/lit/ - Literature

>>7024188
>then is meaning and significance fundamentally a delusional thing
yes.
>>7024188
>How could the human mind conceive of something so abstract with no basis in reality
because human mind is nothing as well.

>>7024188

>If nihilism is true, then is meaning and significance fundamentally a delusional thing?

Yes, but it isn't so you can carry on living your life.

>>7024197

>because human mind is nothing as well

>hasn't heard of neurons

>>7024203
consciousness is not the brain buddy.

>>7024197
What we can conceive of cannot possibly be nothing. True nothingness is not an idea that the mind can conceive of. In a sense, the real nothing is a nothing beyond the nothing that we know. Even the nothing that we know is something.

Your a 'tard.

>>7024208

Oh yeah?

>>7024215
rude buddy. i know what being-for itself, reflection etc. is. op looked as if he needed a generalization.
>>7024218
ya. das it mane.

To think is one thing, to hold value in something is another.
As an example, money is only worth something while we collectively give it worth, but we are not born with inherent reverance to it, that comes from conditioning. So as a nihilst, you could say that there is no inherent value in it, and possibly a great many other things. Thinking is something we just do, whether we deem it significant or not, so nihilism in that way is a moral philosophy, not teleology or ontology. We may not have purpose or reason to be, but I am yet to read a nihilist that disputes being (whether actual or illusionary).

>>7024229
Generalization and simplification are no excuse for being wrong.

>>7024229

You'll really have to substantiate that. If consciousnesses doesn't emanate from the brain, where does it?

>hopelessly awaiting mind to be blown

>>7024245
pic related.
>>7024246
>>7024246
>If consciousnesses doesn't emanate from the brain
you said it yourself: emanate from
i said >>7024208
emanating from is not being it.
is your urine your dick?

>>7024188
>if *insert philosophy here* is true
hmmmmmm

>>7024188
Tears in the rain? They are still tears, we still feel. We evolved to keep track of patterns and then die. So what? You care still? Go have fun→

>literally the most miraculous thing conceivable, reality itself, exists
>something out of nothing
>the brute undeniable fact you are here reading this, breathing, existing
>everyone just woke up in this world one day and no one knows how we got here
>fucking crazy mane
...

>heh nihilism heh

Fuck off

>>7024301
>everyone just woke up in this world one day and no one knows how we got here
and then he rested

>>7024262

Are you confused so easily?

You began by denying the existence of mind and then, when pushed for clarification, decided turn to consciousness - a different concept - by telling me this new concept wasn't another, third concept.
("consciousness is not the brain buddy.")

>>7024310
i don't see any confusion.
>denying the existence of mind
saying mind is "nothing" with a picture of sartre is not saying it doesn't exist.
>a different concept
how?
>third concept
you came up with that "concept" and i said "is not".

>>7024301
>My life is completely perfect, or I pretend to not notice the inherent absurdity of existence, either way, fuck other people's experiences, because I'm best, and you all suck

>>7024338

So, here's what you've taught is:

- the mind doesn't exist

- the brain isn't consciousness

I'm at a loss for words. Truly, a great mind (oops!).

I'm a true nihilist.

>there are people who are nihilists in the year of our lord 2015
>there are people who still don't understand Nietzsche

>>7024368
>the mind doesn't exist
>>7024338
>saying mind is "nothing" with a picture of sartre is not saying it doesn't exist.
im tired of repeating. the closest words in english are vain and emptyness i guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_nihilism

i'll go eat some.

>>7024341
absolutely autismal

>>7024408

Try reading some more.

So... what are good books on nihilism?

>>7024439
the fault in our stars

>>7024442

This.