/lit/ - Literature

>>6940091
i have u retaard

>Why haven't you read The Bible?
Its a really interesting book, but the whole endless naming X begat Y and lived to Z all of his years and who begat etc. really kills it for me.
Its the same reason I've been unable to read the Sagas.

I'm busy rereading Infinite Jest. Y'know, a work that actually touches on the deepest problems of (post)modern life, unlike that archaic garbage you claim to be classic.

>>6940091
>what books of the bible should I read?
>what ancient greek and roman texts should I read?
>what Shakespeare, Milton and Dante should I read?
>inb4 all of them. Give me several of each and I will read them to stop being such a stupid shit.

>>6940091
>Why haven't you read The Bible?
I have. Overrated.
>Why haven't you read the Ancient Greeks and Romans?
Reading and familiarizing myself with much of it. Very nice.
>Why haven't you read Shakespeare and Milton and Dante?
Read some Shakes, prefer to watch it performed. Read about Dante, but since I don't know Italian and it really sounds like shit, I'm'a take a pass
>Why are you such a stupid shit?
One can never know everything. I do my best.

>>6940091
the only reason to read the bible is to understand biblical allusions found in later works of literature, which can be achieved by reading the wikipedia page of the bible.

it offers little in terms of literary value except for a few certain books.

>>6940091
nah

>>6940091
Why are you shitposting on /lit/ rather than actually reading texts beyond those anyone who has taken literature classes in college/university has read?

>>6940104
>Unironically calling Dante, Milton, Shakespeare, and all of western tradition "archaic garbage"

>>6940105
Book of Job
Book of Revelation
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus

Rest can be passed over

Homer, Sappho, Sophocles, Aeschylus, Euripides, Virgil, Ovid

As much Shakespeare as possible, Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained, The Divine Comedy

>>6940118
So what? The allusions are crucial

Also the bible has some great passages of writing and stories

>>6940143
No Ecclesiastes?

>>6940118
Literally telling people to read the Wikipedia summary instead of reading the book.

Why are you tripping you fucking imbecile?

>>6940114
Shakespeare's plays are meant to be read

>>6940243
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>>6940260
The language of Shakespeare is infinitely richer than the structure of his plays as plays.

>>6940149
my post said nothing contradictory to your own

>>6940158
>Literally telling people to read the Wikipedia summary instead of reading the book.
in the bible's case, a wikipedia summary is a much better use of one's time due to the lack of literary value in 90% of the bible.
>Why are you tripping you fucking imbecile?
pic related
tripfriends on /lit/ made this board better

>>6940114
>it really sounds like shit

The Divine Comedy is one of the masterpieces of world literature.

>>6940143
For Milton, Lycidas and Samson Agonistes are just as essential.

>>6940265
To hear it, to see it performed!
I've seen several good versions of some of my favourites, luckily. That Coriolanus film was okay, but definitely lacking.

And Kurosawa's interpretation of Lear was excellent, but I'm sure you don't care.

>>6940143
thanks. Getting started tonight.

>>6940114
>Dante
>shit

end yourself tbh

>>6940329
It's quite a feat for epic poems, I'll give it that, but the plot is hokey and self serving. It has not aged well.

>>6940347
jesus christ how can I filter you
please please please stop talking about poetry you're triggering me

Like hearing poetry recited, seeing performances of Shakespeare is illuminating, but without having it on the page you miss so much of the sense.

>>6940340
Read the plays.

>>6940347
humans have always been superstitious, you can't dismiss great culture simply because you don't believe in it. Its been long enough that we can talk about greek myths without calling the plots hokey so why not the christian myths?

>>6940352
The world is big enough for the two of us, I swear.
You just have to accept the fact there are people who don't like some of the things you like.
I know I know. Breath anon, breath. It'll be alright

>>6940394
I have read some. But a good performance is best.

>>6940412
True enough. I do still consume plenty of Christian materials, but after reading about the details of Dante's revenge, I have decided against reading any of it. He is a jerk. Yes, I know, Hesiod was also a jerk. His poem was shorter.

>>6940091
>Why haven't you read The Bible?
I have.
>Why haven't you read the Ancient Greeks and Romans?
Working through the Illiad now.
>Why haven't you read Shakespeare and Milton and Dante?
Already read some Shakespeare in high school and I'm planning on reading more someday.
After Homer, Milton is next. I need a good translation though.

>>6940702
>translation of Milton

>>6940702
>Milton is next. I need a good translation though.
Go with the original :^)

nobody else has, why should I? so I can pretend I'm better than them? I won't be. so I'll become a more rounded person? I won't. because the books have aesthetic value in and of themselves? maybe for other people, not for me. no use pretending otherwise

>>6940091
Why should I have to read Shakespeare and Milton if English isn't my native tongue? What about Dante? Where is the point? There are hundreds of more important authors besides Dante. What about Rousseau? Kant? Voltaire? Hume? Diderot? Why Dante and not Cervantes? Dumas? Balzac? Where are Descartes? Spinoza? Erasmus? Did you read all of them or are you “such a stupid shit”?

>>6940852
>>6940933

plebs smh

>>6940933
>complains that nobody talks about philosophy on a literature thread
kek, why not rename this board /phil/ then?

>>6940143

>Exodus but not Deuteronomy

Fucken what?

>>6940944
Dumas, Cervantes or Balzac are philosophy?
What is the Bible, then? A monument of literature and style?

Stop excusing your ineptitude.

>>6940971
why do you mention Kant and Hume, autismo?

do you recomend final fantasy to someone looking for movies suggestions too?

>>6940971
tbf Balzac has some actual purely philosophical works. Dumas and Cervantes, though...

>>6940091
I have x3.
I'm not.
Why haven't made apple jelly?

>>6940091
>Why haven't you read The Bible?

Because:

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>>6940091
I have. All of them. And much, much more. More than you, in fact.

>>6940091
Does Josephus count as "the Romans"?
I'm sure he'd like to think so.

>>6940114
>haven't read the complete works of Shakespeare

Alright, when do we rise up and lynch butterfly?

>>6941696
read more than you tbh

>>6941996
Read more than you and him combined tbqf

>>6940091
why do you post this once a week? why should i fucking care?

>>6940138
exactly, complaining that everyone didn't graduate with a lit major from a jesuit university is like complaining that people don't know what a Nando's is

>>6942051
>he doesn't care what /lit/ thinks about him
What a plebeian, right guys? I bet he reads genre fiction and doesn't claim to be a depressed alcoholic

>>6940933
Dante is better than all of them.

>>6940104
idk why dwell on insurmountable problems? isn't it a waste of time?

I'm reading the Ancient Greeks right now.

Rude.

>>6940104
but the greeks show you hot to live. instead of reading shit by a whiney lil middlebrow bitch who was so helpless in life that he offed himself, maybe you should read the greeks and learn to be a man faggot

>>6940344
Don't listen to that Anon. You can't just ignore all of the prophets, all of the poetry books, and for Christ's sake, the Gospels too.

I'll do it later

>>6940091
Argumentum ad hominem.

>>6941992
I've read more than many people, but again, I prefer to see a play.
And I have always been more of a nonfiction sort. So go lynch yourself.

read the Torah and got tired of it. I should read a Gospel and call it a day. Bible has really bad writing.

>>6940347
Every post by this winged creature gives me a sudden urge to convert to christianity