/lit/ - Literature

This one

>>6932011
Any good? What's it about?

>>6932002
The Other Bible: Jewish Pseudepigrapha, Christian Apocrypha, Gnostic Scriptures,

>>6932494
oOOOOh. How big is THAT fucker?

>>6932498
Around 750 pages, and very worth grabbing used on amazon for $7. I've used it a lot.

>>6932505
>Gnostic Scriptures
Are these all in the Nag Hammadi library too?
>750
How small must that print be?

>>6932024

On the influences on Judaism mostly. It mostly explains the religious influences on the Bible, particularly the paganism from the Levant and Egypt

>>6932517
Haven't cross-checked. I have both. But the print's quite readable. It's a great selection and well worth it even just for the Book of Enoch stuff.

>>6932519
Does it go chapter-by-chapter with the bible or is it a standalone book ?
>>6932530
thanks for the tip bro

>>6932537

Mostly stand alone. It deals mostly with Egypt, Ugarit, Moses and how they influenced the Yahwist doctrine from which the Bible emerged. It's pretty interesting though as a work to explain that most of the Bible (particularly the early chapters of the Bible, when the interaction with God tends to be very direct, similar to how the pagans interacted with their gods) didn't come out of a void, but has a very interesting cultural background from which it emerged.

>>6932494
looks interesting I'll have to check it out.


>>6932002
St. Augustine's City of God

I don't read the hallucinations of bloodthirsty desert savages, thanks.

>>6932573
You forgot to tip your fedora, good sir.

>>6932573
[fedoras internally]
What is it like being constantly angry and seeing the worst in everyone.

>>6932583
>>6932592
Stay triggered, Christfags. Your shitty fairytale book is about an evil impotent demon "helping" evil people do evil things--i.e. crazy desert tribes killing each other because they had scurvy and were prone to fits of rage.

>thread full of civil discussion and book recommendations
>then this braindead post>>6932573
>le christposters are shitting up the board
Top kek

>>6932606
You seem to be quite angry there friend.

Proverbs 29:11 A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control.

You my friend are a fool

>>6932002
>ITT: Middle-Eastern religion
I prefer Western philosophy, thanks but no thanks, OP.

>>6932647
I'm glad you look up what to think like some kind of simple robot. It's cute. Would you pass a Turing test?

>>6932662
You seem to be quite enlightened friend, would you mind explaining to me the Problem of induction? I have trouble understanding it. Here is another verse in exchange.

Proverbs 14:29 A patient man has great understanding, but a quick-tempered man displays folly.

>>6932686
>reads the bible instead of the writings of Aurelius
top arab

>>6932562
That sounds like fun, I'll have to check it out. The first few chapters of Sex and Punishment do something similar, discussing the sex-laws of Leviticus with some contemporary discourse about it. You ought to give that a look too.

>>6932606
Whether you believe the good book's true or not, you can't really deny the historical and cultural significance which the bible has had throughout the lot of humanity.
>pic related

>>6932696
>Reads the writings of a Greek instead of the bible or Tolstoy
top boyfucker

ASIMOV'S GUIDE TO THE BIBLE
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>>6932705
>The first few chapters of Sex and Punishment do something similar, discussing the sex-laws of Leviticus with some contemporary discourse about it. You ought to give that a look too.

I'll look into it. I wanted to recommend this one as well, but it's in Dutch

>>6932696
I think it is highly possible that you are a Christian and just haven't realized it yet.

>>6932718
Yeah? What's special about it?

>>6932733
Hmm.
What's it called?

>>6932717
>reads the writings of sand folk and the one writing of an old man in his "spiritual awakening" taking up christianity as he realized he'll die soon
top dumb

>>6932746
I think it is highly possible that you are a _insert religion_ and just haven't realized it yet.

>>6932002
I recommend "The Kingdom of God is within You" if you want something that is practical in its thoughts.

>>6932746
I think it's highly possible that you are a faggot and just haven't realized it yet.

>>6932747
It does a good job of putting the Bible in its historical context. It's not a theological commentary though; read the Oxford Bible Commentary if you want something like that

>>6932747

I think it's this one, I'm not sure though

>>6932748
>>6932761
Proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

>>6932573
Mao-Tse-Tung, Atheist: 78 million plus dead
Joseph Stalin, Atheist: 20 million plus dead
Adolf Hitler, Atheist: 15 million dead
Vladimir Lenin, Atheist: 5.5 million dead
Kim-Il-Sung, Atheist: 5 million dead
Pol Pot, Atheist: 2 million dead
Fidel Castro, Atheist: 1 million dead

>>6932775
So y'all faggots?

>>6932843
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/06/books/is-there-a-gay-basis-to-nietzsche-s-ideas.html
:^)

>>6932494
From an amazon review
>It should be made clear to any potential buyer that this book is composed primarily of EXCERPTS from the various texts, not the complete works. While Barnstone is a talented translator in his own right, the translations in this book are not his. Rather, they are culled from various sources, many in the public domain, such as the R.H. Charles editions of the Pseudepigrapha. While these translations are passable, they are often not based in the latest scholarship.
If you are looking for a Readers' Digest Condensed Apocrypha, this book might be worth it, but for serious study, your money would be better spent on the Charlesworth Pseudepigrapha, the Schneemelcher/Wilson New Testament Apocrypha, the Garcia Martinez Dead Seas Scrolls, and the Robinson Nag Hammadi.

Still sounds good even if only for someone's understanding of the texts.

>>6932833
Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot were not atheists. The others were and more than make up the difference.

>>6933028
Hitlers religious belief has been the subject of debate, Stalin was an atheist as he adopted the Marxist stance on religion and said himself there was no God, Pol Pot was clearly motivated to fight against religious beliefs, but this is debating semantics.

Atheists have killed more than any other belief system in the history of humanity and done so in a very short period of time. To call Christianity violent in comparison is to ignore hard evidence and historical fact.

>>6933071
>Atheists have killed more than any other belief system in the history of humanity.
Most of those were killed over an economic system. Atheism is perfectly compatible with capitalism.

>>6933091
The ideology that's most compatible with dictatorship and mass killing is communism.

>>6933118
Islam

>>6933091
>what is the mass killings of Christian communities due to dissent within those communities against an immoral government

>>6933091
also

Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao …

The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.

The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole Hell-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.

Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation!

you deny history because it doesn't suit your line of thinking, you are no better than a marxist

>>6933199
AND HE GOT DUBS

REKT

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>>6933199
Why is a CIA agent from cir. 1970 posting on 2015 5sama?

>christians conflating communism with atheism
>living up that identity politic ressentiment, playing as mere victims to justify their own sins and pathetic lot
>not realizing that even the most trumped up death toll against communism you could possibly imagine isn't even a fraction of the death toll at the foot of capitalism, nevermind christians, particularly at the beck-and-call of capitalism, yet they still use the "muh ded" argument
>believing in spooks like literal spooks and capital whilst posting on 4chan

>guy asks for additional literature to read with the Bible
>turns into a "communism/religion killed more people" shitposting fest

Can all of you dimwits fuck off please?

>>6933358
I wonder who could be behind this post?

go back to your cripple website

>>6933358
Where is your evidence for this, more than enough has been provided for the actions of atheism and communism yet you provide nothing because you have nothing.

>>6933406
We stop when the atheists stop shitting up the threads and mocking our beliefs.

>>6933409
these philistines can't even handle
/marx/.

>>6933443
>tips

Marxist Christianity is the future. Combines the best of both with none of the weaknesses.

>>6933666
Yeah, OK, Satan.

>>6933687
Still trying to find a way to squeeze a camel through the eye of a needle?

>>6933428
Look, I get that militant atheists piss you guys off. You have every right to be pissed when someone disrespectfully dismisses your deeply held beliefs. But just treat militant atheists the way us non-fedora tipping atheists treat fundamentalist Christians. As a nuisance to be ignored or laughed at, rather than engaged.

>>6933415
>more than enough has been provided for the actions of atheism and communism
Where? Not in this thread. Why don't you read a book or an article or something. Here's one: "About 21,000 people die every day of hunger or hunger-related causes, according to the United Nations. This is one person every four seconds, as you can see on this display. Sadly, it is children who die most often." Now, PAY ATTENTION, "Yet --there is plenty of food in the world for everyone.-- The problem is that hungry people are trapped in severe poverty. They lack the money to buy enough food to nourish themselves."(http://www.poverty.com/)) Emphasis mine.
21k * 365 = 7,665,000 deaths a year from capitalism. Let's be nice and say you can only attribute hunger deaths internationally for as long as capitalism has global dominance, we'll say after the Soviet collapse in 1992 (rounding up the year). That's 23 * 7,665,000 = 176,295,000. Whew lad, we just blew through communism's big death toll in a couple decades with just one fucking statistic. Whew lad. Time for a new ideology to kill yourself for eh?

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>>6933199
>than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition.
Colonialism tho.

>>6934191
Devout Christian here. I completely agree. The fedora image exists for that very reason.

>>6934426
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