/lit/ - Literature

All girls have short hair

>>7077682

neo-hunter-gatherer moon/satellite colonies of bioengineered valhallas maintained from adulthood to death by bioengineers, engineers, naturalists, visual designers, and medical/longevity experts with expert AI systems as safety fallbacks; culture is defined by intersolar aesthetic competition, the honing of craft, psychedelic drug cultivation and design, and interspace VR and commerce automated maintained by a newly formed cybercrystal barely diffusing a corner of the sun as it slowly secretes a dyson sphere. Totally immersive neuro-diving is in the breakout stage of human safety as the machine can finally explain the nature of extra dimensional beings to humans as they see them.

tl;dr Turok ala Matrix ala Minecraft ala Terrence Mckenna

>>7077719
id imagine they have penises too

>>7077682
there are no OPs

>>7077682
an authoritarian government ran by a classically trained poet with a team of scientists and economists as his consults.

A world without people on it

There are no women, only /cuteboys/.

We live according to the honorable code of the Samurai and babies come out of the boipussy.

>>7077682
A new Papal States.

>>7077753
In other words, the same thing as the post above yours, just with Catholicism instead of Bushido.

a world with quints

>>7077777
[s4s] was a mistake.

>>7077777
checked

>>7077781
actually lit is my homeboard I just wanted to try it for once

>>7077682
There are maybe a million people left in the world and automation has reached its absolute peak. All non-creative functions are performed by machines and the increased level of productivity relative to the demand of such a small population means that scarcity no longer exists.

The world continues on in this manner in beautiful, perfect stagnation until the sun burns out.

>>7077682
Humanity would exist in scattered settlements of a few hundred thousand each. Each settlement would produce its own food on the surrounding land and only necessary raw materials would be shipped long distances. High speed communication and transit would exist, but only as public goods, not consumer items. Light industry would be maintained in specialized industrial settlements much larger than the rest that are prevented from holding political sway over the rest of the settlements by disallowing the industrial settlements from maintaining a military within their are of influence. There would be no spiritual beliefs or national boundaries, and people would mostly travel and trade with the adjacent settlements, which would still be a substantial distance away. Marriages would be arranged between families and only males would be university educated, but the standards of secondary education even for women would be quite high. The vast tracts of wilderness between settlements would allow people to wander and be with nature, but also be productive and social when in their settlement. If one chose to live alone outside of a settlement or move to another settlement, it could be permitted, but breakaway colonies would be put down with force. There would be no religion, but settlements would be largely ethnically homogeneous, although intermarriage is permitted. All individuals are required to be athletes, and settlements would compete in both academic and athletic pursuits with great vigor.

A place where I'm finally happy

>>7077747
But, those are just turds, anon.

>>7077682
Traditionalist European culture. Neo-pagan religion and Traditional family structures. Men focus on learning and high culture, women on nurturing and care taking. racially and culturally homogeneous, which makes for a very harmonious and nearly crime free society. Criminals and those who disagree with the founding principles of the society can choose to either leave or commit assisted suicide (which is not much of a big deal here, in fact its the ultimate choice of most of the elderly, the mentally ill and the physically defective). Aristocratic government in the ancient sense, everyone does what they are best at.

>>7077726
No, they still look pretty and have nice boobies and puffy pussies.

They just got the short hair on point!

gay sex everywhere
everyone believes in marxism
free food but only if you aren't fat

>>7077818
Different races isn't the cause of crime, chowder-head.

>those who disagree with the founding principles
IE your majesty, the omniscient potentate.
For you utopia was a time long ago. So sad for you. Maybe you should consider assisted suicide

>>7077867
when are you leaving

>>7077832
Hubba hubba.
We have a name for her?

I have a sort of not-quite-utopia story brewing in my head, and quite a lot of the women would be short haired babes

>>7077867
>Different races isn't the cause of crime, chowder-head.

lol
>being this cuck
seriously bro just look at the statistics. I know the truth hurts, but just be a man and deal with it.

>>7077682
most men no longer living through satisfying women

>>7077818
>Men focus on learning and high culture,
Yeah, the prolos are totally gonna do that. Who's going to make your swords and guns with buzzsaw battleaxes and your cars with the airbrushed runes and brush the radium dials on your transgenderacy detectors. The people who going to clean your stables aren't gonna feel even the slightest ressentiment that they've read just as much Moldbug as you as you and you get to drink mead all day and teach philosophy to nubile young puers.

People want to be rewarded for their effort, and if your education is all effortless, it's going to be, what, big letter Hermann-Hoppe quotes for the erudite on the go?

>>7077682
New Australia tbh

>>7077895
There was a time when men where not consumed with hatred and envy towards their superiors, but instead accepted there was a natural order to things. The idea of the sacred order sprung from the first god kings of sumer and defined the civlized world for millenia Everyone was happy with it, a happiness not comparable to anything the modern man can experience. It was only when liberal agitators decieved the masses, convincing them they were really unhappy and oppressed that everything went to shit.

>>7077946
>Everyone* was happy with it


*[That mattered]

I do stand with you against liberal-capitalism, but you of course support the return of gold in the god-kings treasury. We just can't have that.

>>7077946
>There was a time when men where not consumed with hatred and envy towards their superiors
There really really really wasn't, except in maybe like the Satya Yuga on the Akashic Plane. The history (hence tradition) of all hitherto existing societies has been the history of class struggle.
I know the Jews invented time travel and stuff, but do you really think they'd send Bill Clinton of all people to rouse up a Secessio plebis?

And how much it went to shit, we got the great stuff like capitalism and communism out of them. One brought us pornhub and stuff and the other raise living standards exponentially. The limits are really defined by how discontent you want to feel. It's not noble to feel discontented, when you're got to be Reality Facing instead.

>>7077878
Apparently she posts on Reddit, but I dont know her accoubt name. I just see her posted every time cute girls with short hair are brought up!

>>7077797
>>>/polis/

>>7077747
but then /cuteboys/ would just be the new girls you idiot

Ancient Greece.

>>7077818

Hey is that you T Buhls? or just someone posting your picture?

>>7077818
traditionalist pagan culture was pretty gay tbh.

>>7078019

* didn't finish my post, the guy in this pic getting punched is the same guy who is holding up the racist sign in the other picture.

>>7077832
girls cut their hair short out of spite upon finding out they were born with leathery roasties.

>>7077818
>Traditionalist European culture.
Okay
>Neo-pagan religion
Trash

>>7078026
>the racist sign in the other picture.

so you are saying its not okay to be white? who's the racist here. You shills are quick to show your true nature.

>>7078043

If it is you, just so you know, you are talking to someone who is in the picture I posted.

If you want to go off and do your own autonomous zone where people live that way and can leave if they want to, I honestly see nothing wrong with that. It's really not that much different than what an amish society is like, if that is how you want to live that is fine honestly. It's when people imply that they would want to impose their vision of society onto others that bothers me.

>>7077722
Sold.

Resta yall not even tryin.

Alexander the great didn't die young and his hybrid Greek/Persian empire still stands today. Monotheism never really catches on.

Walden II (the Skinner one).

It sounds so nice: I'd get to do science, write, read, and have sex with little girls.

>>7077777
Nice

>>7077719

>>7077818
>comic sans
Fuck that guy

>>7077719
My NIGGER

>>7077682
My vision of the future:
Year 2150
Humanity has reached the end of history. It's been 50 years since an increasingly connected global network, emigration, and trade has made cultural identity a thing of the past. The whole world is united under one benevolent and cooperative democracy, however has long since abandoned outdated ideas such as vested executive power in an individual leader. Further separation of powers into group executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government with highly qualified elected representatives assigned specific concerns such as environment, economy, health etc. Mass multiculturalism and race mixing was rampant during the early 21st century has now fostered a world of now races, all are mixed with lightly tanned skin, sandy blonde hair and vibrant green eyes. Everyone is attractive and in perfect health with slender figures. The world is united by a functioning green economy, with perfectly sustainable practices, poverty long since alleviated, and full employment with purely lucrative and fulfilling careers. Unskilled labour is a thing of the past, with all the worlds population highly educated and cultivated for certain specialities they dedicate their lives to. Engineers have by this time invented machines to carry out any mundane or undesirable jobs. The worlds population has significantly decreased and live in smaller areas, allowing flora and fauna outside populated areas to flourish once again. Every nation is first world, and cities are tall aesthetically perfect high rises, elevated above high density vegetation on the ground. Houses are no longer, and have since been succeeded by all individuals living in minimalist and technologically advanced apartments in which everything is voice and thought controlled. Sex is seen as primitive and no longer desirable for pleasure, solely for necessary reproductive means. People are virtuous, intellectual and altruistic, but also very productivity focus. All organised religions have been abolished, and instead all people commit to a sense of cosmic significance, and see themselves and the Earths minuscule and obscure existence as in its own way a miracle of the universe. The Earth is considered sacred beyond measure as our original home. We have since colonised Mars and are committed to a common and unifying vision, the exploration and further colonisation of the solar system and beyond. Almost all scientific questions have been answered and are understood by the masses, all diseases easily cured. All life known ever known, considered deeply important, and all coexists harmoniously under one flag, that of Gaia.

>>7078402
No races**

>>7077682
Anime image boards don't exist and anyone who has ever read or posted on an anime image board dies horribly over 5 years of extensive acute unrelievable pain.

>>7078402
fag

A world ruled by cute girls doing cute things

>>7077777
Chekd

>>7078402

>>7078419
>>>/a/

Though I wouldn't mind a world with me and a shitload of girls

>>7078402
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>>7078402
im just putting all that apply

>>7078402
2 more

>>7077777

>>7078402

>>7078431
>>7078429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29M_VElHoFI

>>7078402
fedora tier

>>7077777
impressive digits friendo

An endless expanse to explore, worlds to conquer and a humanity pure and unified in 1 goal

everyone is like me

>>7078402
good future, but too good to be true

>>7078454
everyone is me > everyone is like me

An infinite Earth--frontiers forever in every direction--where death is a painful inconvenience to be avoided but not The End.

>>7078451
Pic not related, of course.

>>7078481

That hits deep.

>>7077879
>reactionaries in charge of interpreting statistics
o i am laffing

possibility of an island

>>7077879
It's a much more complex situation than you present it. You are probably looking at skewed stats through the sight of confirmation bias. The truth of the situation is that there isn't a moral dichotomy of "yes/no, good/evil" to abide by in the situation of post-colonial criminality and wealth inequality.

>>7078402
queer

>>7077879
crime statistics are based on incarceration rates, not some mythical stats from some magic crime detection machine. if such a machine existed we wouldn't need police. police aren't impartial or necessarily good at their jobs

>>7077777
Impressive.

>>7077682
Ukrainian pussy for life. A job where i get paid to be an intellectual. Lifetime supply of good literature. Free travel to all the conflict ridden parts of the world.

>>7077682

Utopias don't exist.

In a universe of Time, thus decay, any Utopia would be based upon pure ignorance.

Pure utopia is timelessness.

So what would pure utopia in Time be?

A recognition, nay, a worship, of the death that saves us from Time, or, decay.

Suffering is caused by the death of one thing or another. A pure utopia is an inner utopia that is shared by all people. That is a recognition of Time and the worshiping of "death".

Thus your idea of death slips away, and all that is seen is Life - not by ignorance of death but by the embracing of it -

Utopia is not materialistic, but it will be materialised by what is, when death is cast away.

>>7077719
Bloody poof

>>7078708
Incarceration rates are based on crimes.

Check mate buddyyyyy

>>7078402
>>7077818
stupidest posts ITT

>>7077777
Nice numbers, pal.

>>7078899
Why though
Why bothering posting just to say that

>>7078787
>non-ironic use of the phrase "nay"

fedora detected

>>7077777
impressive, very nice

>>7079100
it's important you understand that your idea a shit.

>>7079112
What? That's my point, no one could understand unless you elaborate

In the early 2050's it is discovered that the soul contains more energy than a thousand suns. But only the soul of a true Christian.

The greedy ruling class now breeds Christians for the sole purpose of harvesting the energy of a soul, then crucify them and use their energy to create entertainment to dull the masses. But the true Christians rise up, burn all of the greasy oppressors and go back to a utopian pre 1800's society, only crucifying a single man every 2000 years.

The world as it is currently.

>>7079127
Now that's what I call shitposting

>>7079105

I believe in the Christ.

>>7079121(you)
you don't need to know why, you just need to go back to /v/eddit

>>7079128
friendly reminder that God created the best of all possible worlds and we are living in it

>>7078402
illuminati pls go

>>7078402
reddit would love this one

Germany 1942

>>7078402
p dece

would everyone wear palewave comfycore?

>>7077777
swell numbers friend

The world where I never need to talk to anyone I don't want to.

>>7078078
>Monotheism never really catches on.
Wasn't Zoroastrianism already a thing by that time?

>>7078402
Everyone is shitting on this but the only things that bother me are the no sex thing, no mention of drugs and little use of technology on people.

>>7078787
Good post.

>>7077867
>>7077878
>>7077962
Butterfly, you need to either stop tripfagging.

I want to hate fuck you so bad for all those shit posts, but at the same time you've been on/off lit for fucking ever so i kinda like you in a backwards way

Planet earth in the future is inhabited by nothing but the descendants of yesteryear's nobility. These people control vast swaths of land and undertake massive building projects spanning the entire planet, each vying to outdo the other. The territories under control are reshuffled every few generations for the sake of change and diverse input. These elite families are among the last living humans, for the bulk of mankind has been culled and purged in order to restore planet earth to an earlier, pre-industrial, pre-agricultural state. In most places, apart from the monuments and machines, the earth appears devoid of human presence.

Among the elite families, or rather, in their charge, lives a small sub-population of artists, craftsman, engineers, scientists, historians, poets and philosophers who apply themselves to their trades. They live in a state of relative ease and seldom want for anything essential.

The labor of maintaining this tiny human race is carried out by robots and automatons, each built to suit a particular purpose. There is not a great deal of labor to be done, because underclasses, which have always been the most numerous, no longer exist. Through selective breeding, those that remain are free from inherited diseases and birth defects. Their physical structures are well-formed and built to last.

Their are wars, occasionally; but they are fought by machines which afterwards have to be replaced, detracting from the power and prestige of a particular house. Peace and cooperation is the default state.

>>7081693

There are wars*

stupid phone

>>7077682
muh incest and muh pot.

>>7077682
barren wasteland

>>7077777
Hory shet

>>7078402
Is this the world hitler visioned, minus the race-mixing tidbit?

all women are born white, have naturally hairless pussies, have beautiful feet, firm asses, and do not physically age beyond 18 years old. their pussies are forever tight. there are no sexually transmitted diseases and the girls are quick to give up the cooch.

>>7079964
Pls tell me u realize Candide was a satire

>>7081660
this tbh

>>7081728
>hairless pussies
Woah slow down lad. I'm not a big fan of jungle-looking bush myself, but that little fiery fuzz around a redhead's plump lips a few days after a shave is heaven.

>>7081749
this is my utopia, bredrin. if you don't like it, make your own.

>>7081728
are u a virgin

>>7081768
i don't think i have to answer that, mate. i mean, it's pretty obvious.

>>7081772
So yes?

>>7081773
are you thick? of course i'm a virgin.

the one and only time i could have had sex was senior year of high school. but i was afraid that my dick was small so i turned it down. it's one of my biggest regrets, one which i think about constantly. that's why i romanticize high school girls.

>>7081790

there's nothing to romanticize. high school girls are the absolute best. the drop off in quality from high school to college is enormous

>>7077777
oh fuuuuuuuuck

>>7077682
same reality but with dragonball z powers.

islamic gommunism

>>7082050
I'd honestly be okay with the amount of free sex in the western world if the age of consent was ~15

The more books you read the more appealing your dick is.

>>7082122
+
The only punishment is ironic punishment

I'm human, therefore fallible, therefore any system I design or imagine others would design would have problems I either ignore or am flatly unable to recognize. Considering the scale of work necessitated by such an undertaking, I could only imagine that any such problem would cause needless suffering.

Utopias are nice to dream about for most smart people, I suppose, but for someone who is as riddled with self-doubt-and-disgust as I am, they are mostly endeavors in examining just how little I actually understand things.

I suppose a homeland with somewhat more firm safety nets would be a decent start.

>>7078120
Unf

>>7078481
I have this concept for an either/or universe. Endless ground below and endless space above. The atmosphere swirls around various stars that light the ground, going out really far.... Well, fantasy is fun. I have a million ideas. Wouldn't call them utopias though

>>7081689
>Butterfly, you need to either stop tripfagging.
Or what?
Do you like the "shit posts" or is that you like the idea of forcibly fucking me? Why in a "backwards way"? You don't like my politics?
Whatever. I'm out on the 28th, so internet is cut maybe 25 or 26 and then it's sayonara suckers.

>>7081676
I mean abrahamic monotheism. Alexander sets up an imperial religion like the Romans did where you can worship any god as long as you also worship him and at least respect other people's gods. Only difference is this is enforced more effectively, the Jews are exterminated and Christianity never happens, Dido on Islam.

>>7082148
I'll miss you auntie I hope you have a nice life.

>>7082148
you've been saying you have been planning on leaving for ages. you wont actually do it.

>>7082148

Post feet

>>7077682
>ctrl+f
>no mention of Plato's Republic
look at this plebfest here

>>7082163
Still lurking about? Aww *hugs*

>>7082166
I did mention that I wanted to leave over a year ago, a year from last January, but Feminister's arrival made things fun again. Later, about three or four months ago I told everyone I was leaving around the end of summer. I *could* come back online, but I will resist.
I'll drop some stories next time you see me. Or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Uk3sExKtao

>>7077818
> everyone getting butthurt because he said he wants a crime free society focused on the intellectual pursuits and a nice family life

>>7078013
Congratulations for getting the joke.

like america, but instead of elections, the president is decided by football games. the teams that do the worse are decimated and their couch crucified.

>>7082148
>I have this concept for an either/or universe. Endless ground below and endless space above. The atmosphere swirls around various stars that light the ground, going out really far...
I had a similar where gravity is focused around a plane, so that all matter is drawn towards the middle in an infinite plane. The world is lit by a infinitely powerful sun an infinite distance away, so that it is always overhead and gives out a comfortable light. There is only one sun though, so the other side is a underworld in perpetual darkness.

>>7082321
you should at least just tell us you are going to start posting anonymously so we can at least pretend you are still here

who will keep the christfags at bay?

>>7077777
Witnessed

>>7077682
The world is divided into thousands of competing city states. No city state has a population exceeding a hundred thousand. Half the population lives in the capital city while the others live in nearby towns and villages that economically provide for the city.

City states engage in ritualistic warfare with each other every year to ensure the virility of the populace. The wars are fought with pre-gunpowder era weaponry. The loser has to pay a tribute to the winner, but there are no territorial changes, and no state subjugates another - the other neighboring states ensure the status quo.

Every city is ruled by a council of elders, the wisest citizens over the age of 60. Voting is restricted to citizens over the age of 40. Citizenship is only given to males who have engaged in ritualistic warfare in their youth - every year from their 15th to their 30th birthday. Only citizens, their families and property are allowed to live in the city. Indentured servitude exists and people can sell themselves to slavery to clear off their debts, but only criminals can be forcefully enslaved - a child of a slave will not become a slave.

Each city states develops its own language distinct from its neighbors and its own culture. Every city has its own religion - it can either be a native religion or a denomination of a world religion, but there is no religious authority that surpasses the borders of one state.

I think this about sums it up.

To me utopia isn't really a place but a state of being. A state of complete unity with God and knowledge of said unity.

I don't need an utopia, if I wanted the world magically transformed in my image I'd just give myself a few billion dollars.

>>7077682
Silence

>>7082840

>your ideal society is one that would scape you off its boot

You just went full fucking retard, fatso.

>>7081739
PRETENTION

>>7082840
I hope you get killed in your first fight.

>>7077682
Something happens and the 90% of humanity gets sterile.

>>7077729
This happened in the past. It was shit. Next!

>>7078402
>the end of history
According to Hegel, this happened with Napoleon, and according to Fukuyama it happened with the fall of the USSR. Yaeh, nah, history will end with humanity.

>>7077682
Pretty much like Star Trek, to be honest.

>>7082262
You are aware that literally everybody ends up getting expelled from it, right?

>>7083051
retard

>>7083060
>Race-mixing with aliens
c
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>>7083062
Nice argument.

>>7083110
doubly retarded

only white people
the official language is german
no degeneracy
strong men are idolised

A burning desert in the day and bitterly at night, mankind has retreated to fortress cities and Mad Max bandits roam the wastes raping and pillaging indiscriminately.

A floating city in the middle of the pacific. Leagues of men of science scurrying this way and that calculating the solutions to a perfect future. Citizens scientifically engineered under the watchful eye of a calculating yet motherly A.I..
The idea of this fills my dreams. I can see myself as a boy running across the solar paneled walkways of the main plaza, my father talking to the other scientists on how to build better rockets. mother gives me my "lunch" capsule of sucrose bacteria. We're going to live for a thousand years

>>7083828
go to bed, Russell Brand

>>7083852
^

A combination of Japan and France. The country is small and can only fit a certain amount of citizens. All citizens are full of integrity and work sincerely at their jobs like Japan, but like France they are not slaves to corporate suits. Tons of vacations for everyone, but not so many that the population becomes lazy like France. Jobs are easily acquirable as long as you seem devoted to do the work during the interview. Therefore everyone has a job, and the economy flows freely.

Women can choose to work in the workforce, be a housekeeper, or both, and are not criticized or condemned for their choice of life style. A woman who keeps her hygiene in good shape and acts in good manner in her daily activities is considered noble and supreme. All other women who act different are considered no different than a man or trash. Birthrate is at just the right amount to keep the economy afloat, not over or under.

The entertainment industry is specialized like Japan: it panders to every niche available within the community. The budget for entertainment is small but the quality is good. Because of this, if you wish to work in the industry you are more likely to have a shot at winning a job and being a writer, musician, director, etc. Entertainment is a mix of Japanese and french: japanese anime with french subtlety.

And lastly, immigration laws are tight, but citizens have no problem with immigrants as long as they work diligently at their jobs and dont bitch and complain about the main culture.

>>7083882
>Women can choose
no

also I think this post is bait

>>7083889
Hey, its my utopia not yours. I am totally open to women working in the work force. What I am opposed of are women who degrade themselves like animals for attention.

>>7083882
France isn't lazy, they just work smart. Asian countries tend to work very hard and inefficiently.

http://www.businessinsider.com/are-the-french-the-most-productive-people-in-the-world-2009-8?IR=T

>>7077777
WITNESSED

>>7077682
He wraps his arms around me
And we tumble to the ground
And then he says,
"I think we're alone now,
There doesn't seem to be
Anyone around."

>>7085356
fag

>>7077777
ebin

>>7084708
Witness those

>>7085373
Annie are you ok

>>7077777

Excellent digits

>>7077682
>Dinosaurs are still alive.

>Dragons are a real thing.

>There are no endangered species.

>Karma actually exists and produces quick results. Like, if a guy on the street calls you a "faggot" and the he suddenly trips on a crack and falls flat on his face. Likewise, if you give save a dog from being abused/killed or whatever and you accidentally commit a prison-worthy offense, the officer decides to let you off with a warning or the judge says "fuck it" and acquits you on your first hearing.

>No animal abuse

>Guys who look like me can date and get to third base with chicks like Keira Knightly and Maria Carey.

>All sexualities that don't cause psychological harm are accepted by society as long as the other one consents.

>Gay guys who look cute in their teens and twenties still look cute after they hit 35.

>Through some unknown power, children cannot die through natural causes or murder until they are 16 years old.

>Married couples need to appeal to Domestic Services before they are legally allowed to procreate to get a child. Like, they must be 25 or older, will be judged on their criminal background, income, status of the relationship (they are psychoanalyzed by a specialist to see if they will become abusive or neglectful), etc.

>Following that, people with extremely bad genetics that cause retardation in children or carry horrible diseases like Progeria, are not allowed to procreate. They have the option of adopting children from an orphanage, thereby reducing the amount of parentless children and having less human beings that cannot live as people.

>Megacities are a thing, and all types of architecture are alive and well. NYC is an art deco metropolis, just like there are other metropolises for Gothic, Roman, Celtic, Egyptian, etc.

My utopia?

I'm King, you're all my slaves.

>>7085518
this is a peek into the psychology of a sad, lonely man

>>7085529
How so, friendolini?

>>7085518
>>Married couples need to appeal to Domestic Services before they are legally allowed to procreate to get a child. Like, they must be 25 or older, will be judged on their criminal background, income, status of the relationship (they are psychoanalyzed by a specialist to see if they will become abusive or neglectful), etc.

>not enough children
>the next generation is unable to pay enough taxes to finance the older generations rent
>the result is poverty among the eldery
>they can't pay for dragon fences

that doesn't sound like a utopia

>instant Karma for good/bad actions
what defines a good action?
what defines a bad action?

>>7085529
reading this makes me feel bad for everyone involved

>>7085531
Would it make more sense if I said an innocent, naïve man?

>>7085548
Please explain, I'm interested in your argument, either way.

>>7085537
Valid points. My reasons are that I'd try to control overpopulation, but not let it get to a ridiculous extent.

>>7085556
Don't mean it in an insulting way, simply that things like
>Dinosaurs
and
>Dragons
are romantic and dream-like, reminiscent of a child's innocence and wonderment.

And things like real karma,
>someone calls someone a faggot and so trips
>people that show compassion (eg through care for animals)
gives me the impression that the author of the post is somewhat compassionate, which one could consider naïve depending on how they view the world, if cynically or pessimisticly.

No barriers of nationality, economy organized by a comittee of bioengineerd geniuses and supercomputers to be completely sustainable and replenishing. There is no scarcity. Humanity is able to seperate itself from the effects of biological nature to the point where nature is perfectly preserved without affecting humans. The only distinctions and stratifications of class and prestige are among different modes of expression and different groups of sciences. Language and semiosis have been reduced to mathematical formulas and communication occurs worldlessly and extremely fast, there are no repressed comunicative desires and there is no seperation between individual and collective conciousness which allows more individual expression and individuals are still given privacy, their unconcious ruminations are felt in the collective conciousness which is then immeadiately sublimated by another part. We are free to explore space, cyberspace and interdimensions and re-write our own biology. Seperateness and conflict on a fundamental don't exist. I would choose to live ageless and beautiful on a blue lagoon-esque setting with my oneitis with and endless library tapping into the larger conciousness when I needed warmth and connection. To survive space humans exist on an almost non-physical level and seed suitable worlds or build 'life' susitaining structures when they desire expression in physical form.

tl;dr burning man / instrumentality (evangelion) / blue lagoon / poul anderson sci fi

Everyone dead but me and the girl I love, left to live out the rest of our lives together in the desolate, beautiful ruins of human civilisation, watching nature reclaim the cities and living only for each other and tomorrow.

>>7077777

>>7077777
FUCK

>>7085578
hope you get a vasectomy first

Instead of the typical "Everyone is compassionate and the world is at peace." stuff, I thought of something interesting.

How do you think our world would be affected if there was no inconvenience? As in, issues like stubbing your toe or accidently leaving yours keys inside the car never occurred? Packages always ship to the correct locations, silverware is never clumsily knocked over, small objects don't get lost forever after they leave your sight, etc. All those minor improvements add up.

>>7085704
>How do you think our world would be affected if there was no inconvenience? As in, issues like stubbing your toe or accidently leaving yours keys inside the car never occurred? Packages always ship to the correct locations, silverware is never clumsily knocked over, small objects don't get lost forever after they leave your sight, etc. All those minor improvements add up.
World peace.

>>7085704
Yeah, add up to a motherfuckin distaster.

You know what's an inconvenience to Jihadi John? When TSA nabs his bomb and arrests him

>>7085713
>When TSA nabs his bomb and arrests him
I'd say that's pretty major.

>>7085722
Yeah but the post specifies "no inconvenience", not "no minor inconvenience"

>>7085573
>Don't mean it in an insulting way, simply that things like Dinosaurs and Dragons are romantic and dream-like, reminiscent of a child's innocence and wonderment.

I did mean for my post to be humorous. Don't you think that would be awesome, too, besides the obvious problems?

>>7085742
By that same logic, authorities would have the same benefit from "no inconvenience" as criminals, so things would be relatively even.

>>7085748
Well sure. It'd be pretty fuckin' cool to domesticate a pet dragon or dinosaur, or use them as transportation and stuff.

>>7077988
>the history of class struggle
Maximum overkek

>>7085829
What so kekky, anon?

>>7077682

Space-based, post-scarcity society. Humans are genetically engineered to be stronger and more intelligent than they are now, they live much longer and are far more resistant to disease. The singularity has come and gone, but the AIs don't want to kill or enslave us, they are our partners in the exploration of life and the cosmos.

>>7086747

>>7077682
Food, water, freedom.

I just want to go back to building cities on the human-scale, with traditional streets like those that we have built for most of history. Cities with large town squares, open public squares, mid-rise building (entire blocks of them), arcades, cathedrals, extensive subway systems, traditional streetcars and trams.

No fucking cars, no fucking suburbs.

>>7078481
But that's already reality.

Shamanism is returned.
Altruism is recognized as a path to immortality.
Technology is no longer external, but internal.
The earth is revered as the cosmic mother of the human race.
Cultivating flora is a global sport.
The world becomes the dreamscape of an enlightened mankind.
All human beings follow the ways properto their soul expression, supported by a vast planetary conciousness that birthed them.
The "Garden of Eden" is manifested upon earth with the help of her mortal stewards.
Magic is mastered and celebrated as an indigenous and proper art.
Architecture and products of all kinds are hewn from the wilderness.
Lifespan increased to hundreds of years.
Enlightenment is a common attainment by the end of a full life.
Elementals and non-human intelligences abound.
God-kings and Goddess-Queens.
Adventure returns to the earth once again.
Death becomes the most exciting journey of all.

>>7077682
one man sits in a room with a button that controls the nukes, he is selected for his IQ and even temper, women and steaks are brought to him.

>>7086986
epic meme bro XD

>>7077682

Everyone likes me and is my friend and the girls have sex with me

I get a wife and kids, and stop feeling like I'm wasting my life.

>>7077682
Happy rich white people only.

>>7077682
I'd like to be a cult leader who believes his own doctrine. I feel like that would just fulfill me.

>>7086947
Thats beautiful anon

>>7082321
But I so much enjoy your presence here

>>7083063
hot tbh
i'm a degenerate piece of shit tho tbh fam

>>7083882
I'm sure the music produced from such a country would be absolutely goat

infinite universal happiness that can't do anything but grow and expand exponentially in all directions. pleasure, joy, every positive emotion—all blooming, new ones occurring, new joys new everything bursting into existence at a rapidly increasing rate, forever.

that's all I ask for

>>7077808
humans are pieces of shit

>>7082718
The point is he contradicted himself.

>>7078717
This. Eastern European Pussy is the best pussy.

>>7082321

No butterfly, as much as I tell you you are a worthless shit and to kill yourself in every thread this board needs you.. At least transfer your trip to someone worthy.. You will be missed

>>7087275
This sounds more apocalyptic than anything. Positive emotions would quickly override other emotions, which is bad since emotional stability requires negativity as a balance. Ever expanding happiness would lead to extreme mania.

>>7077682
Honestly? If the whole world was like America that would be my utopia. I love my nation.

>>7088049

Would you say that buddhist monks are manic?

The way you feel and express happiness is important for its own perpetuation.

>>7088073
What about the niggers?

>>7088073
>wake up in Utopia
>get shot

>>7088073
I'd narrow it down to the Pacific Northwest, Rocky Mountain States and New England. I'm from the South and the breed of Christianity we've got here is not utopian in the slightest.

>>7088187
I can afford to avoid them in person so I consider the portion of my taxes that go to their welfare a well-spent donation to World Star Hip Hop.

>>7088316
>Fly from Utopia to France
>somebody tries to shoot up a train
>get my throat slashed stopping the gunman because I couldn't shoot back
>mfw Europoors unironically believe that "violence is bayud, mmmkay."

All girls are busty tomboys who wear one piece swimsuits.

Realistically though, the perfect world is one where I am infinitely powerful and can control all other variables as I please.

>>7083882
>being this much of a good goy

>>7077722
>surrender your free will in exchange for hedonism
No thank you.

Meritocracy, free of unnecessary suffering. Psychopaths are screened for and removed from the general population.

Stateless, classless, moneyless society based on common ownership of the means of production with a life affirming culture. Although states would be abolished, nations, i.e., collectives that share traditions, habits, and possibly language and ethnicity, would still exist. People would be free to pursue what it is that they are truly passionate about and no longer worry about resource scarcity but without the attitude of the last man. I'd say that is my utopia. Thoughts?

>>7088730
I should also add that there would be an emphasis put on preserving and appreciating the environment too.

BUMP

>>7077682
No off-topic shitposting.

Bump

>>7089435
Bump

>>7089709
Bump

>>7077682
Reality never happened.

>>7089938
What is that supposed to mean?

>>7090022
Nothing ever happened. No time or space. Just nothing. It would be perfect.

>>7087272
Oh absolutely. Imagine a mixture of Maurice Ravel with modern Japanese jazz/electronic. Well, thats the type of music I try to compose anyway...

First there is the universe, enveloped in dark matter. Within this dark matter, buried deep beneath the stars and constellations, is a cube the size of my bedroom. I am one of the last living organisms of my time. I have infinite life. My cube is loaded down with a NASA grade computer which contains games, books, movies, music, and other archives from the ancient long forgotten world of "earth."

There is tons of electricity which flows all throughout the emptiness of space, enough to power my cube at all times. So that gives me infinite power to browse the internet (which works off of satellites from long ago). The internet gives me a chance to chat with others of my endangered kind. If I wish. Or I can choose to be alone.

I spend this infinite life exploring and consuming the vast history of my endangered kind: human beings. Well, I can do that or I just play games and shitpost on 4chan.

>>7088730
Basically this. A natural progression from state to region. All still very much connected with technology, free to grow and think.
Need a purpose in life; nothing could be more grandiose than trying to achieve these goals.

>>7087265
Leaving is bittersweet.

>>7088015
Curious person. I think I recall a conflicted post or two of yours. What did you think of Feminister?

>>7077682
Perhaps men Managed to colonize the stars and and there each planet has it's own military and they are completely autonomous but do answer to a high council of some sort tasked with defending humanity, or We become inter-dimensional travelers that literally fuck ourselves from time to time

Philosopher kings.

>>7090189
REQUESTING RAVEL VAPORWAVE

E'rybody daid, even me. Especially me.

NON SERVIAM

>>7090922
>Joan Baez music playing in distance.

>>7090885
Okay, stop.

>>7077682
Most people are basically gone, somehow. Every man for himself, but not everyone's a cunt so people still help each other out. It's in a big fucking forest and cold 3 seasons of the year. Books and music are somehow not hard to come by even though the population is small. Most food is either farmed or hunted. I would be married to the girl I love and we'd stay madly in love forever. I would have a dog or a per bear and my friends and i would live in cabins in this forest, but all several miles away from each other.

At some point, some force invades (think Vikings) and they must be fought off by the woodsmen and such. Swords and shit like that because guns are too easy. And obviously I'm going to be one of these defenders because hell yeah.

infinite pleasure for infinite beings without any suffering of any kind.

Humanity surges out into the stars with ardent purpose. There is crime and war and pain as there has always been.

I am on the other side of the galaxy, with my consciousness supported by a network of nanomachines integrated into an alien ecosystem on the cellular level.

A life that will inevitably end, thus making your consciousness rare and invaluable. A life on a planet that is seemingly alone in a vast cosmos impossible to comprehend, surrounded by other lifeforms that are both similar to you, and very alien. A life where instead of being given meaning, we are forced to seek out our purpose for ourselves. A life that gets progressively harder as more is expected of you, thus providing you an opportunity to reach beyond your own perceived limits.

Utopias do not exist.

Also, I wouldn't wish one on anyone, because the moment it exists, it becomes horrible.

Post-human anarcho-communism

Oh wait it's already on it's way to happen, anarcho-capitalists and primitivists btfo

The Aristocracy of Beauty, a system in which poets, philosophers, painters, and others who seek beauty have the highest place in the social order.

Second, come the seekers of truth: the Scientific Class. These have limited imagination, for they are limited to what's real. Therefore, they make inventions so that the jobs of the Artistico-Philosophico Aristocracy will be more easier and more practical, such as pencils, printers and computers. Those responsible for making society work at the high level also belong to this class, which means politicians, lawyers, physicians, professors and others.

Third, come the seekers of degeneration: the Inferior Class. This class is the one responsible for putting into practice the discoveries of the scientists and for making society work at the lower level: construction workers, cleaning people, computer programmers etc.

It is perfectly possible to ascend from one class to another, and the higher class is ever changing, for artistic talent is not hereditary. It's possible for you to be a simple construction worker at 25, and the King at the age of 35. All you have to do is to create a great work of art.

>>7091864
Interesting mutation of Plato's Republic

Through advances in organizational, medical, electronic technology, a socialized world were freedom is so high choice is the only problem.

Society has very minimal communal shame which creates Higher dimensionality of new and the preservation of old aesthetics in style,speak,thought,lifestyle.

Elimination of a large number of mundane jobs, currency is needed for luxury not to maintain comfortability.

the incentives for physicality of aggression is lower and conflict emerges mainly on a social level.

Progression of art, technology, ideas, are pushed mainly form inspiration and social pressures.

All things come to be known by the things they are not.

A Utopia is just another term for tyranny.

>>7077777

nice numbers bud

I get laid.

Sunnyvale is an utopian society

>>7078402
so you're a freemason ?

Big anime tiddies

>>7078402
honestly the only right utopia

>>7077682

DEFINE "UTOPIA".

"UTOPIA" IS A RELATIVE TERM SINCE THE WORD ITSELF LITERALLY MEANS "NOT PLACE"; ID EST: A NONEXISTENT PLACE, OR AN ESSENTIALLY IMAGINARY PLACE OR LOCATION.

everyone is male. The women are kept in special breeding factories and anyone having sex has molten oil poured on them as a public form of execution.

>>7081725
No, it is not. Hitler envisioned a world where Deutschland would be the mightiest country in existence, all forms of government would be eradicated, save for nazism and everyone would ultimately bow to him. No unification and one allmighty Führer above all. Or at least that's what I personally deduce from his plans that were rather short-termed (no plan he had lasted longer than five to ten years or so)

>>7093902
I think OP just means our idea of paradise.
I believe you have your ideas. I think read something like it from you before. Have they changed any since I first started seeing you?

>>7093932
>[E]veryone is male. The women are kept in special breeding factories
Contradictory statement.

>>7077818
>t. Varg Vikernes

>>7091773
Sorry about that entropy, clanker.

Yacht anarcho-primitivism, with a complementary breakfast of mammoth tenderloin, courteousy of Captain Zerzan himself.

>>7090910
Ravel is too pure for such a thing

>>7077818
>Neo-pagan religion
trashed

>>7095745
Quite literally. Nigga was a Wizard KV

A strawberry field. That extends forever. Nobody talks to each other, they just wander the fields, eat when they are hungry, and squat where they stand when they need to. From the sky music plays on in an infinite loop. Strawberry Fields Forever.

all modern technology is destroyed

Chicago, Illinois

Just love the girl you got, /lit/.

>>7096094
>chicongo

You can point out the people who are Marxist or subscribe to the "liberal narrative" here, because they all have the same response of a "perfect" version of the hunter gatherers, or pre-historic world.

>>7096096
Not only is my utopia infinitely more realistic than everything else in this thread, I've had the privilege of spending my entire life in it.

>>7096108
how are you still alive man? how many times have you been shot?

>>7096108
Nice reddit tier post

" MY HOME IS THE MOST PERFECT PLACE EVER AMA!!!!"

edit: THANKS FOR GOLD KIND NIGGER

>>7096115
Never!

I've found the key to this is not being a crack dealer.

>>7096126
Oh we can just roll through this thread and see all the wonderful ideas from people who have been smoking pot since noon today. Would an anarcho-capitalist herder society on an unnamed, undiscovered planet be more palatable to you?

>>7096173
Ironically, I wrote this post. we may have more in common than I originally thought
>>7096103
But still, have some hopes and dreams for the future, man.

A world where I am smart and competent.

>>7077682
A world overrun by scampering naked teenagers, namely cute Singapore and Korean teens and blonde bimbo American teens. They would run around naked in everything that they do and liberally play with any cock on sight.

In the evenings, a regular occurrence would be to stop by the local children's home and deliver cum facials to groups of children who are fascinated to see and feel the eruption of semen.

I'm sorry but this is my honest utopia.

>>7097074
Wow, that's real fucking autistic, bro.

>>7097108
Thanks, bro.

>>7077777
ebin

>>7091864
>for artistic talent is not hereditary
:^)

The same as the world today, but with me on top.

Without all the suffering poor people and smoggy cities and dangerous vacation locations to go on Safari at, the atmosphere just isn't the same.

>>7077867
Why do you annoy me so much, butterfly ? Is it because I am projecting my pretentiousness on you ?

18th century Central Europe

>>7091864
>>7086895
the only excellent ones

>>7077682
The world now is my utopia.

>>7097108
Bump

>>7097629
Deep

>>7091864
Yasss

Everything is the same except I have godlike powers. I would impregnate all women with one almighty ejaculation that sends a mushroom cloud of spunk to the earth. I'd then assemble an army in my image and colonise the rest of the universe, hooking up with any kinky alien bitch I come across because why not? We'd then rearrange all of the matter into the shape of a giant me, of which I'd have control, then I'd float through the pre-universe void until the reverse big bang.

>>7077682
A world as it it now, with no people, just me.

>>7097845
Are you not a person anon?

yes

>>7077777

This:

https://vimeo.com/31359086

>>7078402
>all are mixed with lightly tanned skin, sandy blonde hair and vibrant green eyes. Everyone is attractive and in perfect health with slender figures.
>Sex is seen as primitive and no longer desirable for pleasure,
What's the fucking point, then?

>>7097913
>blonde hair and green eyes the result of mass interbreeding
Do you people just have no idea how genetics work? Both are recessive and would definitely be outed by African/Asian genes which are both dominant and significantly more abundant.

All are dead. The history that follows is an unthinking oblivion.

>>7097940
do you know what the word utopia means? you are the idiot

>>7077682
every male except myself is exterminated.
i am declared king of the world.
orgies ensue.

>>7097940
I'm just humoring him and accepting it as a possibility. If you're going to nitpick about the lack of realism in that idea, nitpick at the timeframe - his utopia happens in less that 150 years, which is barely a couple of generations. No way you'd be able to racemix a race like that even if it was possible in such a short time frame.

In truth, 90% of the ideas you people posted are awful and for fags and barely a couple of them are anywhere near as cool as my idea from >>7082840

There's a few cool ones like >>7097751 >>7097506 >>7096062 >>7086895. Stuff like >>7085518 would be cool since he wants to exterminate worthless endangered species like the pandas and bring back cool ones like the dragons, but he's also a fag because he wants to control birth, practice eugenics or hurt people for saying mean words. >>7097074 would be cool too if he didn't ruin it with pedoshit.

Everyone has the body of someone in early-20s, the brain of a child and the wisdom or knowledge of a 60 year old

or one where I'm not alive

1) Fusion with machines via mind-uploading
2) Interstellar colonization becomes easy if you have a sleep-mode built in
3) Humanity loses individuality
4) Immortal hive-mind, one per planet
5) Everything looks like a zen-garden
6) No muslims

>>7077682
Everybody is a fairy and has merry good time frolicking in the woods and playing music. Everybody lives forever and they seldom have children, instead of large cities, there are small settlements everywhere where everyone is welcome because they don't often have guests in their towns. You can live alone in the woods because the earth isn't a bitch about resources and everybody is a hunter-gatherer instead of farmers.

>>7097906
Yeah. Love that film, especially that sequence.

>>7097520
I'm not sure, anon. Are you projecting pretentiousness on me? I really don't think I am.
I've normally been a rather insecure person for most my life.

>>7097877
"Yes" what? Is this aimed at the anon above? >>7097520

Oh well. Dying thread.