/lit/ - Literature

people keep saying that

>>7060281
>forum

>>7060281
>tfw no wan wan

This imageboard* runs on philosophy.

crossboard memes ruin this forum
Looking at you, /pol/ and /r9k/

>>7060295
Get a load of this cuck.

Oh, on the contrary.

"Philosophy has teachings for a man at his birth as well as in his decrepitude" - Montaigne

"Let not the youngest shun philosophy or the oldest grow weary of it. To do so is equivalent to saying either that the time for a happy life has not yet come or that it is already past" - Epicurus

"[Philosophy] is equally profitable to poor and rich and, to neglect it, will harm boys and old men alike" - Horace

"Philosophy's object is to calm the tempests of the soul" - Montaigne

Help your soul, anon. Help yourself.

>>7060281
no, meme Zizek posters are
>Philosophy ruins this forum.
what about the christianfags ?
>forum.

A board full of nothing but Joyce and Pynchon would be so much better huh

>>7060281
philosophy ruins yer butthole

>>7060295
normie get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7060295
>He isn't redpilled
Keep getting Jewed, tbh

>>7060350
Hell yeah.

>>7060281
>implying philosophy posts haven't increased the overall quality of /lit/ and attracted intelligent people to hole up here.
It's like you want to be like /pol/

>>7060317

Could you go into more info rather than just have a bunch of quotes from guys who've been dead for centuries?

I don't get philosophy at all and have no idea what it's about. I'm not trying to be a fedora meme, it's just that when I read a science book, I'm actually engaged because I'm learning things about the world.

When I read about how Plato thought that everything comes from an alternate dimension where the best of everything is, I just have no idea what to make of it. And when I read about how some other Greeks though that everything was made of fire or water, I just don't see the point in learning about something so wrong.

>imageboard
I'm blinded by all the images in this thread.

>>7060383
I mean, they still existed and their opinions on philosophy carry on. I've never quite understood the "they've been dead forever" argument. Why post on /lit/ if you don't like reading the opinions of dead guys?

Philosophy isn't about being right or being wrong, IMO. For me, philosophy stimulates my mind and allows me to come to my own conclusions about the world around me. Reading philosophical works that contrast with or agree with one another merely gives me more food for thought and more stimulation to come to my own conclusions. I mean, sure, you might read Anaximenes and think "hey, you're wrong. The world isn't a leaf" just as you might read Thales and think "Hey, nope, the world isn't a disc. I'm a genius" However, this isn't the point. It's about studying the relationships philosophers have with one another, studying how they came to their conclusions, studying how they built off and tore down one another over the course of philosophy and, as I said, it's about reaching your own conclusions through critical analysis brought on by reading philosophical texts.

Montaigne argues that it's important to reach your own conclusions (he's a huge advocate of experiencing the world yourself and condemns spending all of your time reading/studying), but that studying philosophy aids in this process. In establishing your views on the world around you and reaching conclusions about how it effects you, Montaigne argues that one becomes happier, basically. Thus he, and the other guys I quoted, hold the opinion that philosophy leads to a happier and more stable frame of mind.

>>7060383
Science has almost always branched off from philosophy at the point in time where we acquire the tools or techniques to empirically study something.

Today it would probably at cognitive science, once almost exclusively in the realm of philosophy, then psychology, and now biology.

Look up philosophy of the mind, including thought experiments like the China brain, the Chinese room, Mary's room, the brain in a vat, the teletransporter, and people like Searle, Chalmers, and Putnam who are all still alive

Philosophy is the only good thing about this board. Otherwise it would just be a circlejerk of people who like to pretend they've read Infinite Jest and Gravity's Rainbow.

Please for the love of god, create a /philo/ board, so I can stop affiliating with fucking cucks who masturbate to infinite jest.

>>7060575
You'll be as unwelcome there as you are here.

>>7060585
No-one is welcomed anywhere on this website. That is why this website exists. I just would rather have a strict /philo/ board, rather than having to filter all the shit about lit so I can read some philofag shit.

Based REI

http://mundusmillennialis.com

>2000 + 15
>not reading contemporary aphoristic philosophy
SHIGGY

>>7060615
put your gimmick back on, rei

>tfw your two favorite hobbies are reading and literature
>tfw it would be devastating to you if the board split into two

>>7061557
I meant philosophy and literature

>>7061561
Tbh /lit/ would go to shit and /Phil/ would probably be the new /lit/

Kinda like how /tv/ patricians come here to discuss film because /tv/ blows so much dick. /lit/ would be overrun by genre fiction if the philofags left

>>7060383
shit son read a book

>>7060383

> I'm actually engaged because I'm learning things about the world.

>When I read about how Plato thought that everything comes from an alternate dimension where the best of everything is

Yeah you didn't get it. Plato's theory of the forms is about attribute agreement- if everything of a certain type shares some quality that defines them as belonging to this type- then to Plato- there is something static about all of them that qualifies them as that type and not another type. Plato saw the natural world as a place of constant coming to be and decay, so he figured that these static points of unity that made types intelligible can't be in nature- but rather have to be outside of nature in an ontological location that is not subject to becoming ( this does'nt mean another physical realm like ours though- he was talking about a whole different kind of existence). If they existed in our world then they themselves would change and would not be those static points of unity that other things could be defined by. So for Plato things in the world are like imitations of these pure points of unity outside of the flux of nature- never perfectly fitting the definition, but "taking part" in their likeness. Like how a painter imitates the thing he paints. Our recognition of these types come from our intellect- which has access to these points of unity and can pick out things like them in the world.

This is important, Science itself doesn't really tell us anything about these "universal" properties or how we can intelligibly engage in this kind of universal predication, rather scientific discourse makes use of such terminology first and foremost before it even goes on and does it's work. So this question of "universals" has to be taken care of with metaphysics, as the foundation by which Science can actually be intelligible.

Not everyone is Platonist when it comes to "universals", and Philosophy is not merely about imparting set knowledge. It is about being actively pursuing knowledge for oneself. Aristotle, for example, thought that there really were "universals" inherent in natural things. Going on to the Middle Ages with Abelard and Ockham we get Nomilaism which claims that "universals" are actually just linguistic devices that we use. There are many positions on this subject. Philosophy gives you the tools to work through these positions or perhaps form your own.

>>7060281
only because everyone heres so FUCKING HORRIBLE at it

>>7060350
absolutely.

just because you cant distinguish the author from their memes dont mean shit son

>>7060281
best post and thread on /lit/

philosophy fags pls go

>>7060281
Agreed

Even art threads are better, if not strictly literature. Philosophy just invites every tryhard on the site to ask for a license to tip their fedora or act smart.

Which is unfortunate, because there are some good posts and threads

>>7060383
>I'm learning things about the world.
being this underaged

>>7061951
thanks for effortposting, good read in a sea of shitposts

>>7060281
>philosophy ruins this board
>not the piles of blatant shitposting that remain unpruned
Sure thing, bud.

>>7060383
Now you know why Math is the strongest philosphy AND science

Dostoevsky vs Nabokov threads are so much better than continental vs analytical philosophy threads tbfh.

>>7060383
Because your fucking dumb enough to think that throw away shit like the four elements is all Aristotle talked about

>>7060295
get out ya bloody normie!!!

>>7060383

>Doesn't get philosophy at all
>Still has identified philosophy as the thing that is ruining the board

K.

Im happy with how /lit works.

Ah cannae post in onie other threids coz ah disney nae whit they're oan abit wiit th' images.