/lit/ - Literature

Odyssey

i never check to see what race authors are, so i have no idea

>>7024330
>2015
>being racist

>>7024330
>trying to read a work without sufficient knowledge of author/authorial intent

Jesus Christ

Epic of Gilgamesh

Ulysses

inb4 dumas.

im out of here.

>>7024343
>implying authorial intent is relevant at all

my diary, tbh

>>7024357
You're such a pleb.

>>7024350

This tbps (too be perfectly sincere) fam

I don't know the ethnic backgrounds of the authors of books I have read

The best book by a non-white person is probably Chinese.

>>7024396
Chinese isn't a book, it's a language.

>>7024399
I was using the word "Chinese" as an adjective in that sentence.

>>7024410
Books can't have ethnicities because they're not legally people.

>>7024325
The Code Book by Simon Singh

Journey to the West

>>7024417
shut the PoC up

>>7024399
I meant to say it's probably by a Chinaman

>>7024417
Check your cis-objectival privilege, shitlord!

You don't know what it's like for trans-book people like mysefl!

>>7024496
ha ha epic reddit

>>7024325
Don Quixote

>>7024495
Don't pretend to be me you cunt

>>7024329
>>7024508
>Spaniards and Greeks are not white

>>7024525
well, they aren't
come on

>>7024501
Back to 9gag with you.

>>7024531
Of course they are wtf?

>>7024525
Too much Moor blood tbh.

>>7024525
It's like you don't know a single thing about race science tbh

>>7024542
No, they're not. They're hispanic and mediterranean.
Do you think pacific islanders or bahamians are white?

Eeee Eee Eeeee

>>7024554
Hispanic and mediterranean are ethnicities m8. They are white by every single definition of white.

That's like saying if you're Norwegian, you're not white.

>>7024562
>brown
>short
>look like arabs
>white
I don't know Jose, I think your perception of whiteness is a bit distorted.

Race is a construct created to divide the proletariat and frankly the idea of "white" and "non-white" peoples upsets me deeply.

>>7024325
2666

but why should race matter when it comes to literature?

the bible

>>7024571
>Having ancient admixture means you're not white, even if your skin is white

>>7024580
But they don't have white skin tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Great_Classical_Novels
Now piss off

Colorless Tsukuru and his Incredibly Long Title

>>7024325
what would you recommend the person of grey in the pic?

>>7024713
C&P
Count of Monte Cristo
Of Mice and Men
The Complete Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway, as well as The Sun Also Rises

>>7024575
>Rapelaño
>not white

>>7024721
>C&P
>slavs
>white

>>7024713
On the Jews and their Lies. Would really open her eyes I think.

>>7024721
white or not, those are "outdated". modern works?

>>7024739
>implying sitting in your room at college whinging on and on about how nobody gets you and you're a snowflake isn't white as fuck
>implying getting away with murder even after admitting to the police isn't white as fuck
>implying going to dive bars or other unsavory places and just sitting around judging other people isn't white as fuck
>implying falling in teenage love with a poor hooker manic pixie dreamgirl isn't white as fuck
Seriously all of C&P could be a douchey indie movie

>>7024769
>Ernest Hemingway is outdated
It makes me sad that this is how people actually think

>>7024769
Fucking hell, Hemmingway is "outdated". I dread to think of what you think of all the works which have formed the corpus of Western civilization.

>>7024786
>>7024798
Chill, fam. I put it in quotations because I meant in terms of time. I was more curious about the quintessential contemporary white man experience. white collar middle class european or american. Dosto and Hemmy's characters have seen some shit and lived in different times.

>>7024836
>I was more curious about the quintessential contemporary white man experience
Updike's Rabbit series is the closest you'll get to that experience, at least for American readers.

>fam
What the fuck does this mean?

>>7024855
Fam means cuz

>>7024325

>inb4 genre fiction
>inb4 Asians are white

what do you mean by white? non western? because even Mishima can be considered a western writer

>>7024553
Probably because there's no such thing as race science.

Temple of the Golden Pavilion or Things Fall Apart

>>7024855
fam means Ohana

Are Irish considered white?

>>7024970
It depends on which agenda you're trying to push.

Since 4chan supports the Slavs aren't white meme, I like pretty much anything written by Russians. There, I get to enjoy quality literature and unlike you shitlords, I'm not rayciss.

>>7024970
For the purposes of professional race baiters, Irish, Slavs and any other white ethnic group that underwent profound discrimination, abuse, violence or slavery is considered part of the great monoethnic WHITE block, that collectively is responsible for all evil. Corsair raids? Arab slave trade? What the fuck is that, you racist?!

>>7024970
Of course not, it's almost like you people don't understand race science at all.
>>7024948
nice try Shlomo

>>7025000
Yeah, let's all ignore the fact word "slave" literally comes from "Slav" and blame them for plight of black people even though most of them have never seen a black person in their lives since their countries are so poor they don't want immigrate there and they never practiced slavery.
Man, gotta love SJW logic.

Once all suprasensuous content and transcendence from human culture is left behind I guess all that is left for people to place their intrinsic value on and separate themselves from one another is their empirical immediate possessions such as consumerist products and things like race and sex.

>>7024325
The Summa

>>7025011

Is that what Lampwick from Pinocchio is supposed to be?

the bible

>>7025102
Shit, he very well might be. I guess Pinocchio did come out at that time in the US.

>>7025102
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeoTdAHIV7M
he sure as fuck isn't supposed to be human

>>7024769
REEEE

>>7024970

>gaels
>people

To quote that most Gaelic Gael of Gaelic lineage:

"We're not horses nor hens: seals nor ghosts: and, in spite of all that, it's unbelievable that we're humans.?

>>7024574
Mah comrade

>>7024574
Class solidarity is a construct created to divide nations and frankly the idea of "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" classes upsets me deeply.

>>7024325
No Longer Human or Kokoro.

>>7024325
Unless you count the Greeks as non-White, I have precisely 1 book that isn't written by a White male, Kamel Daoud's The Meursault Investigation, which only exists in relation to Camus' The Stranger, and I haven't even read it yet anyway.

I love the white male hegemony of my bookshelf.

>>7024325
Count of Monte Cristo

The Han Fei-tzu.

nah j/k it's the classic of filial piety

Borges
>inb4 Argentina es white

>>7024325
>"Do you have any books on the white-male experience?"
>Yes, we have several memoirs on fatherhood.

>>7024325
my all time favorites are by non white people.

don quijote, savage detectives, the count of monte cristo.

Mika Waltari - The Egyptian

Finns aren't white

>>7024571
Most Spanish people aren't brown m8.

>>7024325
Kawabatta's Takes of the Palm of the Hand

If you don't count meme nonwhites, I really don't know.
I've read two of the supposed 4 Chinese classics and they were trash.

Hagakure is probably my favorite.

>>7025300

>Most Spanish people aren't brown m8.

t. pure aryan andalusian

>>7024783
Tumblr, go home

>>7024525
Mediterraneans aren't white.

>>7024325
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace with the Sea

Spinoza's Ethics.

>>7024562
It's a historical fact that Spaniards are descended from Arabs and Berbers, and it shows on many of them.

Pic related is a prime example:
>hooked nose
>narrow eyes
>brownish-yellow skin
>eyes black as coal

I'm not even from /pol/. On the contrary, I think it's important to show that what most /pol/acks consider the pinnacle of "white culture" isn't actually white.

Also, can we stop having pointless race-bait threads and actually start discussing actual literature again? I've been away from the board for a rough month, and when I returned, I was shocked to see that it had managed to steep even lower than before.

Definitely Borges

>>7025364
/pol/ really is ruining this entire site. I can't go on any board without reading the word 'cuck' at least once. It's really fucking depressing. It entirely flattens the already meagre possibility of decent conversation because if you post anything mildly liberal, you are a SJW tumblrite out to genocide the white race.

>>7025364
His skin is still white. And the race to the bottom never stops.

I've never read any

We Need New Names by NoViolet Bulawayo and what I read by Chinua Achebe in high school. I can't really recall much about Maya Angelou, but I remember at least enjoying her autobiography when I read it in middle school. I honestly have not enjoyed the Toni Morrison material I have read thus far.

>>7024348
Oh, and of course this. But I was thinking entirely of material written after modern conceptions of race emerged.

>>7025381
Yeah, so much worse than when /b/ was king, right? And before "cuck" we had "NTR" all over the place. 4chan doesn't really change.

>>7025460
Fair enough. Although with /b/ there was always the knowledge that they had no real agenda.

>>7025258

>>7024325
nah

The Wretched of the Earth

White Teeth by Zadie Smith, anything by Junot Diaz

>>7025381
The left brought it on themselves. They embraced that sjw feminist mind poison and now everybody hates them.

>>7025810
those g*d d*mn
S
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This right here. Racism is for plebs, sexism is where it's at.

>>7024325

Anything by Avicenna or Al-Ghazali.

>>7025167
Nationality is a construct created to make individuals easier to manipulate and frankly the idea of "us" or "they" upsets me deeply.

>>7025460
Nah, /b/ was fun. Bring /b/ back.

The only non-white written lit I've read for pleasure is ancient stuff like the Upanishads, The Art of War, bits of the Koran.

Oh!

Wait!

No, I've got a modern one: Blink, by Malcolm Gladwell!

The collected works of Roosh V, especially Bang Poland

Langston Hughes wrote good poetry

I like Japanese lit but I bet Japan doesn't count as non white in sjw thinking because they're really privileged. So, I'd have to go with Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin.

>>7025364
This man looks pretty white, only someone with unconventional ideas about race would deny it.

>>7024325
I really liked Samarkand by Amin Malouf. Maybe it isn't the best I've read, but it's my favourite (written by a non-white author).

I also think Omar Khayyam in general is awesome (and that's probably why I liked Samarkand so much).

>>7024325
>that feel when Dumas was a mulatto
Makes pretending to love diversity easy as fuck.

there are non white authors???

>>7024325
Norwegian Wood by Murakami.

>>7026040
Quadroon, not mullato.

>>7026133
Mah nigga, I was just about to post this.
Honestly, the song has never been the same either. The book did it better.

>>7026161
>>7026133
The only rebuttal I can think of is that Murakami's works are translated by white men into English.
So despite the fact that he speaks English and probably gives them the once over and approval before publication those are still technically the words of a white man.

Now I know this is bullshit, but that would be the argument I'd pull if someone was trying to debate me on if I only read books by white males.

>>7024357
Of course it is.

For example, reading St. Augustine's Confessions without understanding what position he was in or the political context of the time really puts a damper on understanding what's really going on in the whole scheme of things, and where the book fits into Christian theology and philosophy as a whole.

>>7026171
I hate to admit it but you're kinda on point there. Ultimately, no matter how much it's approved by Murakami, they're still someone else's words. They can't convey the culture in which the book is set or the way the language flows naturally in its native tongue.

But I think that's the problem with any translation unless it's done by the author himself. Hell, it's the problem with learning amother language altogether.

>>7026171
Well, this can be said about pretty much all the writters mentioned in this thread.

>>7026194
Weirdly enough in the preface to Hear the Wind sing Murakami said that he wrote his first few books in English first and then translated them back into Japanese, his English was very limited and thus he kind of created a unique style of writing because he avoided complicated words and had to narrow his focus down to the most simple version possible.
Fascinating idea really.

>>7024325
>Irish isn't white
Looks like I'm a quarter ethnic.
Where do I sign up for my ethnicity privledge?

Kokoro

I will probably see Straight Outa Compton once it's available on DVD if that's any consolation.

Popol Vuh

>>7026238
The irish are considered the niggers of white people.

>>7024365
heh little do you know

>>7026338
Yeah, Irish are total thugs, they commit as much crime as Italians but don't have the same instincts for corruption so they usually just resort to strong armed robbery after a binge drinking episode. it took about 100 years to clean up all the crime and corruption the last major influx of catholics brought and now the democrats want to open the border for more!

>>7025381
>>7025810

>>7024343
>>7024357

Authorial intent isn't relevant but historical context/embodiment is. Read Barthes' Death of the Author and then N Katherine Hayles' writings on Phillip K. Dick.

>>7026417
>Barthes' Death of the Author
>authoritative

>>7026417
well, it might be relevant in the same level context is, it's just not word of god.

Cien años de soledad

>>7025381
Memeologist, here. Was cuck a /pol/ or /tv/ meme?

Really disappointed in you /lit/

>>7024325

Atlas Shrugged :^)

>>7026570
>non-white

Ralph Ellison is as culturally white as you can get

>>7026994
You've clearly never read that book.

>>7026998
just because other people can't deal with spooks doesn't mean he isn't white

>>7026994
OP asked for non-white authors. You can't go changing the criteria and expect to get away with it.
YOU were looking "culturally non-white" all this time? So this is how you can miss one of the best novels of the 20th centruy.

"Culturally non-white"
Read it, nigga.

>>7027008
I'm pretty sure the content of the book means he isn't culturally white.

But don't just take my word for it:
http://bpi.edu/ourpages/auto/2010/5/11/36901472/Ralph%20Ellison%20-%20Invisible%20Man%20v3_0.pdf
That's the whole book.

The Afro-Caribbean Odyssey

>ctrl f Pushkin
>0 results

damn iliterates.

>>7025992

Is it written well? Looks interesting. How is Baldwin as an author?

>>7024325
I don't consider Mediterraneans, Semites and Iranians to be non-white, so none.

>>7026300
are the writers, not the actors of that show non-white?

>>7025117

>that file name

Lel

>>7027352
I was kidding. I'm not really going to watch a movie with black people in it

>>7024765
underrated post

Mediterraneans have tans, kids.

They are still white Caucasian European.

>>7024325
Things Fall Apart.

>>7026154
There were 3 Alexandre Dumas
The first was a general in Napoleons army
His son was the the author
And his son was a play write, known primarily for Camilla

There was an early 20th century olympic fencer who was a great grandson too

The Stranger.

Walter Mosley has written good Hardboiled detective novels about a black man in LA in the 1940s-1960s

I Dindu Nuffin by Tyrone Jenkins

>>7029849
The first Alexandre Dumas was the son of a French plantation owner and one of his slaves
At one point he got into debt and had to sell his mistress and the children he had with her
Just think about that and let it settle in for a while

>>7025260
Underrated post.

>>7025870

>Turnin' tricks for slats into stacks of scratch.

My nigga.

Ecclesiastes

It's so embarrassing how proud you illiterates are of not being well read.

>>7027122
Baldwin is top five best American writers, duh it's written well.

>>7024325
Noruwei no Mori or Onna no Inai Otokotachi by Haruki Murakami.
>inb4 weeb

I quite enjoy the fantasy of the 1001 Arabian Nights

>>7029837
Actually a quality book. It is very nationalist, and displays the dangers of forgetting the ways of your people and hastening to adopt of the ways of foreigners.

Don Quixote

>>7030017
>Spain
>not white

>>7027122

Yeah it's pretty good. Maybe a little overwrought. The book also has nothing to do with race.

>swart Moors
>white