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Because Marxism consists primarily of dogmatic insistence on the accuracy of a couple theories.

>>7002491
>keynes and marx
>not literature

>>7002459
New shitty tripfag is probably the shittiest tripfag I've seen on here in several years. The stupidity of the new tripfag is actually causing Butterfly Bitch's stock to go up in my mind, which I didn't think was possible.

>>7002459
Because it was hijacked and turned into the shit we have now

>>7002525
Nice Marxist argument, bro

>>7002527
>shit
>technology everywhere
>better medical technology than ever
>higher lifespans than ever
>fewer and fewer people are hungry every day
remind me again why capitalism sucks so much?

>>7002530
I think it's more of the /lit/ perspective. Maybe he doesn't want to see a thread about an economist which will descend into –well, one of those threads.

So AZ, are you going to defend Keynesianism or is this just a pol-bomb?

>>7002543
its the easiest economic theory to defend because it's also the best

>>7002530
Nice /lit thread, bro.

>lit is the "smart" board
>they fall for this faggots weak /pol/ tier obvious b8 every time.
inb4 300 replies. also check my dubs.

>>7002543
Oh thank goodness you're here; now we can raze the thread with napalm and call it a day.

>>7002536
Okay. The lifespan increases are only for those who can afford the new medical technology.
True deaths are down, but resources are running thin and the fossil fuel fatcats aren't spending anything on renewables. They may someday, but it'll be too late. The system did this.

Doctors want to heal, inventors want to invent, teachers want to teach. These things would have come regardless.

>>7002557
I don't get you quite yet. You're a Roosevelt backer, and racist?

>>7002575
>truth
>weak /pol/ tier obvious b8
keep your blindfold on, /lit/, it will make everything muc less painful

>>7002582
You write like a retarded 12 year old.

>>7002459
How are you not banned? For fuck's sake, just leave you spooked shill.

>>7002525
I'm 100% positive it's Ebolafag trying for a second go with a new identity after getting BTFO so many times.

>>7002591
nice marxist argument dood
anything legit you'd like to contribute? maybe try to prove me wrong without calling me a retard
because thats the definition of a fallacy

ITT Marxists choose to ignore how defunct their system is in blights of ignorance and telling me to gb2 /pol/ so they don't have to think of any legit response

>>7002614
Yes, you're right. Better go somewhere else where they'll appreciate you.

>>7002622
whats the fun then if everyone agrees with you

>>7002578
I should get back to my book. :\

>>7002606
Ah, interesting theory.

>>7002614
Make AZ a Larouche fanatic.

>>7002536
You've got to be kidding me. All of that is for very few selected people at the expense of much greater misery, to people, to the environment, to human relations and so on. Capitalism is the absolute worst system we ever had, it only builds walls.

>>6447794

>>7002629
yeah, if youre a dipshit retard who doesn't feel like working to be able to eat
>implying a richer world economy doesn't mean better living conditions for all who live in it

STOP REPLYING TO HIM
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>>7002607
I didn't say anything about Marxism, I just pointed out that you write poorly. Maybe go work on your reading comprehension.

>>7002652
>I write poorly
>calls me a 12 year old retard as some form of insult
Enlighten me on the English language please senpai?

>>7002536
40% of the food we produce go to waste bro

>>7002660
you're right, lets just ship all of the hot dogs we don't eat to Africa, that will solve all of their problems

>>7002660
And a good portion of the 60% is no doubt eaten in overindulgence (a form of waste, I'd say).

>>7002650
>implying a richer world economy doesn't mean better living conditions for all who live in it
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm implying. Just like "me and you having 10 dollars" may suck if I get 9 and you get 1 and this is not just an exception to capitalism, it is the rule, is easier for the rich to get richer and the poor to stay poor, isn't this obvious?

>doesn't feel like working
I'm sure that's the source of all the misery right? I'm just more lazy than Donald Trump. Europeans like to work more than Africans. Retarded.

>>7002459
Keynes is definitely one of the most successful economic theorists, but the U.S has taken his theories to an extreme while also preventing other countries from doing the same. The U.S has repeatedly fucked over everyone else to make sure that we can keep spending massive amounts of money on both keeping our economy growing (and keeping their economies from catching up), and so that we can keep making a gargantuan military expenditure that serves no purpose but to make sure the U.S maintains the position of top dog.

>>7002675
You're forgetting the fact that the defintion of being "poor" becomes better and better as the economy as a whole increases. 100 years ago, poor people had nothing. Now, the most of them (at least in America/Europe) have plenty of money to eat, survive, most of them have access to cell phones and internet, etc. So they might be "poor" by our definition but a poor person now and a poor person 100 years ago have very different qualities of life

>>7002695
Oh you meant "poor" people in the developed world. Not the people who have nothing but some land with an oilfield leaking into it

>>7002688
Still means that Keynes is the most succesful economic theorist, because his theories work. And they aren't holding anyone back, the wealth of any country participating in the foreign exchange has increased since AmericaGod has stepped in

Can't speak for Dindu countries though, because I'm not sure they know how to count. We should just make them slaves and give them food in exchange for their labor. (Everybody wins)

>>7002695
>You're forgetting the fact that the defintion of being "poor" becomes better and better as the economy as a whole increases.
Not since the 70s, when real income decoupled from economic productivity; pic related.

>>7002707
You're talking about Dindu countries, no? What do you suggest, we take up the white man's burden again?

>>7002715
The extra productivity is due to available technology, not super extra hard work on count of the poorfags. And even then, it has slowly increased.

>>7002695
Actually, it gets worse as the years go by anon

hey guys sorry for my faggoty shitposting I am just an insecure loser who has nothing better to do than spew shit I read on /pol/ and debate on the internet all day.

I've never actually read a book tbh and I wait until the minute my ban expires before posting politics thread after thread on this board. you guys can stop feeding my ego I've decided to grow up and become a person of value.

>>7002734
What's your source? Can you link me to the exact tumblr blog?

>Keynes, the man that unironically suggested the government should bury gold in the forest so poor people have something to do during recession

fucking kekl.

>>7002741
not shit I read on /pol/, shit I learned in an actual economics class

>>7002695
Being poor depends on what you're poor off. Hunter-gatherers in Africa were never poor, they had their food, they travelled, they had their families, etc. Then they are expelled from their land, they can't hunt, their families disrupted and suddenly they are in some slum with an old tv set, working all day at a cocoa plantation to get a cent and you're here calling that tv set progress.

>>7002719
I suggest we stop actively fucking them by stonewalling any of there efforts to actually modernize their countries beyond building better resource extraction and manufacturing facilities. You realize that one of the only countries in the world that doesn't rely on the goodwill of U.S industrialists and politicians is fucking North Korea? The only way poor countries to go from being in the perpetual grasp of the U.S, or as we call it euphemistically "developing", is to do what the U.S did and fucking kick out everyone who wants to mess with us and then put up trade barriers to protect our farms and industry. However the U.S, and by extension the rest of the developed world, opposes most governments that seek to actually reform either by cutting off aid or bombing them.

>>7002753
So it's capitalisms fault they've been too stupid to make a single economic advance in the past 4000 years?

>>7002752
I didn't know middle school had econ classes.

I'm not a marxist btw but your shitposting lowers the level of discourse on this whole board.

>>7002727
>The extra productivity is due to available technology, not super extra hard work on count of the poorfags.
But of course CEOs on the other hand are working about 10 times more now than 50 years ago, right?

>>7002688
This isn't true. Republican shut down of government. All the tea party muh debt shit.

If we could institute an ngdp target through either an eitc or basic income we'd kick so much ass.

>>7002766
>Implying wages are set by how hard you work and not supply and demand.

>>7002759
No one is stopping them from doing anything, the entire world is based on a free market now and if you aren't advanced enough to adapt, then of course your countries going to be poor forever.

>>7002791
>not reading the post being replied to, which made this implication to begin with ("hurr the poor aren't working harder, so why should they be paid more?")

>>7002782
>Muh debt shit
The U.S is allowed to spend as much money as it wants and expects other nations to curb their own spending because of it. Doesn't it seem obvious that this could not ever be sustained?

>>7002799
>the entire world is based on a free market now
This isn't true though since the U.S calls all the shots. The countries that aren't "advanced enough" are locked into a kleptocracy that makes sure nothing produced in the country does to the people producing it, and we fund the kleptocracies. If we really did want a free market world we would cut off all aid to countries that failed to develop self-sufficiency and then quell our squeamishness when we see the French Revolution level carnage at work when oppressed people are suddenly placed on a level playing field with their oppressors.

>>7002760
They had the perfect economy for 4000 years.

>>7002581
>implying economic competition didn't accelerate the rate of scientific advances

>>7002873
The US can literally spend as much as it wants. We own the currency, no other nation needs to so shit.

>>7002897
>Implying we needed to accelerate the birthrate creating more workers to generate more imaginary wealth, eating up our finite resources, bringing about an ecological disaster not seen since the dinosaurs extinction event.

I don't mind the industrial revolution, but the bougies really ought to let go of the shiny metal and let the revolution come to it's completion.

>>7002459
Reported. You need to stop posting so much off-topic content on the board.

>>7002900
Other nations are undergoing austerity measures and selling off their own assets to the U.S who is buying those very assets with the money that they loaned out. The U.S is robbing other countries and they don't do anything about it. They spending a great deal of their resources on things that don't benefit them in the slightest. Eventually they're either going to be faced with either being ground down to nothing or having to draw the line