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7069785 No.7069785 [Reply] [Original]

If you don't toast toast, is it still toast?

>> No.7069789

I hope to God that you're fucking with me.

>> No.7069796

arguing semantics is pretty dumb when you understand the meaning

>> No.7069797

>>7069785
The application of heat changes the state of the object from bread to toast. Bread becomes toast due to a process known as the Maillard reaction.

As sugar in the bread reacts with an amino acid under the heat from the toaster or grill it forms an irreversible reaction - also known as 'caramelising' the bread - to give it that toasted colour and flavour.

Science wins again, philosophy fags.

>> No.7069801

Toast doesn't go into a toaster, bread does. You don't toast toast, you toast bread

If you toast toast all you're left with is burnt bread

>> No.7069803

>>7069801
>all you're left with is burnt bread
Not burnt toast?

>> No.7069805

No. Language follows reality, not the other way around

>> No.7069809
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7069809

>>7069785
Toast is toasted bread. Therefore, untoasted toast is equivalent to untoasted toasted bread. Untoasted toasted bread is therefore just bread.

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>>7069797
>>7069809
SCIENCE DA SHIT HURR

>> No.7069813

>>7069805
But if language is our only way of explaining reality, then reality, follows language

>> No.7069818

>>7069785
Toasted wheat

>> No.7069836

>>7069785
If you drink a drink, is it still a drink?
If you're building a bulding, is it sill a building?
>>7069803
>>all you're left with is burnt bread
>Not burnt toast?
it's the same
>>7069809
this

>> No.7069844

If you give a mouse a cookie, is he going to ask for a glass of milk

>> No.7069845

If you don't toast toast, by definition it remains toast. The structure of the sentence suggests that you are suggesting toasting toast AGAIN.

Toasting toast would make it burnt toast. Although I suppose if you did it carefully, you could have twice-toasted toast that isn't burnt.

>> No.7069861

>>7069797

Science avoids the actual question entirely, once again.

>> No.7069870

>>7069797

>let me throw out some random facts about toast that I memorized without in any way engaging or attempting to answer the question
>this is called science, right? I think it is.
>Science is just a body of random facts, not a method of interrogating the natural world or anything like that, right?
>I don't know because I'm an engineer but I like to pretend that's science and not just taking stuff other people discovered through actual scientific inquiry and using it to make things I can sell.

>> No.7069896

>>7069785
Yes. If it is already toast, and you do not perform an additional act of toasting it, then it will remain toast. Easy.

>> No.7070013

>>7069785
yes. your starting point is toast, and you're not toasting it further.

>> No.7070040

>>7069785
Toast becomes toast through the process of toasting bread.
Henceforth, if you do not toast bread, it is not toast.
If it is already toast though, it cannot be toasted again. Because repeating the same process on toast will simply turn it into burnt toast. Thus the process is simply burning toast. It can't be called toasting, as it is not producing toast.

The OP is completely wrong, and facile, as you cannot toast toast.

>> No.7070057

>>7069861
science answers real questions
philosophy answers pseudo questions

>> No.7070061

>>7070057
science answers nothing

>> No.7070066

>>7069785
No. It's bread. Duh.