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7035742 No.7035742 [Reply] [Original]

>But that which checks or arrests the will is something positive; it proclaims its own presence. All pleasure consists in merely removing this check - in other words, in freeing us from its action; and hence pleasure is a state which can never last very long.

>This is the true basis of the above excellent rule quoted from Aristotle ("not pleasure, but freedom from pain, is what the wise man will aim at"), which bids us direct our aim, not toward securing what is pleasurable and agreeable in life, but toward avoiding, as far as possible, its innumerable evils. If this were not the right course to take, that saying of Voltaire's, Happiness is but a dream and sorrow is real, would be as false as it is, in fact, true.


Is he right?

>> No.7035754

Not really and him going too far here--and making too strong a claim that borders on ridiculousness--is the weakest point of his philosophy.

He really should have dialed it back a bit.

>> No.7035759

>>7035754
Had he taken the "suffering leads to greater joy" path I think he would've ended philosophy then and there.

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>>7035742
Yes he is, negative hedonism is the way to go.