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If you disagree with an artist's personal beliefs and behaviour, does it affect the way you approach his work?

>> No.6925380

>>6925375
>>6925375
no

>> No.6925383

If you say no, you are lying, because tripfags exist.

>> No.6925405

>>6925383

What?

>> No.6925411

>>6925383
>tripfags
>artists

>> No.6925566

>>6925375
No.

>> No.6925586

>>6925375
Yes, I would never appreciate the work of any nigger-loving, feminist, communist faggot cuck

I have nothing against homosexuals or black people or woman though, only those shitty ass cocksucking bleeding heart lefties who should get hit by a truck

>> No.6925623

>>6925586
fuck off back to >>/pol/

>> No.6925656

Yes.

>> No.6925658

>>6925586
Not even if their work was completely detached from their political beliefs?

Imagine if you read the works of Heidegger before you read anything about his life. You went and read up on him afterwards and found out that he was anti-semitic. Would that make all of his writings worthless to you?
Oh wait.

>> No.6925660

>>6925375
No

Same thing if I agree with an artist's personal beliefs, those are completely irrelevant to execution

>> No.6925667

Nah.

>> No.6925671

>>6925375
Yeah feminist's have it right. The personal is political. Maybe I've always been more of a philosopher than a writer but if you have nothing to say or no point of view why would you write? You're beliefs and truths are the only thing that makes your writing interesting, and if you're a delusional asshat I don't have time for it. Maybe if it is far enough into abstraction but that doesn't happen.

>> No.6925683

>>6925671
Because art is about expression. Having a "message" doesn't mean anything if you don't know how to say or express it. If you like something simply because of someone's views and not because of how those views are shared how is that any different from being lectured?

>> No.6925705

Lovecraft was a racist, and I dislike that.

But that has nothing to do with Lovecraftian horror and the fear of the unknown and elder ancient aliens and shit. Or maybe it does, in a roundabout way. But it's roundabout enough not to bother me.

If a person was preaching against racemixing, I'd be pretty disturbed. But if they are preaching against mixing humans with fish people monsters, then I can ignore the racists origins of such a fear and just go with the creepy story.

>> No.6925776

No, I'm not a tumblr feminist.

>> No.6925810

>>6925375
No, otherwise my bookshelf would be fucking empty. Why deprive myself? Even taking beliefs aside, most authors are antisocial and unpleasant to be around. Look at Harlan Ellison. I may agree with his beliefs and like his work but I wouldn't want to be around him personally because he's an asshole.

>> No.6925814

No, otherwise I would've chucked Ender's Game, or that book of Anselm's papers. Though, I did end up chucking the latter, because it was shit anyway.

>> No.6925818

>>6925705
Go back to tumblr, cuck.

>> No.6925833

>>6925375
No, not unless they're trying to force-feed me their opinions constantly through their works. Unfortunately, a lot of authors are incapable of resisting the temptation.

>> No.6925847

>>6925705
Fun fact: Shadow over Innsmouth is an allegory for miscegenation

>> No.6925852

Reminder that he named his cat Niggerman.

>> No.6925877

>>6925847
But it's a happy ending.

>> No.6926017

Perhaps it feeds into my understanding of that artist's work to an extent, but logically I see no point in taking some kind of moral high ground by depriving yourself of a certain artist's works.

That goes double for people who are already dead or part of a different generation. I'd feel more put off of purchasing a book by a person my age who was a racist, knowing I'm essentially giving this person money by doing so, than watching a Roman Polanski movie, a man who grew up in a way different environment than me and even moreso than buying a book by Lovecraft.

>> No.6926018

>>6925375
Yes, I stop reading the books.

>> No.6926021
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6926021

>>6926017
This so so funny. Isn´t one point of books to get a impression of peoples lifes in different times?
There is a different between Young/present litirature and older literature, what they´re for is a different thing.

>> No.6926023

>>6926021
>Isn´t one point of books to get a impression of peoples lifes in different times?
No, it is to perceive the Form of Beauty.

>> No.6926025

>>6925877
I don't know if it can be considered a happy ending.

>> No.6926033

>>6926023
The why do you go to /lit?
Jk, there are many many points, but I think mine is the more normal one.

>> No.6926035

>>6926033
To perceive the Form of Shitpost.

>> No.6926036
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6926036

>>6926035

>> No.6926067

>>6925375

>OP
>asks a yes or no question

>> No.6926071

>>6925671
This is still the wrong conclusion. Even if you have something to say, you say it entirely in the text. For all intenstive purposes, the outside-persona of the author does not exist. And even if the outside persona hates homosexuals, they can still write interesting ideas about politics or science or art.

>> No.6926074

>>6926071
>For all intenstive purposes
Pardon?

>> No.6926305

Only if he writes anti-male propaganda, like most of the mangina clitsucker novelists today.

>> No.6926463

Nah, getting worked up over an author's personal views is something for lefties and children

>> No.6926466

>>6925375
Of course it does.

>> No.6926469

>>6926071
>For all intenstive purposes
I can't even tell if this is subtlest bait of all time or not.