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6926851 No.6926851 [Reply] [Original]

>care more about philosophy than pussy

What is happening to me?

>> No.6926853

enlightenment :)

>> No.6926855
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6926855

Why would that be a problem?

>> No.6926860

You're now 14
Congratz OP

>> No.6926861

>>6926851
>lust after girl
>she finally gives in
>reality never meets expectation
>end up disgusted
>go back to studying

>> No.6926862

well one is easily attainable while the other is not

>> No.6926863

>>6926861
hav u considered ur bad at sex

>> No.6926864

>>6926851
happened to me too once i obtained regular pussy. that said doing my homework for a long time then taking a break and socializing with my girlfriend for a few hours and then also getting to fuck her, and even then getting to read more afterwards is wonderful

>mfw, this is truly, the literary lifestyle

>> No.6926872
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6926872

Wait til you reach the point where Logic and Mathematics are becoming more insightful to you than Philosophy

>mfw there is no end to this logico-mathematical rabbit-hole

>> No.6926879

>>6926851
i've never been any other way. you are becoming less pleb, congratulations

>> No.6926881

>>6926862
tbh philosophy is harder to get than pussy for some people.

Obviously OP prefers philosophy because he likes the complex subtleties of rigorous demonstration as opposed to simple penis in vagina action.

>> No.6926885

>>6926872
yeah then you realise that the tractatus got it wrong and realise the pre-socratics (each of them) got it right

>> No.6926889

>not being asexual

top pleb

>> No.6926890

>>6926881
>tbh philosophy is harder to get than pussy for some people.
>'people'

>> No.6926891

>>6926872
Wittgenstein eventually reached a point where rigour and mathematics weren't as important to him anymore ; the Philosophische Untersuchungen are written in a very simple and comprehensible way compared to the tractatus.

>> No.6926897

It's rather repulsive to see /lit/ anons still glorify the pursuit and acquirement of pussy more than philosophy itself.
Make them choose between one or the other and I think we can weed out the plebeians.

>> No.6926899

>care more about Maoism than either

feels good

>> No.6926902

>>6926885
I was not talking about Tractatus you sphincter. The Tractatus contains little Logic; and even that Logic is not the Logic I was talking about, since it was wrestling with really elementary stuff. Logic, after all, was in its infancy at the time W wrote the Tractatus.

>> No.6926903

>>6926899
mein gott

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>>6926881
>implying any of use know what that feels like

>> No.6926913

You are finally leveling up.

>An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex.

-Huxley

>> No.6926916

>>6926902
I like how you dodged the rest of my post; you still have refuted how the presocratics *literally* got it right.

>> No.6926923

>>6926891
You clearly haven't read his work on Philosophy of Mathematics, which, as he himself said it, was more important to him in terms of contribution than his PI.

Again, just because alongside my post I posted a portrait of W doesn't mean I was talking about the Logic of W. I am talking about Logic and Maths in general.

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>>6926851
WHAT ELSE COULD IT BE?
IDEOOOLOGYYY

>> No.6926942

>>6926916
The burden of proof is on you not on me, since those are some 2000+ year old musings of stone age thinkers. Contemporary researchers that actually advance their fields don't really engage in History of Philosophy.

>> No.6926946

>>6926923
Logic and Maths have always implicitly been at the core of philosophy, hence why many philosophers were STEM people as their main occupation.

You literally can't prove anything outside of any logical framework. Even the presocratics made connexions between things by analogy and at times modus ponens.

>> No.6926950

>>6926913
Huxley's books read like self-help novels like the protestant Joel Osteen meme with occasionally interesting imagery. 'Island', his 'most important work', has less depth than most Steven King, easily. Not exaggerating or trying to be ironic.

On the whole pussy/passion debate, I really believe noone here has had sex with a member of their close family. It is so intimate and personal and loving that no work of literature even compares, a candle compared to the great power of the sun. Highly recommend. Not that philosophy/ literature aren't one of the great joys of life, I believe sex has a lot more potential.

>> No.6926959
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6926959

As a man, sexual desire is mostly a burden.
Of course, you pursuit (may it be philosophy or anything else) is more fulfilling. The fascination for it never suddenly fades, like is the case with wanting to fuck and the penile climax, where the meaninglessness strikes you.
Wanting pussy is coded into you, the need comes in distracting peaks, while the sexual craving isn't even always the need to come. The "which man gets to fuck the girls" game makes us idolize the player: We want to be the person in the position to get pussy more than the situation of having the pussy.
And remember there is always someone who gets more and better pussy - you can't really win.

>> No.6926963

>>6926950
I had sex with my first cousin when we were both 19, felt like I was outside of reality for a day or two afterwards.

>> No.6926971

>>6926959
>ywn be Ghengis Khan

>> No.6926978

ITT: /r9k/ justifying its lack of pussy by starting with the Greeks

>> No.6926979

>>6926950
>On the whole pussy/passion debate, I really believe noone here has had sex with a member of their close family. It is so intimate and personal and loving that no work of literature even compares, a candle compared to the great power of the sun.

Kek'd aloud. You may have banged a family member, but I bet it wasn't a younger sister named Phoebe. The experience is Empyrean.

>> No.6926982

>>6926946
>Logic and Maths have always implicitly been at the core of philosophy, hence why many philosophers were STEM people as their main occupation.
Yeah, so what? What the fuck are you even arguing about

>You literally can't prove anything outside of any logical framework
And you say this triumphantly, WHY exactly? This is a good thing you arse

>Even the presocratics made connexions between things by analogy
Analogies are not logical, though

>and at times modus ponens
Well, since the presocratics didn't even have a logical system to work with -- not even the Aristotelian kind -- there is no way they "made connexions [...] by modus ponens". So they weren't really proving anything.

>> No.6926986

>>6926950
How close are we talking, m8?

>> No.6926995
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>ever caring about pussy

I don't understand how anyone can legitimately like women. I've met so many women, read about so many - fuck, I can't even think of a fictional character I've liked that was a woman.

But even if you were gay, the same thing applies. Once you're very passionate about something, I don't think there's room for a deep and intimate relationship.

You always get those normie friend who insist their girlfriend is nice and perfect, then you meet the girl in question and she's a fucking retard, you tell him so, he says NAH MATE, THIS IS THE ONE, and a few months/years later he's sobbing because she left him for someone else.

Being interested in a lineage, however, is fulfilling. That's why you ideally want to get a young and malleable woman when you're in your 30s, ideally a poor orphan with low-esteem so she has no other option but to raise your offspring and make you food.

>> No.6926997

>>6926982
what is non-classical logic

The presocratics didn't ever have valid proof of anything, but some of them were self-consistent enough (Anaxagoras comes to mind) to consider they had a framework - albeit a flawed one - in which to think.

>> No.6927001

It's called trying to fit in.

a) you have never got good pussy
>yes I have
Then why make this thread at all

So

b) You try to fit in with something you have that you believe is superior, something that makes you feel good and somethings that brings meaning when you don't/can't find any or what is meaningful is unobtainable for a certain period of time.

Hence your proclaimed "love" for something barely lovable in comparison and something more so about procrastination and interest to take your mind away from the harsh reality.

You can get it bro, just keep at it.

>> No.6927009

>>6927001

Honestly, when you have the option to fuck a girl every day, it doesn't become very different from eating. You want it, you want it bad, and then it's over and you're asking yourself why you just binged on a pizza when you had smoked salmon in the fridge all along.

>> No.6927022

>>6926950
>>6926963
>>6926979
>>6926995

I knew /lit/ was suspiciously admirative of Nabokov but come on.

>> No.6927031

>>6927009
Keyword... Good pussy.

That word is much more then just easy pussy you get to bang everyday. You haven't had the thrill of the risk of not getting something, the thrill of having your heart crushed or triumphant conquering and winning your crush. Having the need or want to get someone you think you couldn't even get or someone that excites you.

As someone deep in philosophy what you say is true and consistent in life, you and I both know it's a constant up and down, every book has a climax and fall, life's a roller-coaster etc..

The hype, build up and climax are the best points, mainly the hype and build up are the propellers and so when you blow that load and its all done and dusted you seemingly don't care because it's done. It's straightforward.

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6927032

/lit/ is deluded in saying they meet interesting women all the time.
Yeah I'm sure the ratio of interesting people you meet in life is in favor of women... Fucking god, I swear.. Most of you seem to refuse to be even aware and critical of your surroundings for a second.

Most conversations you've had with women you wouldn't have had with a dude because there wasn't a snatch attached to it.

>> No.6927033

>>6926997
There were NO non-classical logics, NOT EVEN ARISTOTELIAN, at that time you stupid arse. They didn't even know what a proof was (not even Euclid, by contemporary proof-theoretic standards), let alone if it is valid or not.

>The presocratics didn't ever have valid proof of anything, but some of them were self-consistent enough (Anaxagoras comes to mind) to consider they had a framework - albeit a flawed one - in which to think.
Kek... so much for "the pre-socratics (each of them) got it right". Good job stepping on that rake.

>> No.6927049

>>6927033
That guy you replied to didn't say they got everything right; I just said that as a meme lmao. The Pre-Socs are important in breaking away from mythos to logos but they certainly didn't get much 'right' tbh

>> No.6927051

>>6927031

I believe you, anon, but you also have to believe me when I tell you that I've yet to come across a woman that made me desire her that much.

>> No.6927052

>Can't get pussy so I read to dull the pains of solitude

>> No.6927054

>>6927052
Damn niqqa

>> No.6927060

>Not having a loyal semen demon gf

>> No.6927068

>>6927054
Feel wit me fam

>> No.6927072

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldj0RX3CqXA

How do you meet women like this?

>> No.6927076

>>6927072
i dont think you meeting them is the problem what are you planning to do when you meet them

>> No.6927077

>>6927060

The only girls who are semen demons tend to be crazy as fuck.

Like you always meet that nice girl who seems surprisingly kinky, who has a sad family story, but you tell yourself, no, she's not like the rest of them at all, only to see that she's fucking nuts even compared to the rest of her kindred a few months into the relationship.

Seriously, I can't be the only one who has this happening to him over and over while everyone else finds nice girls.

>> No.6927079

>Not sticking your dick in someone who intellectually challenges you

Maybe you're looking for the wrong type of pussy.

And you're a faggot if you think it's impossible to be intellectually challenged by someone who has a vagina

>> No.6927081

>>6927077
yes women who have "damaged" pasts can be unhinged that doesn't mean you can't have relationships with them. if you were a girl whose dad beat her you'd be unhinged too maybe use empathy or something nerd

>> No.6927084

>>6927072
Go to Alain De Botton lectures.

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6927086

>Spinoza had his books banned
>spent his life grinding lenses
>died of inhaling lens dust

this world is a cruel place

>> No.6927089

>>6927068
Hello feel my old friend

>> No.6927092

>>6927081
>>6927077
She can be a semen demon without being 'kinky' or a slut.

>> No.6927094

>>6927077
>tfw all girls I ever date tend to be crazy or depressed
>never get laid because of it nothings my fault btw im the best lmao

Suppose I should just become a monk tbh

>> No.6927095

>>6927081

Anon, I meant precisely that. Being in a relationship with them until shit starts getting crazy, like you can't call or meet your sister/mother because she thinks you're fucking them.

I've had three that were like that. I'm not even joking.

>> No.6927096

>>6927076

Should I respect the fact the m'lady wouldn't want sexual intercourse on the first night?

>> No.6927098

>>6927079
Challeneged but never beaten, do not mistake to think a woman is okay with dating an inferior.

>> No.6927102

>>6927095
some people are just too crazy. but some people do crazy things and are still good people worth trying to work through things with. sometimes if you talk to them they'll figure things out. sometimes you just need to have a super swag and productive open relationship with them for 8 months. who knows man.

>> No.6927106

>>6927096
i dont think there would be a first night tbh

>> No.6927114

>care more about literature than pussy

my life in a nutshell. Would turn down most pussy for some alone time with a book

>> No.6927120

>>6926946

>he thinks the presocratics were trying to prove things

absolute pleb

>> No.6927123

Question time: Never get laid (again if you're a chad scum lmao) or Never read books again?

>> No.6927124

>>6927072
This is today's ideology at its purest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osyy2B9KlZU

>> No.6927125

>>6927114

My nigga. But that goes with everything for me, including family gatherings, outings with friends, etc.

Maybe I'm just a loner autist, but I like being with myself and daydreaming a lot more than being around actual people.

>> No.6927126

>>6927079

I've never met a physically appealing woman who intellectually challenged me. Those who did were ugly.

Maybe /lit/'s standards are low as fuck.

>> No.6927127

>>6927086
He was a pretty happy dude though. Corresponded with tons of European thinkers. Had Leibniz visit him. Was congenial with the people he lived with. Made spiders fight each other while cackling with laughter.

He wasn't sad or tragic in the least bit.

>> No.6927131

>>6926851
>22
>undegrad physics & philosophy and prospective philo grad student
> Virigin

What the fuck is this shit doing to me /lit/?

>> No.6927135

>>6927126
i've never met a woman attractive or otherwise who challenged me intellectually

go on salty dumbasses, spew your ad homs

>> No.6927138

>>6927131
Graduate philosophy is literally the most senseless thing you can do with your life unless you can get into a top five Ph.D program. You might disagree with me but if you do it you will regret it. There is absolutely no prospect for you.

>> No.6927139

>>6927131
22s not bad at all mate, don't worry. I'm 18 and a virgin, which is very bad.

>> No.6927142

>>6927127
>Made spiders fight each other while cackling with laughter.

Sounds sad and tragic tbh

>> No.6927144

>>6927123

Do we still get to keep pleb entertainment like animu and vidya?

>>6927126

I know that feel, anon. Even if they're "smart," they tend not to be the sort of people I'd like to speak to. I mean, it's not hard to be cultured nowadays, but it's just hard to connect to these people. I've yet to meet a woman that truly understood the notion of honor, or valuing an idea/ideals over human life, be it your own or everyone else's.

It's like no matter how smart they are, no matter how crazy they get, they're still normies in this very unappealing way. Like the sort of people who ask you if you wanna go hiking with her friends and genuinely mean it.

>> No.6927146

>>6927131
You probably shouldn't major in physics or philosophy if you sincerely think that your choice of profession is causing your virginity.

>> No.6927151

>>6927142

You sound sad and tragic, like the sort of person who focuses on having a "career" and loses sight of what's most important in life at the end of the day: fun.

If the guy liked watching spiders fight, who the fuck are you to say it was sad and tragic? Jesus, I hate people like you.

>> No.6927153

>>6927138
Nah. I don't disagree with you, that is the fucked up thing. I have secondary plans to either join the military concentrating on my physics degree or do a masters program in engineering. Nevertheless, I would like to see where this philofag shit takes me because I enjoy the discussion.

>> No.6927154

>>6927124

http://inspirobot.me/

this tbh

>> No.6927155

>>6927151
it's sad and tragic to enjoy watching sentient creatures murder each other

kill urself tbh fam

>> No.6927157

>>6927144

>Even if they're "smart," they tend not to be the sort of people I'd like to speak to.

This. Most intelligent women I've met seem to be into this dumbass cottage aesthetic and dress like a 1950's mom.
And they can't turn it off, like they have something massively to compensate for with other women being mostly netflix'n'shit.

>> No.6927159

>>6927146

It is already said and done my friend. I can't undo my choices. The only thing I could possible avoid is grad phil.

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>>6927154

LMAO, I got this. How the hell is this inspirational? They sure aren't catering to people from 4chan.

>> No.6927166

>>6927163

use it for some minutes fam, you will like it

>> No.6927171

>>6927001
>Hence your proclaimed "love" for something barely lovable in comparison and something more so about procrastination and interest to take your mind away from the harsh reality.
I don't know if you're talking about philosophy or pussy.

>>6927009
>>6927031
Are you for real? You sound like what I'd imagine Charlie Sheen would sound like on the days he doesn't almost OD.
Your comparison between a book, an idea or a philosophy, and sex is superficial and more importantly inane. Reading a philosophy book is not a "rise, climax, and fall", it's a constant rise. Everything you read and learn is one step closer to the idea of understanding. Philosophers of the past, the ones whose philosophies we read, believed they had either reached THE understanding or simply one of several ways of understanding. What on Earth is there to understand about pussy that everyone doesn't already know? We are biologically wired to enjoy sex, of that one can develop fetishes to increase the pleasure in other ways aside from orgasms, but ultimately it will always end with the orgasm.
Now, let's realistically look at what you're talking about. One day you will be old, one day you will no longer be able to passionately lose yourself in a woman, her pussy, the rise to the orgasm, the orgasm. What then? In fact, it doesn't even have to take that long. How about right after sex, right after the orgasm, you're completely empty, what then? Pussy means nothing any more. Then later, you repeat what you have already done once before, ending with the same result, ending with the same emptying. What's next? Taking up pussy as substitution for philosophy, or rather, pussy as philosophy, is fruitless--Unless you count children and a family as an important goal, maybe the goal in your life, then the path is quite straight forward. It's one thing to be in a relationship and fuck, or simply fuck freely, searching endlessly for "good pussy", once gaining it then losing it then repeating the search over and over again, and another to pursue philosophy.

>> No.6927173

>>6927154
kek, they could literally replace Alain de Botton with an AI

>> No.6927179

>>6927153
I was definitely there once. I took some graduate courses too in my time at university. It's sad that the discussion just isn't there in the way you expect it to be. And I went to a top university. The truth is that philosophy in academia has this intensely superficial quality. It has everything to do with saying the right thing to the right person, and getting perfect marks. There are definitely some good people in those programs but they infrequently become proper academics themselves. You're most likely to simply face the reiteration of every classic argument you've ever come in contact with. And if you're studying in most American universities the focus will be incredibly analytical. Even the metaphysics.

Just if you do it you should realize there will be no employment prospects as a result except community college maybe where you have to teach introductions idiots who actually don't give a shit.

I'm obviously projecting here and feel free to ignore me but I'd look into engineering if I were you. Or at least try to remove the rosy colored glasses of your idea of philosophy and theoretical physics before you take those paths.

>> No.6927182

>>6927154
>http://inspirobot.me/
You ruined my day.

>> No.6927196

>>6927102
>a super swag and productive open relationship
what the fuck?

>> No.6927200

>>6927179

Nah, I mostly agree with your claims because it was told to me by most of my professors, or at least implied. The thing is, I come from a pluralist concentration, and most of the work that I have done is mostly concentrated in phenomenology and philosophy of mind, e.g. Kant, Hegel, Husserl, Merleau-Ponty, and earlier Heidegger. I don't know if that changes the scope of things when contrasted to analytic prospectives, but I still hold to the 'illusion' that I am going to see where this road leads, and if it ends up in fuck all, I will whip out my E & M and mathematical physics books to brush up on stuff to pursue engineering.

>> No.6927201

>>6927171

What you said would make sense, if your goal in life was to seek constant improvement as opposed to the emotional gamble that's hunting pussy.

Some people try to maximize their prospects, others just want to hunt the bad pussy. I wouldn't call either wrong.

>> No.6927202

>>6926851
welcome to sublimation 101

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>>6927154

>> No.6927208

>>6927200
word. Either way never stop reading philosophy

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>>6927154

(CAN'T WAKE UP)

>> No.6927214

>>6926959
or you know, you could just get a girlfriend.

>> No.6927216

>>6927208
I can't stop thinking about philosophy. Shit infiltrates my sleep. Anyways anon, thanks for the advice.

>> No.6927225

>>6927151
>most important in life at the end of the day: fun.
FUN?! Out of all the things you could have picked you picked FUN? Like, good luck arriving at some quasi-universal truth about reality by "having fun". Get your infantile, upside-down priorities straight. You've got a limited amount of time to understand yourself and the world you find yourself in before you kick the bucket. "Having fun" is not a foolproof way of doing that. It is a matter of time before you degenerate to the point of no return, if all you do is "have fun". The saddest thing is that you wouldn't even have the intellectual means to protect yourself against this degeneration, because all you know are these fun-having experiences.

The priority in life, BY AND FUCKING LARGE, should be *understanding*, not "having fun".

>> No.6927232

>>6927225

Your post was sarcastic, right?

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>>6927151

>> No.6927241

>>6927225
If you get satisfaction from understanding then understanding if 'fun' for you.

anything you choose to do is for the purpose of 'fun'.

>> No.6927242

>>6926885

>Tractatus
>Not brown and blue books

>> No.6927244

>>6927154

> Rape without an intimate relationship is like killing without chicken

>> No.6927246

>>6927201
We have to pose the question: which is most important? After that: does the one impede on the other?
Various philosophies do ascertain that sex, among other pleasures, is the way to live. In this way, both philosophy and sex would be correct, because they fuel one another. But is that where it ends? Always chasing and obtaining pleasure, crashing, and then chasing again. What when one is not able to chase any longer? Does the philosophy not become meaningless? Where does life and death come into this sort of philosophy?

>Some people try to maximize their prospects, others just want to hunt the bad pussy. I wouldn't call either wrong.
What is the final, the ultimate, goal of "hunting the bad pussy"? There's only two suggestions as far as I can tell:
Marriage and family as one, old age or death as the other.

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>>6927154

>> No.6927250

>>6927241
Change fun to enjoyment and I'd agree with ya

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>>6927154

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>>6927154

the messages in between made me really paranoid

>> No.6927258

>>6927241
Your definition of fun is that which encompasses anything and everything a human being can do or attempt to do regardless of whether the results are positive or negative.
Bravo, anon, that's first-rate stupidity.

>> No.6927259

>>6927251

10/10

>> No.6927263

>>6927241
Well, I was more going for, and reacting to, the more common interpretation of 'fun': hedonism.

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>>6927258

>that whole comment

>> No.6927275

>>6926872
>>mfw there is no end to this logico-mathematical rabbit-hole
leave the reason through the reason itself

take logic and maths for what they are, mere tools completely disconnected to knowledge beyond the analytical kind.

>> No.6927282

>>6927265
>/tv/

>> No.6927284

>>6926889
this tbh

>> No.6927294

>>6927263
Where does it start and where does it end? The entire idea of hedonism is vague as fuck.

Is sex hedonistic but reading a book not? Why?

>> No.6927299

>>6927294
He probably meant the get-pissed-every-night-and-do-heroin sorta hedonism over Epicureanism

>> No.6927303

>>6927294
I said 'common' (i.e. mainstream indulgences of society); that means: sex, alcohol, and drugs.

>> No.6927308

>>6927303
>>6927299
I know what you mean but where does it end?

is reading shitty comic books hedonism?

>> No.6927320

>>6927308
It's too casual. Same as watching anime or movies all day, or reading books. It's sex, getting drunk, getting high, feeling immense pain or pleasure.

>> No.6927321

>>6927294
>>6927303
One other way to define this form of hedonism is to stipulate that it is an activity which requires of you little to no intellectual engagement.

>> No.6927333

>>6927308
Again, you must consider how common it is relative to the mainstream trends of hedonism. I don't think comics and reading make that cut.

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reminder that women a pure hedonistic creatures

>> No.6927344

>>6927275
>knowledge beyond the analytical kind

kek

>> No.6927345

>>6927339
Actually, most men are too.

>> No.6927348

>>6927339
It's cute how every male thinks females as they describe them means only "females I would fuck".

>> No.6927355

>>6927348
That's because other females don't exist, they don't even cross our minds.

>> No.6927365

Your brain is deluding you in an attempt to salvage any bit of hope left within you. You can't get tang so you rationalize it that it was because you weren't ever really interested; that you pursued a "more" important purpose. In reality you're just another cuck like the rest of us.

>> No.6927375

>>6927355
dubs.

So most females are actually men instrumentally?

Everyone who rejects the oppression model for liberal statistical measures is actually saying that women are the truly oppressed gender while denying it.

That or the gender binary is nonsense.

>> No.6927377

>>6927365
So many people itt assuming that OP can't or doesn't get pussy. Stop projecting please

>> No.6927389

>>6927375
>the oppression model for liberal statistical measures
What a colossal word-salad

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>>6927154

This is now a Nietzsche General

>> No.6927399

>>6927375
>So most females are actually men instrumentally?
No.
>Everyone who rejects the oppression model for liberal statistical measures is actually saying that women are the truly oppressed gender while denying it.
>the oppression model for liberal statistical measures
>women are the truly oppressed gender while denying it
What the fuck are you even trying to say.
>That or the gender binary is nonsense.
Gender binary is nonsense.

>> No.6927402

>>6927072
>Nietzsche wants a return to Dionysusian thought
>We should just return to our base instincts.
>Then completely overlooks Nietzsche's critique of aesthetics involving the two gods.

Fuck, this is among the worst products of post-modernist thought.

>> No.6927418

>>6927399
>So most females are actually men instrumentally? No.
>Gender binary is nonsense.

>> No.6927427

>>6926995
>That's why you ideally want to get a young and malleable woman when you're in your 30s, ideally a poor orphan with low-esteem so she has no other option but to raise your offspring and make you food.
Alright, Luzhin.

>> No.6927429

>>6927377
Confirmed deluded.

>> No.6927437

>>6927418
How about you try to say what you want to say without involving bogus tumblr speak?

>> No.6927442

>>6927429
How do you know? You don't know if I value pussy or philosophy more. I just don't like people arguing against baseless assumptions.

>> No.6927445

>>6927418

>Implying that detesting the notion of gender binary means you are arguing the former point

Reading comprehension

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>>6926927
quality post

>> No.6927494

>>6927445
instrumentally, any gender is any gender as universal equivalent.

>>6927437
Reform your Study

>> No.6927512

>>6927494
>tumblr tries /lit/
Never seen this before, amusing.

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>>6926927
I'M A

LACANIAN BAD ASS WATCH ME KICK
YOU CAN ROLL WITH JACQUES OR YOU CAN SUCK MY DICK

>> No.6927628

>>6927445
>There are people who reject the gender binary

This is one hell of a world we're living in lads

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>>6927512
tumblr is a scapegoat for your misogyny. It's content is barely different from that of 4chan. "SJW" blogs are just a provocative form of net art. Considered as a whole online community, tumblr is a bunch of dirty men who share cooter shots and women being choked and have nothing more to say but nice.

Have you just legitimately never encountered any far leftist before? Honestly, some of the richest, most compelling and most dynamic political theory is produced by Maoists and the ideology is on point as well. As a matter of fact, Maoist is really the only actually political Marxism, Trotskyism precludes leaving the political struggle to liberals.

In regards to political matters, if you have read Carl Schmidt or Leo Strauss as a matter of course in your political education but have neglected your study of Mao Zedong Thought then how do you really expect to have knowledge of non-liberal ideas in response to the bounds of liberalism and western paradigms. If so, then you see no purpose to life but the argument of liberalism and/or with itself, and so it has outgrown and outproduced it's vaunted claim to freedom and liberty.

>> No.6927649

>not. getting the boypussi

>> No.6927652

>>6927628
rejecting the binary without combating patriarchy is not rejecting the binary. Think about the reality of production.

>> No.6927658

>>6927640
>tumblr is a scapegoat for your misogyny.
Stopped reading right there.

>> No.6927665

>MUH VIRTUE ETHICS, MUH SHALLOW WOMEMES

stay uppity, Ignatius

>> No.6927669

>>6927658
Why the indignant outrage at the prospect that you hate women? If you do not accept that even as a possible, you are not prepared to face the scope of truth and would confine it within what is comfortable to you. This is not good inquiry.

>> No.6927670

You all realize that your interests in philosophy or logic or mathematics have nothing to do with your inability to get laid or have a relationship. It has so much more to do with the kind of people you are, at the very least the way that you present yourselves on this website as misogynists and those with baseless obsessions in things that are beyond your own intellects to a degree that you yourselves come off as pompous and pretentious memes. Calling it 'pussy' is not going to help you get laid, and you can talk in circles wasting your entire day on this website, dropping names to one another of authors and theorists that you yourself don't fully comprehend, and competing in embittered arguments as if you were arguing about whose father could beat up whose in a fight.

It's possible that some of you are capable socialites who take on a persona for the comedy of the internet, but it's likely that some of you just need to calm the fuck down and act more reasonably toward other people.

>> No.6927679

>>6927670
wrong thread

>> No.6927684

>>6927131
Phys/phil
>oxford?

>> No.6927694

>>6927670
>Calling it 'pussy' is not going to help you get laid

The feminist notion that you need to submit to their ideas and be a little bitch to get laid is hilarious.

In your mind no one like this, for example me, gets laid, because we are "misogynist". So at no point you can be proven wrong because anyone who you disagree with is labeled as 'can't get laid loser' in your mind.

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>>6927154

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>>6927154
>http://inspirobot.me/

This is true.

>> No.6927716

>>6927694
No all I mean is people like this tend to sound like assholes or douchebags, or the kind of people that make you cringe because they're so socially underdeveloped.

>> No.6927754

>>6927716
Do you think assholes and douchebags strugle to get laid? Or don't know how to hide their opinions when looking to get laid?

Obviously some are incapable but you're delusional.

>> No.6927761

>>6927754
I'm mostly talking about the autistics here who are both assholes and cringey. I thought I was posting on the thread where people were complaining about being virgins.

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>>6927154

>> No.6927782

>>6927640
Holy hell, I have only read Maoist and Trotskyist theory, but my god what Zizek said was true.
All of you radical opportunist revolutionaries are balls to the wall crazy.

I guess the saying is true "Marxism will never be free until the last Stalinist is strangled with the entrails of the last Trotskyist."

>> No.6927830

>>6927782
The spectre of Stalinism and Stalinophobia is as scientific as Myers-Briggs. It's fear of a personality type that goes back to the sentiments Bakunin expressed against Marx and Kautsky against Lenin. This is expressed most succinctly in Adorno's Authoritarian Personality, which even the author of that work admits was tantamount to reflexive grip of fear.

Crazy/Fanatical is the default charge of Liberals who's critique is empty and capable only of constructing antiliberalism as a historically isolated phenomenon.. Is it not the case for liberals that anything beyond the confines of liberalism is fanatical? How can liberalism remain liberalism when it discounts the possibility that anyone who disavows it must be fanatical or hysterical. What is not liberal is fanatical and what is fanatical is not liberal. Liberalism can always prove itself against the past but never against the lessons of the past.

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>>6927830
>But the liberals are against my position, that must mean I'm right
>Anyone who is against my position is a liberal

Hate to break this to you comrade of the revolution, but Stalinism was bad. Not "bad" as in, oh shit he killed millions and was an asshole while doing it. "Bad" as in fucking over the revolution by putting in place a capitalist dictatorship which brainwashed its own citizenry into thinking they were in a communist utopia. At least Lenin was pragmatic and thought that the revolution had to take a swing into a capitalist system to eventually lead to a true socialist state. Instead we got Stalin, who just went capitalist and then kept on the capitalist road.

Anyways, hate to break this to you comrade. But being the most violent and screaming for revolution more, doesn't make you more radical or more socialist. It makes you a childish asshat.

- From, your friendly neighborhood socialist.

>> No.6927901

>>6927888
>Stalin, who just went capitalist and then kept on the capitalist road.

Wow you really know literally nothing about the USSR lol. Did you enjoy animal farm anon?

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>>6927154

>> No.6927917

>>6927901
>Wow
>lol
Disregarded

>> No.6927926

>>6927225
Tell me, why do you think Buddha is smiling?

>> No.6927938

>>6927114

Agreed. Being alone can be a bit tough when high.

>> No.6927939

>>6927917
>thinks the problem with Stalin is that he was "capitalist" rather than him abandoning the NEP to quickly and trying to build socialism before the USSR was ready
>literally has no idea what capitalism is
>proudly takes pictures of Orwell books

Disregarded lol

>> No.6927946

Eh, I prefer dogs.

>> No.6927948

>>6927939
I'm not the guy you responded to earlier, I'm someone else who thinks you're a complete tool.

>> No.6927995

>>6927079
Well I've yet to meet such a person

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>>6927888

Of course, for the revolution to spread East instead of West was a disaster. :^)

Once again you revert to the most facile either/or definitions of capitalism. You've gone out of the way not to say "totalitarian". The experience of the 20th century is nothing for you but easily opt-out of with an easy escape hatch, then it's smooth, palatable bourg historiography.

Stalin conceded too much to the economic, though this was not to say his economic preoccupation was not productive. You have presented me with your dilettante collection and there is not one work by Stalin concerning wither the economic or the ideological struggle. No investigation, no opinion.

Stalinism can mean anything from Charu Mazumdar to Bernie Sanders.

>the most violent and screaming for revolution more.
You cannot conceive of taking up the political struggle and so concede it to liberalism and doom your own practice to tail-ism. Your limits are proscribed by the threat of adventurism as if the possibility of discipline and correctly handling legal and illegal work does not exist for Marxists as both a precedent and reality.

Confound your pigeonholed, hobbled, and infinitely limited practice. I bet you go to college every day to get your brain filled with bourgeois ideology like a creampie. Your communism is like your socialism, a numinous and foggy paradise that was foreclosed prematurely and never a real movement. Away with you.

>> No.6928012

>>6926889
>not being bisexual
ha

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>>6927702

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>>6928075
Great job anon

>> No.6928088

>>6928082
thanks some call me a meme artist but I prefer mèmeur

>> No.6928094

Ironically the more you genuinely care about philosophy for the betterment of your own mental faculties and as a result your overall being the better pussy you'll get, just like the great Zizek.

>> No.6928100

>>6928094
This tbh, I've found from experience the less desperate and obsessive over pussy the successful/happy I got

>> No.6928113

>>>>6928001
>You have presented me with your dilettante collection
Not even my collection, I just found it in a socialist's works thread on r/socialism. But if you really think that Stalin's works are more that toilet paper then you clearly haven't read superior works.

For example:
>The October Revolution and the Tactics of the Russian Communists
Trash, read literally anything by Rosa Luxemburg if you want a better understanding of the revolutionary practice. Which is kinda funny seeing as Rosa failed and still has a better understanding of revolution.

But yeah, I don't know what you are trying to say with "Stalinism can be anything from 'fuck face' to 'joe blow'." Implying that Stalinism has become something "beyond comprehension" due to the fact that liberals and rightists have wrongly critiqued Stalinism is the largest load of horse shit ideology I have heard all week. Or are you implying that I hold this belief? Because I don't.

Anyways, I'm happy that you have found your place in a thought system that only requires constant faith and devotion to the cause. Instead of having constant faith to a cause which you are able to intellectually critique, and make sure that you are self aware of what you believe in. /s

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Oh yeah, you guys are a real bunch of soren kierkegaards, I'm sure.

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>>6927154
>reality is just another word for death camp

>> No.6928145

Even if I wanted to gain pussy, I wouldn't get it anyway.

I have too many spergy characteristics, even though I look fairly okay physically speaking.

I am not funny, and I'm not interesting, so I think that I lost that game from the start.

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>>6928144

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>>6928152

>> No.6928162

I actually don't want pussy but I like woman's immediate-sightedness since it reminds me not to be so serious all the time.

>> No.6928186

>>6928162
I like women's company. But I have no idea how to flirt, or to attract them, so even if I wanted pussy, I'd never get it anyway.

>> No.6928196

You all niggas say that you don't want pussy but once you are in a situation where a girl bends over showing her ass you all chimps get his dick full hard ohmohmimohmoh that pussy looks so fleshy and so on

try to deny me, cmon, do it

>> No.6928202

>>6928196
Well you're right, so.

>> No.6928205

>>6928113
I'm talking about your collection of Trotskyist cliches, not the books.
Stalinism isn't beyond comprehension, in the pejorative sense. You just don't understand Stalin and his contributions at all. You can't appreciate his synthesis (from his participation) of the Leninist Party into a directive for mass activity. It's not your fault, trots have turned expanded the definition of Stalinism to include Naxalism (read Charu Mazumdar and the four-class bloc organizational strategy) to collaboration with the Democratic Party (Bernie Sanders). Unscientific Stalinophobia, like any unscientific aversion to avenues for revolutionary practice on uncritical pre-revolutionary principle results in contradictions in theory. Marxism-Leninism isn't for those who tie their hands in advance and thus fail to participate in revolutionary practice in an active and critical way.

>you can even qualify Luxemburg's historically contextual understanding of revolution apart from Stalin's as a reflection of an objective phenomenon.

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>>6927154

>> No.6928216

>>6927225
Do you really think fun has to be separate from knowledge?
I don't know man, I'm incredibly pessimistic in my life but I'm not a sad sack of shit. Actually, every day seems amazing to me, it's just that I'm too conscious of all the bullshit happening everywhere all the time. That doesn't mean I'm not having fun, rather I don't see why it means I can't have fun in my daily activities.

>> No.6928217

>>6928162
women are immediate-sighted because they live in constant fear of being raped.

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best one tbh

>> No.6928227

>>6928217
It's more like their inability to use reason.

>> No.6928233

>>6928227
>use reason
...in the same post you come out and drop the spaghetti about reason being instrumental.

>> No.6928241

>>6927154
>weakness is to use your head
kek

>> No.6928248

>>6928233
Never said anything about reason being instrumental.

However, I'm pretty sure that women are more overtly emotional creatures than men, and thus they enjoy company with other people to a larger degree than men do.

>> No.6928259

>>6926851
That happened to me too, you have to be aware from living too much in spirit and not enough in body.
This happened to me because I began listening to too much noise, neo-psych and drone while reading luciferian philosophy and occult books along with meditating.
It's important that you sometimes shut off your higher aspect (that is, contemplation of beauty, though and music) and focus instead a little bit on more mundane.
Basically, you are way too "north" when you should ideally be between halfway "north" and "south", what you need to do is go south a little bit.
For me it was enough to just engage in exercise and to stop indulging in mindful things too much, I'm not sure how it would be for you.

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>> No.6928263

>>6928260

holy shit 10/10

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>>6926861
>putting the pussy on a pedestal
srsly

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>>6927154

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>>6927154

/lit/

>> No.6928399

>>6928196
Yeah your instincts take over. But for me sex is like taking a shit, something deplorable but natural, and has to be done.

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>>6927154

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FUCK IN THE WHAT

>> No.6928778

>>6928259
>It's important that you sometimes shut off your higher aspect
>stop indulging in mindful things too much

Why would you ever want to do that?

>> No.6928798

>>6926950
>>6926979

The only real patricians in this thread, I tip my hat to you sirs.

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Why is it that someone could accurately rationalise a life free of pussy, demonstrating the circular and meaninglessness nature of the sex-drive like >>6926959 has, then argue the case that philosophy is infinitely more important, but then me totally shut down by

>lol fukin nerd bet u get no pussy

and totally lose within any social context? I figured out a long time ago that my "sex-drive" is 1% libido and 99% societal expectations. Why can't we accept people who don't fuck? They're ostracized even more than people who are perceived to fuck too much.

>> No.6928981

>>6927022
Have you even read Nabokov?

>> No.6929002

>>6926861
This tbh

>> No.6929013

>>6927225

>he hasn't yet understood that fun is the only purpose in life

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>>6927154
welp

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>>6927225
>unironically being the 'no fun allowed' guy

>> No.6929072

>>6927154
I just got 'inspiration is an old whore' with a picture of Hitler.

10/10

>> No.6929081

>>6927249
damn...

>> No.6929084

>>6927127
>Made spiders fight each other while cackling with laughter.

Literally invented pokemon

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>>6927154

>> No.6929097

>>6926861
yep

tbt many times i'd rather just jerk off to some nasty stuff instead of trying to score, but i know that the awareness of failing to meet social expectations would destroy me emotionally

so really sex is some sort of therapy sanctioned by cultural values i've internalized. it has nothing to do with the act of sex itself, after all i'm so jaded at this point that it's even getting hard for me to enjoy it properly

>> No.6929123

>>6926861
>happiness is a fata morgana, and to acquire something is to discover how vain it is
Can't rope-a-dope the Schope my fellow sufferers

>> No.6929124

>>6928778
Because we currently live in reality and not beyond it, which is why focusing on what's here and now is just as important as focusing on abstractions.

>> No.6929141

>>6927214
Confirmed someone who never had a girlfriend before.
You still lust after other pussy no matter what. And you still have to pay for her with time even if

>> No.6929149

>Muh philosophy is life
Please, you nerds are embarrasing thb and I studied philosophy

>> No.6929157

>>6929124
this.

contemplating beauty and god and shit is great, it is, but you need to be grounded in the world. if you really believe in this stuff you need to have live in and respect the world you're in right now.

which is why even in kabbalah the physical world (malkuth) is a reflection of the highest principle (kether). the physical world is not to be discarded like trash. it is as important as anything else

>> No.6929160

>>6929149
>how dare someone like something a lot!

>> No.6929163

>>6929097
>i'm so jaded at this point that it's even getting hard for me to enjoy it properly

Are you even allowed to say something like this on 4chan?

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>>6929157
>muh Qabbalism

>> No.6929168

>>6929163
NO YOU STUPID FAGGOTS SEX IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF LIFE
IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING _PUSSY_ YOU ARE A _FAILURE_
IT IS THE ULTIMATE THE ONE TRUTH
GET _PUSSY_ OR YOU HAVE _FAILED_
YOU FUCKING DISGUSTING MANBABIES

>> No.6929173

>>6929168
>SEX IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF LIFE
lol look at this cuck

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>>6929165
>implying qabbalah is just a spook
>implying

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>>6927154

>> No.6929196

>>6929165

>Qabbalah is a New Age spiritual system

Just because it wasn't covered in your introduction to world history course doesn't mean it's not been around for millennia.

>> No.6929197

>>6929160
I'm just here to mock a particular group of people. I make no normative prescriptions.

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know this feel so hard. the first few months with my gf, i was overcome with lust and absorbed in the moment. now i think about schopenhauer as soon as i start striping ropes of cum across her back.

>> No.6929212

>>6929196
Source? I thought Qabbalah as a tradition began in the 13th-14th century.

>> No.6929214

>>6929207
that sounds pretty gay tbh
what i think about after i cum is how I'm going to want to do this again
like, how a craving is craved and suddenly it stops being craved, when does it become craved again?

And then I never contemplate the thought until next time

>> No.6929219

>>6929214
As soon as I reach the "point of no return", my mind instantly detaches from the situation and starts analyzing everything. It's annoying as fuck

>> No.6929224

>>6929219
Yeah, mine does too. What's the deal with that? Like as I orgasmed I saw a spider on the wall and suddenly began thinking how we find their utterly alien appearance scary because of instincts and how they have been around for millions of years and if animals are also afraid as spiders as humans are, etc. but this only happens post-coitus, I literally don't give a fuck until then.

>> No.6929233

>>6927171
You sound like the biggest fucking inept social-autist I've ever heard, the thrill in learning philosophy is abysmal, I understand what you're saying but any sane person with interest in philosophy can learn what others have to teach and I've yet to see many famous original philosophical ideas that doesn't require referring or using other famous ideas. Philosophy compared to an actual pleasurable action of finding/chasing the right person and developing sexual interest from there. If you think philosophy is I no then for a fact your probably either a virgin or someone who is to scared to even go out and try and get some. You sound like a psuedointellect who think he gets endless pussy to the point of it becoming pointless on is absolutely laughable. Only you will know anon but you have given us a rough idea of how pathetic your life is.

I could easily say that when you die no one will know or care about your pholosophical iddas that you learn't and I highly doubt you will become a famous philospher using rehased patrician ideas from lit. When you're old the only person who will care and use the mask of philosopher will be you instead of actually pyhsically enjoying life.

>> No.6929236

>>6928341
beautiful

>> No.6929240

>>6929212

It has its origins the Alexandrian Jewish community, who were under the influence of Hermeticism, Neoplatonism and -Pythagoreanism.

>> No.6929250

>>6929240
I asked for a source, scholarly if possible.

>> No.6929257

>>6927246
As with anything you pursue in life the end result is death but there is much more complexity to the hunt as there are risks involved and thrills to be had. Our primal/biologocal urges will scientifically always be much more pleasurable then philosophy, as was said and you continue to say life is about ups and downs you can't expiroence that reading about philosophy.

>> No.6929263

>>6929250

Ask nicely.

>> No.6929269

>>6929263
Would you please provide a source for your information?

>> No.6929272

>>6929269

http://www.amazon.com/Kabbalah-New-Perspectives-Moshe-Idel/dp/0300046995

>> No.6929285

>>6929272
Rad

>> No.6929311

>>6927154
>i can make unlimited quotes for you

TOP KEK

>> No.6929378

>>6929233
just b urself & hav fun :)

>> No.6929390

Blah blah blah. I have never head a worse topic. In fact. When Zizeck says 'blah blah'. Thats exactly what this entire thread has elaborated where he merely skips the entire interpretation.

>> No.6929402

>>6929390
>"head"
>"Zizeck"
>bumps by posting 'worst topic'

Topkek

>> No.6929424

yo philosophy and literature are great and all, they really are, but id be fucking fooling if i said id rather stay in and read a book than smash some pussy.

>> No.6929430

>>6928275
put the pussy in a sarcophagus

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>>6929430
deep