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>> No.7007443

Lolita
Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
One Hundred Years of Solitude
No Longer Human
Woman in the Dunes

>> No.7007456

Infinite Jest
Lolita
Dubliners
Crying of Lot 49
Brothers Karamazov

I like to think I have a rather diverse taste; atleast compared to the common reader.

>> No.7007459

>>7007436
no

>> No.7007462

>>7007436
To the Lighthouse
Recognitions
Gravity's rainbow
Beckett's three novels
Barthelme's 60 stories

>> No.7007464

>>7007456
>diverse taste
>the welcome to /lit/ starter pack
mmmmmmmm

>> No.7007466

>>7007456

Well you don't, pleb.

>> No.7007470

Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Infinite Jest
Lolita
Ego and Its Own

>> No.7007475

>>7007456
to the common reader maybe, but that is basically the common white male literature reader starter pack

>> No.7007481
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>>7007443
>One Hundred Years of Solitude

>>7007456
>Infinite Jest
>Crying of Lot 49

>>7007462
>Gravity's rainbow

>>7007470
>trying this hard to trigger people

>> No.7007484

>>7007436
Aeneid
Odyssey
Illiad
The Bible
Ham on Rye

>> No.7007491

>>7007484
You had me until Ham on Rye. Completely out of left field.

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>>7007484

>> No.7007497

>>7007481
What's wrong with 100 Years of Solitude or Gravity's Rainbow? GR is undeniably one of the greatest works of literature.

>> No.7007499

Paradise Lost
Moby-Dick
To the Lighthouse
Where I'm Calling From
The Rings of Saturn

>> No.7007500

>>7007491
>>7007494
It's a masterpiece. Laugh all you want

>> No.7007504
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>>7007436

The Things They Carried
Catch-22
Homage to Catalonia
A Sorrow in Our Hearts
The Zone of Interest

>> No.7007517

>>7007475
Out of interest, what would be the "typical black female's lit starter pack"? You know, like what those sassy ones from Twitter would read. I'm guessing Toni Morrison and Zora Neale Hurston would feature. I genuinely want to know; I'm as racist and sexist as the next 4channer but I've had a hankering for some diversity lately.

>> No.7007521

>>7007517
Wouldn't the list just have like five black female writers? That's all of them right?

>> No.7007528

>>7007517
>black
>female
>reading
Pick two, but reading isn't allowed to be one of them.

>> No.7007537

>>7007528
I see quite a few black girls on campus these days and I'm sure they're not studying STEM.

>> No.7007539

The Gambler
Pedro Páramo
Call of the Wild
South Sea Tales
Grandpa Toad's Secrets

>> No.7007540

Genealogy of Morals
Phenomenology of Perception
Myth of Sisyphus
The Underground Man
Ethics by Spinoza

(Yes, I am tryhard philofag)

>> No.7007541

>>7007436
nah

>> No.7007543

my diary tbh
120 Days of Sodom
Tai Pei
Das Kapital
God is not grea, how religion poisons everything.

>> No.7007547

>>7007537

I would hold on tight to your wallet if I were you.

>> No.7007550

Pale Fire
Murder in the Cathedral
Contact
The Idiot
Pnin

>> No.7007569

The Hobbit
Book of the New Sun - Shadow of the Torturer (part 1 of Shadow & Claw)
The Holy Bible
The Metamorphosis (always evokes a feeling of comfyness just by thinking about it)
Silmarillion

Would have named the LotR trilogy but those are 3 books in one go. All in all, I have some 12-15 all time favorite books.

>> No.7007570

>portrait of the artist
>crime and punishment
>the idiot
>frankenstein
>catch 22

>> No.7007578

Anna Karenina
War and Peace
Crime and Punishment
The Stranger
The Posthumous Memoirs of Bras Cubas

>> No.7007589

The Sun Also Ruses, Hemmmingway
East of Eden, Steinbeck
Where the Red Fern Grows, some yokel
The Blind Owl, some dude from Oilville
Letter From an Unknown Woman, Stephan Zweig

>> No.7007777

>>7007499
why paradise lost tbh

>> No.7007785

>>7007456
>I like to think I have a rather diverse taste;
why would you care if you have diverse tastes unless you are absurdly vain

>> No.7007800

Phenomenology of Spirit
Das Kapital
Arcades Project (Benjamin)
Dialectic of Enlightenment
Prince (Machiavelli)

in no particular order. i am a huge nerd for hegel and marx

>> No.7007803

>>7007528
fuck you, get back in /pol/ with this adolescent bullshit

>> No.7007811

>>7007540
My man! I'm >>7007800. Merleau-Ponty is badass. I'm going to start reading Spinoza soon. Do you also read Heidegger?

>> No.7007813

laszlo krasznahorkai - war and war
laszlo krasznahorkai - satantango
laszlo krasznahorkai - seiobo there below
laszlo krasznahorkai - the melancholy of resistance
kazuo ishiguro - the unconsoled

>> No.7007829

>>7007803
>triggered this hard
>>>/t/umblr

>> No.7007871

>>7007829
caring enough to post racist comment the first place go back to poop.com

>> No.7007876

>>7007443
Bhhh

>> No.7007892

To The Lighthouse
The Iliad
Ulysses
Wuthering Heights
The Idiot

Something along those lines

>> No.7007904

>>7007871
Wow you sure showed him

>> No.7007913
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7007913

the sun also rises
brief encounters with che guevara - particularly the ones in haiti
moby dick
20,000 leagues under the sea
the tipping point - although blink and what the dog saw have some very interesting points, the tipping point was the one that really had the strongest underlying theme

I'm a fan of amerian lit, as you can see
I have experience with the greeks, some french and english works, but american lit is really what I want to write about

>> No.7007922

To Kill a Mockingbird
Great Gatsby
Catcher in the Rye
Scarlett Letter
and my diary tbh

>> No.7007924

in search of lost time
ulysses
don quixote
the recognitions
beckett molloy/malone dies/the unnameable

>> No.7007927

The Theater and its Double - Antonin Artaud
Ulysses
Capital
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Castle

>> No.7007937

Hard to tell, but probably:

>Blue of Noon
>Runnaway Horses (the whole tetralogy is amazing, but that's the book I enjoyed the most)
>The Ego and Its Own
>One Hundred Years of Solitude
>On the Will in Nature

>> No.7007940

The Trial
Absalom, Absalom!
Gravity's Rainbow
J R
Don Quixote

>> No.7007960

>>7007499
Tell me about the rings of saturn

>> No.7007966

>>7007927
>Artaud
Fuck yeah, nigga.
>>7007800
lol Hegel fanboys on /lit/. The Prince is patrician tier, though.
>>7007569
lol

>> No.7007972

Infinite Jest
The Brothers Karamazov
The German Ideology
The Rings of Saturn (new to the list, idk if it'll stay)
Philosophical Investigations

>> No.7007976

>>7007960
It's awesome. The sense of time in that book is unlike anything else I've ever read. Sebald does an excellent job creating this dream like state, and the whole thing is way more compelling than the lack of plot would indicate. Just read 20 pages, you'll get addicted.

>> No.7007980

1. Less Than Zero - Bret Easton Ellis
2. One Hundred Years Of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
3. Catch-22 - Joseph Heller
4. The Crying of Lot 49 - Thomas Pynchon
5. Siddharta - Herman Hesse

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>>7007811

Yeah. However, I enjoy the earlier Heidegger (young and marburg period) rather than Later Heidegger. I am more interested in his questions regarding phenomenology, ontology, and the issue of Dasein over and against his more poetic spin on the question of Being in his later works, e.g., letter on humanism, question concerning technology, etc. To put it bluntly, I am more of a S&Z kinda guy.

>> No.7007987

>>7007972
i've just picked up Rings Of Saturn. Never read any Sebold. What would you say?

>> No.7007988
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>>7007436
Portrait of the Artist
If on a winter's night a traveler
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
Siddhartha
To The Lighthouse

>>7007813
Is this sincere? I just started Satantango and it's p cool, but is he really that much better than anyone else?

>>7007976
Also just started this one, should I read the emigrants after? I have Austerlitz but I'm gonna wait on it since he wrote it somewhat later.

>> No.7007993

Infinite Jest (DFW)
Inherent Vice (Pynchon)
Suttree (McCarthy)
Acceptance (Vandermeer)
A River Runs Through It (Maclean)

>> No.7007995

>>7007940

> Absalom! Absalom!

> No other Faulkner

> muh nigga

>> No.7007997
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>>7007543

>> No.7008000

Moby Dick
Zhuangzi
The Narrow Road to the Deep North (Flanagan)
In Search of Lost Time
Either Huckleberry Finn or The Grapes of Wrath

>> No.7008007

Invisible Cities
Journey to the End of the Night
One Hundred Years of Solitude
The Wind in the Willows
Slaughterhouse Five

>> No.7008011

>>7007988
I havent read rings of saturn but tge emigrants is extremely dope

>> No.7008014

The Savage Detectives, Bolano
Ficciones, Borges
If on Winter's Night a Traveler, Calvino
The Idiot, Dostoevsky
The Wind Up Bird Chronicle, Murakami

>> No.7008027

>>7007987
>>7007988
Rings of Saturn is the right place to start, I think Austerlitz is his next best.

The thing that interests me most about Sebald is how time is represented in his work: in Faulkner, or other modernists, time is 'deep' and tortured. In Sebald you just sort of dreamily drift through a series of recollections and coincidences of space and time. It's great.

>> No.7008029

2666
Underworld
Mason and Dixon
Gravitys Rainbow
Rising Up and Rising Down

>> No.7008033

>>7007517
well if they are culturally western probably something similar to the average white girls choices. Probably the same stuff like Nabokov, Dostoyevsky with a few female authors thrown in.

>> No.7008039

>>7008007

Yo. I just starting reading Invisible Cities this summer. Some of those imagined cities are impeccably beautiful in terms of how they are conveyed poetically.

>> No.7008043

>>7008029
Which Pynchon did you enjoy more?
Which was easier to read, which was more rewarding?

>> No.7008044

>>7007517
lmao

>> No.7008052

>>7008039
For real, no other book has ever wrenched my heart in the way that it does.

>> No.7008056

>>7007986
Very cool I am actually in the same camp, not much of a fan of the mystical Heidegger, SZ is much better and very educational, can't fully endorse it of course but there's a lot to learn there, he was a very smart man (though perhaps not a "great philosopher").

Where would you recommend starting with Spinoza? The Ethics? I am a Marx/Hegel person primarily and Spinoza seems to be behind at least some of Marx's critique of Hegel, or stands as an alternative to Hegel in some sense. I wonder whether you might have anything to say about his famous "all determination is negation," esp. in relation to sublation/aufhebung - idk how familiar you are with Hegel, but i am clueless on spinoza, shamefully so

>> No.7008084

>>7007966
>implying hegel is not patrician tier?
I don't get the h8 for Hegel, at the bare minimum he is fascinating for his ambition, imo up there with Kant

>> No.7008090

If on a winter's night a traveler
Gravity's Rainbow
Stoner
Invisible Cities
To the Lighthouse

>> No.7008093

>>7008043
I actually had an easier time with Gravity's Rainbow.. Yeah the maximillism could be dizzying at time but as long as you can have fun with being so tangled up and are alright using google at times, its not really "difficult" (at least for me).. Mason and Dixon really put up a fight with the first hundred or so pages because of the sorta english thats used (i know that seems stupid) but after that there were only some bizarre narration shifts that bewildered me (section 51 and 52, if anyone here has read i really wana discuss).
Outside of that these 2 novels are really outside of the realm of comparison, there is similar themes and even reoccurring characters but the payoff and the way i enjoyed them stand on their own..

>> No.7008099

>>7007436
Huh, I guess mine have changed lately.
- The Iliad
- Brothers Karamazov
- Ficciones
- Solaris
- Infinite Jest, once I recover from Avril being a disgusting ubercougar

>> No.7008104

>>7007785
>why would you care if you have diverse tastes unless you are absurdly vain


Damn, everyone is too judgmental.

>> No.7008123

>>7008093
I actually just finished reading V., I liked it a whole lot, but even with it allegedly being one of Pynchon's easier novels, I still feel like I only grasped about two thirds of it. Would you recommend me moving on to his more challenging works?

>> No.7008139

Odyssey
One hundred years of solitude
Dante's Inferno
Dune
The Aleph and Other Short Stories (my name is Jorge Luis, funny enough)

Yes I am probably a pleb.

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>>7008014
>>7008090
>>7008007
>>7008039
How do you guys think Calvino is such a genius? I've only read If on a winter's night a traveler, but I just can't help feeling insignificant whenever I think about it - the webs of connections and recursions and meta-commentaries hint at things so far beyond my comprehension, it's just so overwhelming.

>> No.7008157

>>7007436
Revolutionary Road
Lolita
Under the Volcano
Burr
Blood Meridian

I'm aware of how entry level this is.

>> No.7008163

>>7008056

Yeah, I would just dive into the Ethics. The Ethics is fairly straightforward, but I think it is part five in the Ethics, that 1) Ties together several threads he has been sowing since the beginning of the book, 2) lays down certain insights that are usually neglected by average readings of Spinoza; for example that Spinoza was a 'hard' determinist and was essentially atheistic in his so-called 'pantheism;' part five is where you have the taking place of what I would call a proto-existentialism that has a different spin on things like freedom, God, eternity, etc. than typical 'rationalists' like Leibniz or Descartes.

In regard to Hegel, I have read some parts of Hegel's phenomenology of Spirit and the Science of Logic. I specifically worked with Hegel's critique of Kant's ding an sich, relying on Hegel's onto-logic (what I call an ontology that is necessarily co-terminus with a logic). Long story short, I argued from the perspective of Hegel that every utterance or proposition of Being is already tied up in saying too much; in other words, every utterance of Being is always a proposition regarding determinative being, and contains within itself both a logistical structure (a logic) and an ontology (a claim about what is). For example, when I make the claim, that the Transcedental Aesthetic (Kant) does not concern itself with the thing-in-itself (ding an sich), I am necessarily making a determination regarding the thing-in-itself, even though I perhaps am avoiding it. To say that thing-in-itself is outside the scope of our analysis, necessarily determinates the thing-in-itself, and so, the thing-in-itself is defined in its negativity. So, this is how you have Hegel saying that Kant's thing-in-itself is necessarily an abstraction, for every utterance of Being is always wrapped up in negating, determinating, and lastly (and most esoterically) sublating. Anyways, there is alot at stake here( and I can probably babble on more on this issue, especially on how I interpret sublating as synonymous with a philosophical uplifting), but I am not sure how Spinoza fits into the picture, other than Hegel attributing Spinoza to this discovery. Hegel is the one who adopts this principle and really drives it home against other philosophers, e.g. Kant.

Nah, I consider Heidegger's S&Z to be the pinnacle of philosophical work. I am interested in the issue of temporality, anxiety, death, existentialism, phenomenology, hermeneutics, and ontology; so there is isn't much to not like, at least insofar as I am concerned.

>> No.7008223 [DELETED] 

>>7008152

That is the point though, isn't? At least from what I read from Invisible Cities, it is essentially a work on interpretation, and the emphasizing emphatically on the finitude of the understanding (interpretation). Metaphorically speaking, Kublai Kahn is the reader and Marco Polo is Calvino. Just like Kublai Kahn, we are witness to a whole set of poetically drawn stories that hint and point in differing trajectories; we have no other choice but to forge a narrative and attempt to comprehend these cities upon the basis of our own experiences. Do you think Kublai Kahn really understood this small Venetian merchant? From his perspective? In a foreign language? We have to grapple with our finite understanding, and that is what I think Calvino is a genius. I may be wrong, but that is my impression of reading Invisible Citites.

>> No.7008242

>>7008152

That is the point though, isn't? At least from what I read from Invisible Cities, it is essentially a work on interpretation, and emphasizing emphatically on the finitude of the understanding (and therefore, interpretation). Metaphorically speaking, Kublai Kahn is the reader and Marco Polo is Calvino. Just like Kublai Kahn, we are witness to a whole set of poetically drawn stories that hint and point in differing trajectories; we have no other choice but to forge a narrative and attempt to comprehend these cities upon the basis of our own experiences. Do you think Kublai Kahn really understood this small Venetian merchant? From his perspective? In a foreign language? We have to grapple with our finite understanding, and that is why I think Calvino is a genius. I may be wrong, but that is my impression of reading Invisible Cities.

>> No.7008250

>>7008139
you do not get pleb status you simply have shit taste

>> No.7008274

>>7007517
Toni Morrison
bell hooks
Octavia Butler
Phillis Wheatley
Jamaica Kincaid

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>>7008242
I suppose Winter's Night is about a similar thing, although I think the final two chapters are meant to convey both the limits and different approaches of interpretation, and the way in which the heart of the work is unchanged by interpretive techniques. It's also very much about the lack of distinction between our experiences of life and our experiences as readers, and the fragmentary yet interconnected nature of both of those things.

>> No.7008314

>>7008286

Sounds like a book I should read. Thanks for the characterization.

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>>7008314
You most certainly should. It's frustrating at times but deeply rewarding in the end.

>> No.7008370

The Sound and the Fury
The Name of the Rose
Moby Dick
Blood Meridian
Crime and Punishment

>> No.7008457

My diary tbh parts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5

>> No.7008645

>>7007436
who's the cute?

>> No.7008702

I'm just going to list the last five I read:

Vile Bodies / Waugh
Gravity's Rainbow / Pynchon
In Cold Blood / Capote
A Clockwork Orange / Burgess
Handful of Dust / Waugh

I like to read some four or five smaller books between massive ones, I have Infinite Jest on the shelf for next, but I'm putting it off because it's probably rubbish.

>> No.7008714

>>7007462
60 stories has about 5 good stories in it, the rest are 2postmodern4u garbage.

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>>7007436
Silence
The Brothers Karamazov
The Gulag Archipelago
East of Eden
Divine Comedy

>> No.7008730

Gravity's Rainbow
The Sound and The Fury
Underworld
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Been Down So Long it Looks Like Up to Me


Gravity's Rainbow blows everything else out of the water though. I love it like I've never loved a book before. I hope one day when I finally get the courage to try Ulysses I experience something similar.

>> No.7008743

>>7008702
It's not. The people who say it is are pissed that they couldn't finish it so they jumped on the meme train.

>> No.7008753

The Count of Monte Cristo
Infinite Jest
Devil in the White City
Shadow Divers
The Old Man and the Sea

>> No.7008760

>>7008743
Read the whole thing, still regret it. Waste of time.

>> No.7008781

>>7008033
The white female starter pack is anything by John Green.

>> No.7008787

>>7008781
do grown women actually read him?
I thought that was a tumblr-browsing teenage girl thing

>> No.7008789

>>7007436
Le horla (Guy de Maupassant)
L'assommoir (Emile Zola)
Jacques le fataliste (Diderot)
Ruy Blas (Victor Hugo)
Eugenie Grandet (Balzac)

>> No.7008839

Sex Code
Sex Code
Sex Code
Sex Code
Sex Code

I need to get laid badly

>> No.7008918

Jules Renard - Nature Stories
John Forbes - Collected Poems
The Haunted House and Other Stories - Virginia Woolf
Trilobites - Breece D'J Pancake
What We Talk About When We Talk About Love - Raymond Carver

>> No.7008969

>>7008163
I think Hegel and Heidegger share some really interesting ground, especially with regards to history and the question of transcendence with respect to history. I.e. on some readings of Heidegger, which I think are probably reductive but not problematically so for what I'm saying here, he historicizes philosophy in a very radical and almost Hegelian way: for Hegel philosophy is its own time comprehended in thought, and for Heidegger each philosophic epoch has privileged access to their own truth (in an existential fashion and beyond). So on this reading of Heidegger, Platonic idealism really was "true" in some sense in relation to its own time, or if not something else was, or even more minimally that certain truths make themselves apparent and able to be transmitted through a certain medium and just for a certain time (or "age" in the sense of "epoch"). Hegel has something similar going on here, but i get more of a transcendental treatment in Hegel, that is that dialectical logic (in Hegel's rich onto-logical sense), or perhaps more precisely dialectical interaction, is the unifying or transcendental element that renders each element dialectically relatable to each other moment (hence "the truth is the whole"). Each element is somewhat paradoxically immanently intrinsic to each other element, viz. the whole.

There's also the relation between the life and death struggle in the Phenomenology and Heidegger's own being-toward-death. And perhaps more interestingly, question of the existential "with" - I'm sure you're familiar with this if you read Merleau-Ponty - but the relation of the "with" to Dasein's own-ness. Hegel ostensibly would read Dasein as a moment within Spirit - or actually, would he? Spirit and Dasein are actually very interesting in that they are both functionalist notions, in a way. So they could apply to a person's inner workings, or, say, a government, a state, etc. A solar system (deep-time ecology nerds).

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>>7007569
>The silmarillion

Very yes.

Mine are
>american pyscho
>the wind in the willows
>misery
>the silmarillion
>white fang

>> No.7009075

>Crime and Punishment
>On Heroes and Tombs
>The Castle.
> The Tartar Steppe
>The Lady With The Dog and others stories.

>> No.7009816

The Bible
Philosophical Investigations
Carthesian Meditations
Consolatio Philosophiae
Life a User's Manual

>> No.7009890

>>7007988
it is sincere, in that he's my favourite author at the moment and i really love all of those books. i wouldn't say he's necessarily better than everyone else, he's just the guy i like the most at the moment

>> No.7009940

Book of the New Sun
The Brothers Karamazov
Chehov's short stories
Anna Karenina
Stoner

>> No.7009944

Journey to the End of the Night
The Plague
The Trial
Darkness at Noon
Lolita

>> No.7009998

>>7008084
His ambition is at the same time what makes him fascinating and what makes him look ridiculous. Maybe parts of his logic (which I have not read, but a lot of people whose opinion I respect agree) are good, but overall it's just pointless philosophical masturbation. His system dosen't explain anything, it just seeks justifications for his previous convictions.

>> No.7010001

>>7008043
I'm halfway GR and it's been very rewarding so far. It's not that difficul to read as long as you don't expect traditional prose. I agree with >>7008093

>> No.7010089

>>7007436

can you please not post this image ever again? it makes me feel a certain way..

>> No.7010093

>>7010089
iktfb

>> No.7010106

Basing mine on Influence > Enjoyment[1]

1) Sons and Lovers - D.H. Lawrence
2) the Conquest of Bread - Peter Kropotkin
3) the Trial - Franz Kafka
4) The Myth of Sisyphus - Albert Camus
5) IJ - DFW

[1] As is the correct way to rank literature if one ranks it at all.

>> No.7010131

>>7009998

>but overall it's just pointless philosophical masturbation

... ...

>His system dosen't explain anything,

... ... ...

You might just be the single dumbest person on this board. Systems don't explain, they describe, Theories explain. Philosophy does not need a point.

>> No.7010140

Atlas Shrugged.
1984.
Brideshead Revisited.
Nausea.
Kafka on the Shore.

>> No.7010156

>>7007497
I want you to write down that claim. Save it for as long as it takes for you to realize there's no way to be best literature, then revisit it and stare at it for 4-5 hours. Fuckin idiots.

>> No.7010176

why would i share my taste with you children

>> No.7010193

>>7010176
Kill yourself my man

>> No.7010198

>>7010193
sorry i don't listen to meme rap

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>>7007436
A Farewell to Arms
The Sound and the Fury
As I Lay Dying
Jane Eyre
Crime and Punishment

>> No.7011088

>>7009998
There are a lot of very nice things one can do with the Logic. Look where it went - I mean everyone reads Hegel, you can find Hegel in almost every single important philosopher after him (whether as positive or negative influence, taking up his ideas or setting against them), excepting maybe some analytic thought for the first half of the twentieth century - and those thinkers didn't take H seriously, to their own detriment.

I'm not convinced you can actually make a strong criticism against Hegel.

>it just seeks justifications for his previous convictions

This could be said of ANYONE, this is one of Nietzsche's favorite points but I'm not sure its an indictment of Hegel over and against any other thinker. If you still value rational argumentation you can't really make this point, at least not immediately as an accusation.

Hegel is a god and he is also better than your favorite philosopher, so suck it

>> No.7011092

>>7007500
My nigga.

>> No.7011115

>>7008918
that book nature stories seems really neat, why do you like it?

>> No.7011129

>>7008104
it is just an observation

>> No.7011275
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>>7007436

In no particular order

To Kill a Mockingbird
Slaughterhouse 5
Naked Economics
How Not To Be Wrong: The Power of Mathematical Thinking
Switch: How to Make Change When Change Is Hard

>> No.7011294

>>7011275
so how do you make a hard change?

>> No.7011495

>>7008918
I just read Trilobites and I really enjoyed it. If you haven't read cormac mccarthy's early works I bet you'd find them interesting.

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>>7011294
Viagra

>> No.7011609 [DELETED] 

>>7010156
Fucking REKT


DUMB FAGGOT

>> No.7011611

>>7011527
CAAARLOOOS
kek

>> No.7011621
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>>7007436
The Brothers K
Crying of Lot 49
Moby Dick
Gravity's Rainbow
Notes From Underground

>> No.7011683

>>7011611
>>7011609
>>7011527
/lit/ - Shitposting

>> No.7011685 [DELETED] 

>>7011683

>>>/rebbit/

>> No.7011693

>>7007456
Lmao

>> No.7011703

The Dead Father
Blood Meridian
Dhalgren
The Recognitions
Stoner

>> No.7011715

Petersburg - Bely
Sons and Lovers - Lawrence
Mason & Dixon - Pynchon
Paradise Lost - Milton
The Aeneid - u kno

Honorable mentions:
I, Claudius - Graves
Hamlet - Bloom
Death of Ivan Ilych - Tolstoy
60 Stories - Barthelme
10th of December - Saunders

>> No.7011719

Catch 22
The Metamorphosis
Atomised
Family Happiness
Post Office

>> No.7011787

>>7007436
the stranger
slaughter-house 5
the Odyssey
Solaris
Notes from the Underground

feels like i'm confessing my plabness

>> No.7012288

Jr
The Sound and the Fury
Blood Meridian
Lolita
Dubliners

>> No.7012304

>>7007443

No Longer Human was not that great.

>> No.7012499

The Fountainhead (not joking)
Crime and Punishment
The Firm (Grisham)
Animal Farm
Dream of a Ridiculous Man

Honorable Mention: [Spoiler] Winnie the Pooh[/Spoiler]

>> No.7012503

>>7012304
>this is my favourite book
>no it isn't

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At-Swim-Two-Birds by Flann O'Brien
Le Chants de Maldoror by the Comte de Lautréamont
Invitation to a Beheading by Vladimir Nabokov
Heart of a Dog by Mikhail Bulgakov
Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino

>> No.7013074

>>7012499
You've got your own taste, I'll give you that.

>> No.7013157

>>7011115

I guess Renard just has a kind of sublime way of writing, I like the idea of sketch type stories describing banal shit too.

>>7011495

I don't know which works are his early ones but I haven't read much McCarthy, thanks though. Pancake is dank, glad you liked him too, I don't think I ever see him mentioned on here really.

>> No.7013167

Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics by Immanuel Kant

Anthropology From A Pragmatic Point of View by Immanuel Kant

For A Critique of the Political Economy of the Sign by Jean Baudrillard

Shoplifting From American Apparel by Tao Lin

On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason by Arthur Schopenhauer

>> No.7013176

>>7012503
Kek

>> No.7013216

The Count of Monte Cristo, Alexandre Dumas
Lolita, Vladimir Nabokov
I'm Not Scared, Nikolo Amaniti
Catcher in Rye, J. D. Salinger
Night Watch, Sergei Lukyanenko

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The Sun Also Rises
Moby-Dick
2666
Confessions of a Mask
My Struggle (1)

>> No.7013686

>>7013157
suttree and outer dark specifically for mccarthy

>> No.7014689

>>7007436

>The setting sun - Osamu Dazai
>Ask the dust - John Fante
>Steps - Jerzy Kosinski
>The Trial - Franz Kafka
>Stories of love, madness & death - Horacio Quiroga

>> No.7014804

>>7007436
Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus,
Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby,
Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird,
Turgenev's Fathers & Sons,
Voltaire's Candide.

>> No.7014808

>>7007540
>Myth of Sisyphus
My all time favourite! Currently writing my thesis on that actually!

>> No.7014829

>>7013157
>Pancake is dank, glad you liked him too, I don't think I ever see him mentioned on here really.

You probably will soon. It seems that he's in line for a revival, like John Williams a couple of years ago. Although he must have at least one other reader on /lit/, because I first heard of him here in like 2012 or something.

>> No.7014837

>>7014808
What are you writing about it? It seemed rather insubstantial to me so I'm curious.

>> No.7014886

>>7014837
No no no, I thought so too until I realised some key concepts. He writes very 'french' is you know what I mean, very rhetorically and messy and and and.

I'm trying to find an answer to the same question he asked, namely if suicide is the answer to an inherent problem of existence, but I approach it on the back of a different problem: he realised life was de facto absurd, I realise life is de facto hypocritical.

He finds that life is absurd because living things must know the world, but the world is not fully knowable -- a paradox he calls absurdity. And he concludes that killing oneself does not solve the paradox, as it takes away one of the terms that create it: Absurdity is not in man, and it is not in the world; it is in the relation between them. Therefore, taking one of them out of the equation is not a solution, but an evasion of the problem -- a move he considers inherently flawed.

So suicide is not an option, which leaves us with hope or revolt. Hope is the faith that through distraction we can live another day away from facing the true nature of the world, until one day we find a solution. Religion, among many options, is a way of hoping.

This is evading the problem as well, therefore out of the question.

Hence the revolt: it is not a choice, it is a condition. Living, he concludes, *IS* being in revolt. And this revolt must be grasped and lived to the fullest, by means of passion and freedom.

>enough about Camus.

I however recognise a different problem: the inherent contradictory nature of reason. I think all knowing is fundamentally reasonable, in that it takes asserting things in the world in order to 'assimilate' them into your idea of it. Knowing something based on nothing is not knowing, but empty speech.

But reason is infinite: I can give an infinite number of opposing propositions (no matter how preposterous) to any belief, and a truly rational person would have the duty to inspect each one to the bitter end. I believe that reason dictates the duty to inspect beliefs in order to erase contradicting beliefs.

Obviously this is impossible: we'd be lost in infinite thought at every second of the day. So we necessarily abort our thinking and just accept something as true once we've inspected it enough. No one takes apart a clock before telling the time.

hence hypocrisy being an inherent property of conscious life, and in turn a lead to the question of whether or not suicide is the solution to this problem.

Sorry for the essay, haha.

>> No.7014987

>>7014886
Sounds interesting, anon. By the way, how do you feel that Mersault relates to Camus's theory of the absurd?

>> No.7015014

>>7007517
alice walker maybe

>> No.7015021

Kobo Abe - Woman in the Dunes
Flannery O'Connor - The Collected Stories
Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse Five
Andrei Platonov - The Foundation Pit
Unica Zurn - The Dark Spring

>> No.7015045

Siddhartha
Shantaram
Stoner
Steppenwolf
A Clockwork Orange

I am young, dumb, and haven't read much. Judge me.

>> No.7015047

>>7007436
who is that semen demon?

>> No.7015097

>>7014987
Haven't heard of it, honestly. Can you tell me more about it?

>> No.7015107

The Dream Life of Sukhanov
Phenomenology of Spirit
Das Kapital
History and Class Consciousness
The German Ideology

>> No.7015115

The man without qualities
In search of time lost
The moon and the bonfires
Les miserables
Infinite jest

>> No.7015119

Nostromo
Go Down, Moses
Street of Crocodiles
Invisible Man
The Fifth Child

>> No.7015121

>>7015097
Sorry, I meant Meursault (as in, the character from The Stranger). Basically, what do you think Camus was trying to do with The Stranger. I was just interested because you appear to have put a lot more thought into Camus's work than I have.

>> No.7015202

The Mysteries of Udolpho
Why Geography Matters
The Book and the Sword
Neuromancer
The Analects of Confucius

>> No.7015424

>>7013167
>Jean Baudrillard
Just kill yourself already.

>> No.7015468

>>7015045
ur dumb

>> No.7015521

>>7015121
Sorry for my absence, I had to eat.

No I haven't read the stranger yet, and funnily enough, I was planning on reading l'nausée first, since Camus mentions it in TMoS.

And yes, I have put thought into it, since my thesis is about the book, haha.

But perhaps I might read the Stranger first now. I'm interested.

Cheers!

>> No.7016114

>>7007976
is it better or worse than London Orbital?

I started reading London Orbital and i was enjoying it a bit but i just lost interest like a quarter of the way in

>> No.7016151

>>7010156

if there's no way to be the best at literature, why are you so annoyed by other people's favorite books?

>> No.7016157

>>7008123

Gravity's Rainbow isnt that much more difficult than V, I found V to be pretty challenging in some parts. None of Pynchons work is ever going to feel "easy" anyways.

>> No.7016228

>>7016157
crying of lot 49 was easy

>> No.7016307

The Legend of Ages - Hugo
The Metamorphosis - Kafka
Horace - Corneille
Small Lives - Michon
Anna Karenina - Tolstoy

>>7008789
>Jacques le fataliste (Diderot)
Is it good? I hesitated to read it

>> No.7016333

Grapes of Wrath
Moby Dick
Ulysses
Macbeth
KJV Bible

>> No.7016337

>>7016157
Inherent Vice was pretty easy. Gravity's Rainbow was much more complex and challenging than V.

>> No.7016403

>>7007543
nice bate

>> No.7016431

>>7007892
The least pleb answer so far

>> No.7017827

>>7014808
but /lit/ told me that it's entry level pleb tier french shit!

>> No.7017857

>>7007803
>lefties calling 'le str8 white male' adolescent for being right

lol

>> No.7017867

The Haunted Mesa
Jurassic Park
The Tao of Pooh
The Last Battle (CoN)
Shadow of the Wind

Yes I'm a pleb who hasn't read much besides pulp/entry level.

>> No.7017898

>>7007436
>In Cold Blood
>Dune
>Speaker For the Dead
>Halo: The Fall of Reach
>Old Man's War
Philosophy can eat my ass, science fiction is fucking fun.

>> No.7017904

>>7007436
Paradise Lost
Mason & Dixon
Stoner
Blood Meridian
One Hundred Years of Solitude

>> No.7017984

A Study in Scarlet

Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Only book and movie in the HP franchise to make me cry. during the "does it hurt to die" scene.

The Titans Curse

Dearly Devoted Dexter

Portrait of a Killer

>> No.7018020

Man in the High Castle
Roadside Picnic
Alamut
Gulistan
Don Quixote

>> No.7018023

The Recognitions
A Naked Singularity
The Wind-Up Bird Chronicles
Cannery Row
The Hour of the Star

>> No.7018052

>>7007436
Aliens for Breakfast
Animporphs: The Invasion
Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace: The Novelization of the Original Motion Picture
Young Bond: By Royal Command
and of course, James and the Giant Peach

>> No.7018055

>>7007436

The Divine Comedy
The Stand
House of Leaves
Paradise Lost
Hollywood (Bukowski)

>> No.7018194

>>7018052
You get me.

>> No.7018231

>>7007456
this post made my day

what a poser faggot

>> No.7018323

Cannery Row
Surely You're joking mr Feynman
Foundation
To Kill a Mocking Bird
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep

These probably arent my favorite books, but are most representative of unrefined taste

>> No.7018342

>>7018052
>James and the Giant Peach
TRIGGGGGGEERRRSEDD

>> No.7018346

>>7007436
Flowers for Algernon
Hocus Pocus
My Name is Asher Lev
Frankenstein
Flatland

>> No.7018350

>>7018323
Surely you're joking is a riot even if your taste is unrefined

>> No.7018477

>>7008014
>Gravity's Rainbow
I think Murakami is overrated. Some of his short stories are good, but always at the end he fails to deliver.

>> No.7018491

>>7007436
In no order:
The trial by Franz Kafka
Narcisse and Goldmund by Herman Hesse
High rise by JG Ballard
Lolita by Nabokov
Asylum by Patrick McGrath

>> No.7018757

Cormac McCarthy- Blood Meridian
Albert Camus- The Myth of Sisyphus
Soren Kierkegaard- Either/Or
Thomas Pynchon- V.
The Bible (King James)

>> No.7018768

Libra, don delillo
To the lighthouse- Virginia Woolf
Moby dick- Herman Melville
Underworld- don delillo
Blood meridian- cormac McCarthy

>> No.7018785

Ulysses
The Songs of Maldoror
The Book of Disquiet
Illuminations (Rimbaud)
Ficciones

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Yo faggots,
I tried to make a small list with the most named

>gravitys rainbow
15
>infinite jest
12
>Lolita
8
>One hundred years of solitude
7
>ulysses
7
>blood meridan
7
>moby dick
6
>crying of lot 49
5
>brothers karamazov
5
>stoner
5
>bible
5
>the trial
5

>> No.7018861

>>7018857
* IJ = 9

>> No.7018863

>>7018857
>none of mine on list
Feels good

>> No.7019103

>>7018863
enlighten us brother

>> No.7019113

>>7019103
finnegans wake
finnegans wake
finnegans wake
finnegans wake
finnegans wake

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>>7019113

>> No.7019873

Portrait of the Artist as A Young Man
Blood Meridian
100 Years of Solitude
A Separate Peace
Post Office

>> No.7019924

The Man Without Qualities
You Bright and Risen Angels
Lanark
The Red and the Black
Ulysses (obligatory)

>> No.7019928

straight up

JR
Demian
Gravity's Rainbow
Ficciones
To The Lighthouse

>> No.7019961

Atlas Shrugged (Story more than her philosophy)

Frankenstein

Collected works of H.P. Lovecraft

The Windup Girl

Dune


>Not trying to impress randoms on a cambodin architectural forum.

>> No.7020023

Norton Anthology of Poetry (kind of a cheat but it changed my life.)
Philosophical Investigations
The Great Gatsby
Pnin
The Collected Stories of Chekhov

>>7007550
mai Pninigga

>> No.7020661

Fahrenheit 451
A Clockwork Orange
Junkie
Lolita
The Great Gatsby

>> No.7020677
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Slaughterhouse-Five
Watchmen
Lord of The Rings

>> No.7020732

The interrogation, Le clezio
The soul of a new machine, Kidder
Ovid's metamorphoses
IJ
The Long way, Moitessier

check the not very known out, worth it.

>> No.7020900

>>7007436
Lazarillo de Tormes
Don Quijote de la Mancha
Le Petite Prince
David Copperfield
The Loser - Thomas Bernhard
Sphere - Michael Crichton
The Three Musketeers
Solaris
The Hobbit

>> No.7020907

>>7007436

Tropic of Cancer
On the Road
The Outlaw Bible of American Poetry
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
2666

>> No.7020928

>>7007456
>even this is too subtle for /lit/
Well kekked

>> No.7020968

>>7007436
The Basic Kafka
The Kingdom Of God Is Within You
Romance of the Three Kingdoms
Meditations
The Rubaiyat

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Blood Meridian
Thus Spake Zarathustra
Finnegans Wake
Lolita
and Gravity's Rainbow (even though it flew way over my head)

>> No.7021062

Dante's Commedia;
The Complete Works of William Shakespeare;
Os Lusíadas;
El Aleph;
The Cantos, by Ezra Pound.

>> No.7021069

>>7015021
You have an interesting taste for /lit/. Which of those other authors is most like Flannery O'Connor? Was a big fan of The Violent Bear it Away and I'm looking for more authors like her

>> No.7021452

>>7007436
tom sawyer
journey to the west
the hobbit
the odyssey
dune

>> No.7021963

>>7007813
nice

>> No.7022071

>Huckleberry Finn
>20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
>White Fang
>Blindsight
>Dune

Read most as a child and they've withstood everything else since then. Dont mind if you say I have shit taste I just honestly enjoyed these the most.

>> No.7022079

Miles Davis autobiography
Seven Pillars of Wisdom
Ethics
Shogun
Pride and Prejudice

>> No.7022258

>>7022079
Infinite Jest
The Violent Bear it Away
The Sound and the Fury
War and Peace/Anna Karenina (can't decide)
Hunnid Years of Solitude

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Fellowship of the Ring
Jurassic Park
Holes
Treasure Island
Sphere

I need to read more. On Red Badge of Courage right now, seems promising, despite the narrative being very busy. Procrastinating on 1984 and Silmarillion, as well.

>> No.7023229

>>7017984
is this bait, if not are you 15

>> No.7023261

In descending order of quality:

>The Odyssey
>Plutarch's Lives of the Noble Grecians & Romans
>King James's Bible
>Macbeth
>Sentimental Education

>> No.7023287

A la recherche du temps perdue
Voyage au but de la nuit
Les illuminations
Percy Shelley's complete poems
Alcools
Idylls of the king

>> No.7023318

>>7007578
Which translation(s) of AK have you read? Thinking about rereading it, but I wanna try something new (I've read Garnett's and P&V's translations).

Also, glad to see people still reading Machado de Assis.

>> No.7023407

>>7023287
>perdue
>e

seems legit

>> No.7023412

>>7023287
>perdue
At least you tried and did not copy it from Wiki. 6/10