>7127190
Oh yeah!? Well I'm an 8-year-old with an IQ of 300 who has a doctorate from Yale and a 20-inch dick. I read 3 books a day and speak 10 languages fluently.

>>7135044
if it makes you feel any better, most of the cancer is just bait.

Yes; horrible. Thomas Wolfe right now.
>188

>>7127190
>300k
Lol, how's it feel to be a poorfag?

>>7135117
Yeah? Well, I'm a newborn with an IQ of 9001 and a 20-foot dick. I've only read 1500 books, and I only speak thirty languages fluently... but then, I've only been alive for about two weeks.

>>7135117

>tfw I actually managed to read three books in a day once

It was only about 800 pages, and I had a bit of amphetamine with my morning coffee tho

>>7135161
Doing God's work, son.

>>7131477
>If he was indeed in the right way the scientific community would already be discussing and trying to verify his theory.

>>7135137
>Thomas Wolfe right now.
>188

IQ verified.

>>7127266
hmm, I like shitposting too does that make me a genius?

these threads are always full of humble braggers

>I have a 1000 IQ but it means nothing

>>7135196

He literary looks like a stick head figure.

>>7135196
O lost, and by the wind grieved, ghost come back again...

>>7127190

Assuming you're not lying, don't you think you've completely wasted your potential? You could be living the dream and you're wasting your life in invest banking.

I suppose you've still got time to fix up your mess.

>>7135216

Come at me bro.