/lit/ - Literature

Interesting. I just checked this out of my school's library. I just wanted to get an idea of the prose and didn't plan on actually reading it through.

I guess I will now. Thanks for this.

>>7080865
Would like to participate, but the schedule is a bit confusing. Is that what should be read weekly? daily? Accompanying dates would be very helpful.

>>7080865
We could also do the schedule based upon those square dividers which appear every 10-15 or so pages. Slower pace but that may better since many just started school.

>>7080889
I was planning on using those as daily pages

>>7080901
Does it start today, nigger? You barely gave us any info.

>>7080919
hey faggot welcome to lit go back to pol

>>7080931
But I'm black and nigger is just a funny word. Welcome to 4chan, by the way.

>>7080919
>I figured since it is the date we decided on and there is no thread I would make one

>>7080919
>>7080931
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>>7080941
Guys come on. I actually want this shit to happen. If I take the trouble to create a calendar will at least one or two other people be willing to participate?

Would like to read it, but the 760 pages is a putting me off.

>>7080944
I will anon, but I don't think there is much hope in waiting for crowds of people cheering.

>>7080944
I for sure will. If you want to wait for more people then that's up to you.

>>7080865

>A book so shit you need a support group to read it

kek

>>7080966
lol

There is something eerily familiar about this thread and the one about that other book in the so called Meme Trilogy, the sunmer reading for "Jest". I swear I have seen this thread play out the exact same way, with the first five replies being exaclty the same as in the first "Jest" thread.

Which means, that someone is duplicating the thread, samefagging it all to hell. This is creepy. Why would he do such a thing? Keep up a group reading that no one participates in, and make daily threads in which he post for himself? It's a good initiative, but someone is insane here, and it's not me.

>>7080944
i will

>>7080984
it's the same people reading

>>7080984
People participated in the IJ threads though, I'm guessing. I mean the threads lasted a while and the number of posters reveals it wasn't a samefag.

>>7081005
There were plenty of people in the IJ threads up until the end because I'm assuming they gave up/had other obligations.

>>7080944
please make a calendar!!!

Hey man, I'm up for a GR re-read, and I'd love some actual as we go along discussion.

Any chance we can get a web site or something for this like Infinite Summer that facilitates actual discussion without assholes shitting up the thread like what happens in every GR thread?

I kind of feel like doing this but I was planning on starting it like November/December...

hmm....

>>7080865
I didn't do the IJ cause I had just read it, but I'll happily join this one. Can someone spend some time formalizing the calendar?

>>7081217

I dig that!

other than V. are there any prereqs/background reading?

>>7081384
I wouldn't call V a prereq just because there's a reoccurring character. GR is very much it's own story.

I made a rough schedule going by the sections in OP's post.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N6wFKlpA3EHbS_tgH0l_geqYt1RdBxStPRcDzcPnWL8/edit#gid=0

Get the weisenberger read along too

here's summary, in plain English, of what happens in each section
http://www.ottosell.de/pynchon/rainbow.htm

>>7081384
While V. isn't exactly necessary beyond a few characters that also show up in GR, i would still recommend it especially if you're new to Pynchon as it helps get an idea of his prose and his general themes such as paranoia.

But I don't own a copy of Gravity's Rainbow.

I would like to do this, but with uni I don't think I can keep up. Christmas might be a good time for this. Kinda like how IJ was during the summer.

>>7080944
I would but i don't have the book, just started Infinite Jest too, might as well tackle 2 memes at once

When is this happening? So I can get a physical copy before that.

What edition are we talking about too?

>>7082188
come on, mang. a man needs some leisure reading too, even if it's on top of a course load.

I'm at about page 110. it helps my mood, puts me in a kind of state before I go to classes.

>>7080953
>waiting for crowds of pepes cheering.
heh

>>7081217
Me too... would give first-timers ample time to read V. too?

how about we start October 1st? and then follow https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1N6wFKlpA3EHbS_tgH0l_geqYt1RdBxStPRcDzcPnWL8/edit#gid=0

>he hasn't already read Gravity's Rainbow

leave it a bit i need to read V

>>7083446
This guy needs to read V. Can we leave it?

>>7083450
thanks for the support

>>7083450
Agreed. My vote goes toward letting the guy read V.

>>7083473
Why don't we all read V first?

>>7083450
>>7083446
How could we even start? It wouldnt be fair and we couldnt even have a full discussion since there are recurring characters.

>>7083480
Or reread. I dreamt I started rereading it last night, so might as well. Shit is so cash. Reading V. is like coming inside your hot aunt over and over until you both fall asleep.

>>7083487
Pynchon please

is GR ebook friendly?

>>7083551
Sort of. Just go to the library tbh.

>>7083551
Sure, nothing special, and I don't recall any drawings in it. Ability to look up words always a plus.

Back in July when i read GR I rationed out 50 pages a day and even that was small, I finished 4 or more days before I thought I would. Reading 12 pages at a time sounds completely retarded.

>>7083551
yes, >>7083558 is just a retard

>>7080949
If you go by ops shitty schedule it'll take you two months. If you do 50 pages a night It'll take 2 weeks.

>>7082153
Go to a fucking library.

I'll pass. Just finished Crying of Lot 49 as a warm-up/prelude

> 2-dimensional characters
> no character development
> cringe-worthy, dated 60s references ("LSD pills," "marijuana cigarettes")
> distracting "comedy" names to all the characters

Seriously, how does this even compare to DFW?

>>7084433
>implying a novel needs character arcs, especially a novel that is literally about the main character descending in to an inescapable obsession
>implying the names don't serve a purpose in the story
and it was written in the 60s, what the fuck do you expect??

>>7080944
>>7080865
Finally i thought everybody forgot about this

>>7080865
Anybody cares to write down the last few words of each of the daily parts?
So that people with the eBook can read too.

>>7084849
you can use the wiki linked in OP as a reference. it's got an Annotations by Page section, which is useful for understanding patrician references you don't understand, as well as maintaining awareness of your progress.

>>7084433
CoL49 is a puzzle, not a book

>>7085169
no its not, you are a retard if you believe that awful 'analysis' of TCOL49 posted on here. all of pynchon's books are full of little rabbitholes like the torquato tasso thing, that doesn't make TCOL49 a puzzle book.

So what date are we starting

http://www.amazon.com/Gravitys-Rainbow-Penguin-Classics-Deluxe/dp/0143039946/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1441672804&sr=8-1

Is this the copy with misprints? and if I get the Kindle edition, does that have the misprints?

>>7084433

>>no character development

your misogyny has so totally swallowed your consciousness that even when a woman is the protagonist, even when hers is the lens through which you view the world, you still disqualify her completely.

>>7080865
I'm already on part 3. Great book. There's a lot of references you'll have to look up, though.

>>7086017
it's pynchon who's the misogynist. he can't write a fully developed woman, all he can write is some cardboard cutout who's there to get fucked by movie stars just because it's quirky and funneh XD

>>7086039
Haven't read the book, but you sound like a total tard.

>>7086039
huh? Oedipa is a pretty complicated character, just because the author isn't interested in going inside her brain (and Pynchon generally isn't for any of his characters) doesn't mean she's not well thought out and consistent.

>>7086017
>dude doesnt even mention the main character is a woman

calm your autism

>>7086077
what? no. oedipa is an incredibly complex and dynamic character given the 150-odd pages we get to know her by. no say that lot 49 has no character development is either a good troll, or a bad reader.

>>7086092
to* say

>>7086065
and anyway, he does get inside her head in chapter 6.

Ill reread for this

alright guys. i want in on this shit. i need to know, what date are we starting on. this is important because i have other books to read.

So we all agree we should do V. first?

Just finished my reread in May. But god damn if I don't love this book. I'm in. When do we start?

Is this actually happening and when?

>>7086209
That's what I'm voting for.
If we read V I'll definitely do it.

This should be a ongoing trend. /lit/ actually reads a book and discusses it.
Would be fun to have one going at all times.

I like this and really want to give it a go. I just wish I wasn't in the middle of reading Moby-Dick. If we start in October, though, I might be able to catch it in time. I wouldn't mind just reading a few extra pages to catch up, either.

>>7086341
I'm surprised we haven't made a stick for this. How hard is it to set up a poll and make a thread?

>>7080865
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>>7080944
>tfw haven't read V. and enjoying the hell out of GR
>tfw I'm on page 130 and ready when you guys are

>>7085981
Yes that one is filled with errors. Go for the penguin one with the V-2 blueprints on the cover or the Vintage one.

Im so down.

I think we should read V first as well

>>7086624
Can't blame you, I read GR first too, but with what I know now I kind of wish I had started with V.

It's no coincidence the books' central figures are

V and V2

I'll read V first, then.>>7086624

When does this start?

>>7088182
never

HELLO EVERYONE HERE IS A POLL TO SEE WHETHER YOU WOULD RATHER START WITH V OR GO STRAIGHT TO GRAVITY'S RAINBOW.

http://strawpoll.me/5437655

V. is a shitty book with no patrician points. If you want to be a dumb pleb, read it on your own

>>7086061
>retard feels the need to shitpost how much of a retard he is
how /lit/ of you

>>7089398
democracy.

my ballot has been cast.

if you dont vote for V. fucking kill yourself

>>7089398
ALSO PLEASE VOTE ON THIS ONE TOO. I FIGURE THE 12TH IS AMPLE TIME TO GET THE BOOK/EBOOK.

http://strawpoll.me/5437796

>>7089398
>>7089451
I've read both already but I voted for GR because I read it before V. and I voted for 10/1 because I'd probably join /lit/ and read along again if you did it then

We are going to be reading Gravity's Rainbow starting on 10/1. If you absolutely have to read V. you can do so within the period from now until the start of GR. 20-23 pages a day will get you done before then.

If anyone would be kind enough to put together a schedule with dates that would be greatly appreciated.

>>7089666
YEAH BABY YEAH

>>7089417
V. is like speedball pynchon.

>>7089666
is this too slow? part 2 coming up next.

>>7089666
>>7089776
part 2

>>7089776
I think 2 months for GR is fine. It's fairly dense and provides a contingency for those who fall behind.

>>7089776
This is great! I think a slow pace will suit us well considering most people are busy with school/work. Thank you so much for putting this together!

>>7080944
yo, i'm in for this, but i'm 450 pages ahead of you guys. I'll participate in discussion and try not to spoil shit, tho. Plus i have to read like a dozen other books for class this semester so i won't always keep up anyway.

>>7080984
I'm in on this and was in on IJ. It's not all one guy bro. There's too many distinctly different kinds of assholery at work in the ensuing discussion lel.

Just bought a copy of V.
I guess I'll see you anons on October 1st.

>>7089776
the only problem with this is that page numbers are different between editions, so we should break it up by episodes.

>>7089776
I'm cool with this. Start a new thread once all this discussion is over.

How did the IJ reading went trollwise and overall? I miss'd it.

>>7090895
for the most part discussion was very contained and active. IJ being such a "meme book", whatever the fuck that is, there was a good bit of baiting in the thread but people ignored them for the most part and it all but disappeared two weeks in

V. is such a great book.

>>7080944
Man, I would love to do this. I just got to page 100 of GR and am loving it and definitely need to re-read it but I've got to read up on philosophy for an Oxford interview.

If you had this going over summer, like the DFW one, I could see it catching on.

>>7090895
Discussion was active for the first few weeks, but gradually died down until the very last day when everyone was discussing the ending.

Come on guys, why are you all taking so long, just for a date. Dying to give GR a second reading.

>>7092346
It's set to start Oct 1st.

I have that black and white, Penguin edition of GR. Is it REALLY worth buying the other edition or is it only a big deal if you are aware of the differences.

I'll get another copy if need be.

>>7080944
I've read it once already but yes, I'll re-read along with you. I might skip around though

>>7093215
you seem to have autism so sure

>>7093350
Why do I seem to have autism?

>>7093427
It's a big joke around here to exaggerate the errors. There is one sentence cut off.

Here is the error.

"Your task, in these dreams, is often to pens"

"Your task, in these dreams, is often to cross—under the trees, through the shadows—before something happens"

big deal. I mean yeah you fucked up buying the ugly edition though.

>>7093454
No, it has been confirmed by my uncle who works at Penguin that the edition has "dozens" of errors and misspellings.

>>7093466
well MY uncle who works at Penguin said it's fine

>>7080944
I'd be down for this. I read Infinite Jest only a few months before the IJ read along but I really enjoyed reading the discussion in the thread, especially once I realised everyone was in the same boat in terms of progress. Like a few anon's have said though, a calendar would be appreciated. I would make it if I knew what you were thinking in terms of dates.

>>7093454
Ahh, that's not really that big of a deal to me then. Plus, I think the cover looks pretty cool. Like a negative Pollock painting or an x-ray of something

>>7093466
the original text has dozens of errors
pynchon writes like that. he was either sloppy or thought it made the thing more organic, i guess.

>>7093470
I've heard about him, precisely because my uncle also added that this person (your uncle) was known around their offices as "a numbnut" and "a blackguard".

Could somebody point me in the direction of a good V torrent. I've already bought a physical copy of the book so Im not steal from the author

>>7080944
do it faggot

>>7095650
Read the hard copy then?

>>7095859
I want the Ebook too so I can read it on my phone when Im at work and out and about

>>7090917
were the IJ threads archived? sorry if this has an obvious answer, haven't tried using an archive on 4chan since the original one went down.

>>7096177
Warosu.org archives every lit thread

>>7096177
ya they died off towards the end tho. I think there were only like 10 active people actually sticking to the schedule though and toward the end everybody just rushed ahead. When I got to page 800 or something I just went ahead and finished like 2 weeks early.

I think there will be more people participating in this one tho

>>7080865
This is some fucking reddit-tier shit right here.

>>7080944
You're a faggot and my life is dedicated to ruining this experience for you.

requesting a v ebook torrent please

>>7097664
check mobilism.org