/lit/ - Literature

>>7032115
>I am triggered by ideas
Enjoy staying spooked, then.

Nice tummy you stupid slut.

>>7032120

>unironically supporting 21st century leftism

>>7032115
>Womxn

oh do behave

>>7032115
Yeah, poco's boring and every damn piece of literature in their arsenal is boring political drivel.

>2015
>Reading literature
>Not reading superior blogposts made by middle class american females about how unpriviledged they are

>China, Japan, Korea,.. in other words all the appealing Asian women were once colonized

Asian American leftists sure do wanna be victims too.

>>7032115
It's shit like this that makes me worry about the Contemporary Lit course I'm enrolled in.

>>7032135
>seriously using "leftism" as a blanket term

>>7032115
where is the unpacking video

>>7032153

>calling everything that you disagree with fascism

>>7032155
Who are you quoting anon? I can't find anything about fascism in my post.

>>7032153
when people say leftism they mean the strain of leftism that is popular in media and academia and you know it

>>7032115
I'd unpack and decolonize her if you know what I mean

>>7032161
I'd dick→colon-ize her

>>7032151
>China
>japan
>Colonized
Wat

>>7032174
Not the person you responded to but Japan was originally colonized by China. Don't let Japan hear you though. They'd lose their goddamn minds.

>>7032184
that's not real colonisation though

>>7032174
America gave Japan a helping hand after the war and there was a lot of cultural exchange. To the birth-control addled female brain this is the same as cutting off hands on rubber plantations.

>>7032184
>Not the person you responded to but Japan was originally colonized by China.
Haha, get off this board m8.

>>7032174
China was definitely colonized, man

not like Africa-mode but still very high levels of European control after the opium wars

>>7032187
lol what? China did what Britain did to the Americas. How is that not colonization?

A lot of feminists and poco folks like pic related would probably make the argument that the market has colonized asia, but a thinking person could say that the market does that to everyone.

>any year
>keeping yourself confined to the echo chamber that is the white, male experience

>>7032197

Occupation and influence is NOT colonization.
Get your terminology right, fucker.

You can't just call any military presence and cultural influence 'colonization' because it happened to les PoC.

>>7032213
/thread

>>7032209
But i am mexican

>>7032198
real colonisation is only by white people

>>7032209

The other non-white echo chambers involve:
- Islamism
- Ruthless authoritarian state capitalism in Asia
- Ethnic nationalism
- Identity politics

>>7032213
Neocolonization is still colonization.

>>7032219
This.

>>7032125
/thread

>>7032237

We were talking about the past...

No one talks about how the white man was colonized in the United States by the British.

>>7032219
There is only white and black

>>7032224
>everyone else is retarded so that excuses my retardation
Kill yourself, tbh.

>>7032281

No, we possess the tradition of the Enlightenment.

>inb4 dey do too

Yeah a neglible urban minority.

>>7032284

The Enlightenment wasn't genetically confined to white people and passed on sexually. It's a cultural attitude that has more or less run its course, but it proliferated pretty much everywhere in the western hemisphere.

>>7032299

Ok, where did I say it was a genetically confined tradition?

>>7032299
>It's a cultural attitude that has more or less run its course
Are you fucking kidding me

I've always wondered, how do you trigger these bitches without being racist or sexist enough to get a negative reaction from regular people? Like, I couldn't just stand up and shout "Suck my cock, Tojo!"

>>7032334

As a recognizable movement in its own right. It spawned and mutated ten thousand children. But the brood is not the mother.

>>7032364
Hold the door open for them and let them go first

>>7032219

build wall

>>7032195
King Leopold did nothing wrong

>>7032224
>Islamism
>bad

How does Westerners even come up with this stuff? Your precious Shakespeare would be nothing without the foundations set by Islamic historians and scholars.

>>7032478
You mean the Greek philosophical and scientific texts?
And yes, Islamism is bad in the sense that it clashes with the very core values the West was build upon.

>>7032478

Islamism=/= Islam you doofus.

>>7032364
If it's an Asian gril like OP's pic, she probably spends half her time whining about white dudes having yellow fever and objectifying Asian women and the other half fucking white dudes and wishing she were white. Just point that out,

If there are any Asianbros itt I'm sure they can confirm this.

>>7032115
>De-colonizing the hypersexualization of Asian Womxn
How do you de-colonize hypersexualization? Is she saying that it's okay for Asians to "hypersexualize" Asian women but not anyone else?

>Womxn
Autism

>She's wearing a shirt that exposes mid while presumably complaining about "hypersexualization"
It's like she doesn't even want to be taken seriously.

Itt typical 4chan white bois weaboos with repressed yellow fever getting btfo via their own revealing comments
Kill yourselves

>>7032115
I'm so glad I'm out of college.
>unpacking
>de-colonizing
I always heard these shit buzzwords flying around.

>>7032213
Hong Kong and Shanghai literally became part European colonies you fuckwit since they were forced to give certain quarters to Europeans.

>>7032532
im korean and all the asian girls i know are normal people

>feelings aren't just feelings, they're facts
Emma "feminism" Gas-em'burg

>>7032702

Are you fucking kidding me?
Hong Kong and Shanghai? You forgot Macao too then, dickwad.
But seriously, a bunch of hubs near the coast you consider to be COLONIZING of China?

Get the fuck out of here. I'm sure you're not even Asian, but stop this leftist shit where you want your precious minorities all under the umbrella of colonized.
East Asians were most definitely not colonized.
Defeated in war and territory claimed, yes, but not colonized.

So many people trying so hard not to be intellectual in this thread, lmao. Do the big words make you insecure? :(

>>7032724

Go blow your white boyfriend and then read Butler.

>>7032364
If you're rich, casually discuss expensive stuff you do without seeming self-conscious about it.

If you're trying to trigger a black girl, be pro-gun, pro self-defense.

If she's Asian, make it apparent that you like Asian stuff and are primarily attracted to Asian women.

Triggering hispanic liberals is all about national sovereignty.

>>7032184
>>7032198

modern colonialism is a western phenomenon arising from capitalism. the relationship between japan and china (before japan learned imperialism from the west in the meiji era) can be understood as an extension of feudal relations (japan being subordinate to china), not one of accumulation or empire

>>7032222
This is now a fact

>>7032891

Are you even capable of having a single thought that hasn't been run through the Rube Goldburg machine that is the Marxian framework?

>>7032925
Ask that question after you're capable of thinking.

>>7032925
Marx is the mind killer

>antimarx ITT

>>7032925
>>7032937
>I have no way of criticizing that was said meaningfully, I better making some kind of person attack or someone, including myself, might realize I'm an intellectually bankrupt

>>7032959
Welcome to talking to reactionaries 101

>>7032115
> tfw wrote my thesis on postcolonialism in Zimbabwe
> conclusion was that Mugabe and his people were to blame for the shit and not the white population (although there was discrimination)

only barely passed

>>7032966
>implying this isn't the case with libs
>still championing an obsolete political theory tyool 2015

my father grew up in a communist country and he tells me time and time again it was no picnic.

i laugh and laugh seeing you fruity girl-wristed hipsters tryna talk about revolution. fuckin kek put a sock in it faggot and don't forget the extra sugar

>>7033009

>WAAAAAAAAHHHH muh property rights, muh cabrio, muh iphone, muh mindless consumerism, muh bourgeois freedom of speech

stay cucked faggot.

>>7032125
let her dress however she wants dude

>>7033009
>muh dad worked for nintendo

>>7033028
lel nice meme bro, sorry someone brought some life experience to bear to these arguments for once, instead of just babby's Theory of Everything He Came Up With In His Room

>>7033009
yup, if you're not shouting for revolution, you're a cucked bluepilled insta faggot, got it chief

>>7033031
my dad said he seen a ghost, my personal anecdotes are more reliable than yours

>>7033009

My gf is from China and she can't believe we still have Maoists at universities here in the West.

>oh and I definitely colonize her every day, ifyouknowwhatimsayin

>>7033024
Look at the screen she's standing next to faggot

>>7033018
absolute freedom of speech must be retained under socialism.

>>7033009
>my father grew up in a communist country and he tells me time and time again it was no picnic.
Really? holy fuck, I thought communist countries were picnics. This whole fucking time, I thought we were talking about picnics. Fuck, guess I have no choice but to get my ass full-force assfucked by the self-destructive idiocy that is liberalism and its maladjusted reactionary shits.

>>7033050
>my gf

There is literally nothing wrong with colonialism.

>>7033064

Stick to your play pen /r9k/

>>7033038
lol, because saying you saw a ghost and having to keep all negative opinions about your country's dictator to yourself for fear of a secret police no-knock raid in the wee hours are totally equivalent. this fuckin board

>>7033061
it's almost...

as if...

being a cargo cult parroting faggot...

on both sides of the issue...

is retarded...

and, worse, completely counterproductive...

>>7033079
>sexist moron on /lit/
>says anyone else is /r9k/
I don't think so m9

>>7033055
You are proving her point.

>>7032115
nah

>>7033084
Why do the majority of people living in ex-soviet nations, who lived during the USSR, think life was better under socialism than capitalism?

>>7033094
every communist experiment in the past 100 years has been a complete and utter fuck-up so no i dont think grigori over here feeling nostalgic about soviet-era vodka does much for your argument

>>7033094
>Implying the USSR was in any way socialist.

Socialism is a word that means something.

>>7033094
Except they don't, save for old pensioners. Most of it is nostalgia. 'Oh, the fish tasted better' kind of stuff.

t. ex-USSR nation

I hope that you Western retards will stop discussing things a la 'let me tell you about your country'. Very reason why we are in the shitter is the socialism. That's about it.

>>7032478
Lets be real here chump Islam put out very little work for the amount of time it was a significant world power.

>>7032478
>muh islamic golden age

>>7032115
Deconstruct my dick nigga

>>7032959

Jesus, you're barely coherent.

Identifying an argument as Marxist is sufficient to falsify and condemn it. But anyway, my point was more that no matter the question, you'll get the exact same answer from a Marxist, garbed in typical convoluted jargon, saying little but serving only to identify oneself as such.

>>7033113
The islamic "golden age" is an orientalist construct which seeks to deligitimize the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The only worthwhile thinker it produced was Ghazali and his opinion was, quite correctly, that "philosophy is incoherent bullshit". Islamism is opposed to the valorisation of some pseudo-muslim aspies as the stepping stone to your important thinkers.
itt: marxists got btfo'd and, once again, islamism prevails.

>>7032891

Mostly agree, but Japan certainly had a colonial-type relationship with the Korean peninsula long before the Meiji era. I think they occupied it as early as 1100 AD. It seems a bit pedantic to make capitalism a necessary ingredient to colonialism.

>>7033024
>tfw will never be this pathetic

>>7032209

but its by far the best echo chamber

>>7032708
>nonwhite
>normal

pick one, brah

>>7032334
how is it possible for anyone to still not see the failure of the Englightenment?

every new day is a bitter/hilarious mockery of it.


people who believe in progress are just... monsters, pretty much.

>>7033239

oh shut the fuck up and stop regurgitating whatever your 200 level professors told you

>>7033156

You clearly haven't done any research on the Islamic Golden age - to call it an oriental construct is facetious in itself. To completely neglect the advancements made by Islamic philosophers, astronomers, physicians, and mathematicians is to completely neglect two hundred years of history.

You make the argument that Al Ghazali (who wrote the Incoherence of Philosophers) was the only significant thinker of the Islamic golden age but that's completely self-contradictory. The premises of Ghazali arguements would have never been formulated without the significant impact that the translations and commentaries being made by his contemporaries and predecessors. In other words, the philosophical works of Plato, Aristotle, and the pre-socratic Greeks would have never been made available to the Middle East or Western civilization without the efforts of several philosophers that lived with and before Ghazali proposed his notion of the incoherence of philosophy primarily in metaphysics and ontology. That argument in itself that you just made is dependent on the thriving influence that the province of philosophy had on the history of science and philosophy during the course of the islamic golden age.

>>7032364
Call'em hon or luv, dear, sweetheart any term of endearment. Dumb ass frog poster.

>>7033242
yes, as if my views are in line with the average lecturer/professor

>>7032925
the 'colonial' relationship between china and japan pre-meiji is nothing like britain and new england colonies

u a dumb a$$ niqqa

>mentioning reading in my politics makes it /lit/

>mentioning reading in my politics thread makes it /lit/

>>7033350

????

Where did I make such a claim?

>>7033104
>implying eastern europe has ever _not_ been in the shitter

>>7033050
Talk about fabricated quotes.

>>7033255
>the pre-socratic Greeks would have never been made available to the Middle East or Western civilization without the efforts of several philosophers that lived with and before Ghazali proposed his notion
Christian monks did exactly the same, they also stored the old Greeks in their monastery libraries, to study, translate, and copy them.

>>7035024
And to hide them

>>7032146

>Heart of Darkness
>Katherine Mansfield's NZ stories
>Gabriel Garcia Marquez
>Salman Rushdie's work
>Chinua Achebe - The Yam Diaries

yeah, all post-colonial writing is shit m9