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Not sure what I'm supposed to call this, but I love when the author stops talking about his main subject (the narrative) and starts to ramble. Perhaps I could call it a "reverie".

I remember reading Milan Kundera's "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" when I was younger and I really enjoyed the parts where the story would just stop and the narrator would start talking about some correlated subject. In that particular book he starts to speak about "Kitsch". If I remember correctly Hesse does the same in "Steppenwolf"

Either way, I don't know how I should call this but I would like to read books where authors do it. Any recommendations?

>> No.6961081
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6961081

This is exactly what you're looking for, have fun OP.

>> No.6961088

>>6961081
Nice, thanks. Whats best is that I think I have this book laying around here at my place

>> No.6961090

>>6961066
I think you'd really like Karl Ove Knausgård and his My Struggle books, OP.

I also think the best part about those books is when he goes on a long essay-ish tangent on something unrelated.

>> No.6961097

Saramago did it all the time. He'd just stop telling the story for a while and start talking to the reader, kind of like when your grandfather is telling you a story and stops to make a short remark about the weather or something.

>> No.6961118

Usually hate that, often badly done, but double the recommendation on this >>6961081

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6961130

>>6961066
This is exactly why some people hate David Foster Wallace. He goes on and on into great detail about all sorts of shit not directly related to the plot.

American psycho by Ellis does this as well, there's an entire lengthy chapter on Whitney Houston's new album

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>>6961130

>> No.6961201

>>6961183
The photoshop is strong with this one

>> No.6961215

Twain often does something similar. In "How to Tell a Story" he outlines what he calls the "humorous" story, which is one told in a rambling manner, diverting from the main subject. Stay away from the biggies like Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer. His short stories are generally pretty good about it, though it has been quite some time and I cannot think of a good one off of the top of my head. The most famous example is in Roughing It, with the story of the grandfather's old ram.

>> No.6961233

>>6961066
Les Miserables

>> No.6961239

Hugo does this in the hunchback of Notre dame. He talks a lot about medieval architecture in Paris, which I think is cool but many others think is boring.

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6961381

Thanks so much everyone. You are all great. I'll look into all of your recommendations. Thanks again.

>> No.6961441

>>6961090
I was going to say. Knausgaard is excellent at this.
In the sixth book he really goes for it, moving completely away from his main subject for 600 pages.

Umberto Eco does this a bit as well. Usually very interesting subjects.

>> No.6961454

moby dick
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>> No.6961517

>>6961441
witch umberto eco books does he does this better?

>> No.6961521

>>6961066

I want to know the name of this as well, OP.


nice satan dubs.

>> No.6961536

>>6961454
honestly there's probably more words of rambling than words dedicated to the actual plot in moby dick

at least I will always know the proper procedure for butchering a whale and rendering it

>> No.6961583

I am a cat, by Soseki.

>> No.6961597

>>6961066
>>6961521
It's called a digression. How has no one in this thread said this yet?

>> No.6961616

>>6961597
parekbasis in Greek, egressio, digressio and excursion in Latin

>> No.6961625

>>6961597
We kind of digressed into a discussion of books with this style of writing, instead of talking about the name I guess.

>> No.6961632

>>6961616
Yeah see, there we go.

>>6961441
Also this: gonna jump on the Knausgard recommendation train.

>> No.6961648

>>6961632
not OP but this thread is really making me interested in this Knausgaard. Can anyone talk about how he digresses when writing? What does he discuss, etc.

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6961657

Nymphomaniac (the Movie) does this a lot.

>> No.6961888

Quality thread. Bump

>> No.6961905

>>6961130
I guess there is a difference in rambling about ideas as in an essay and ramblin out facts as in a wikipedia article.

>> No.6962006

>>6961648
I'm part way through his first book right now.

The interesting thing about Knausgaard isn't that the events which happen in his writing are really that interesting, but rather he is exceptional at articulating the everyday thoughts and ideas which attend life—those things you think about you're alone; about aging, falling to love, family. In terms of his 'digressions,' I don't tend to think of them as exactly that. The book doesn't have chapters, and it's about his life for the most part, so if he is digressing then it's merely because life itself doesn't necessarily follow a linear plot, and his books are, speaking broadly, about life.

>> No.6962022

Don. Fucking. Juan.

Byron is the funniest narrator ever to have appeared in literature.

>> No.6962120

>>6962006
Pretty neat. Thanks for responding

>> No.6962154

>>6961066
Every "classic" book ever?