/lit/ - Literature

>>6908393
>/lit/ poster
>Well-read

>>6908393

His mother was Engels, seeing as he basically took care of him.

>>6908393
Diogenes

>most influential men of the 20th and 21st century

You are setting out goals high OP. None of us could ever reach the amount of influence he has

>>6908393
He wasn't a NEET he was in Education, the second or first E

Well I'd also like people to try applying my political theories, even if it ends in failure.

>>6908393
>>6908398
>Marx
>well read

>>6908481
>lit
>well read
Then Marx was more /lit/ than /lit/

>>6908594
Then how did he come up with such a meme of a philosophy?

>>6908610

by banging your whore mother every day.

>>6908623
Hey dude when high school starts again you'll stop coming to 4chan, ok?

>>6908393
>The applications of his theories have ended in failure

His theories were about how capitalism works and are pretty much spot on. I agree that capitalism has ultimately failed humanity though.

>>6908636

I'm done with school and university, but I still have time to fuck your whore mother and to wreck you on an anime image board. It's ok you can leave whenever you want, nobody will notice, apart from your whore of a mother that is fucked by the entire neighbourhood, the church group she goes to and me.

>>6908652
You realize, neck beard, I would punch your teeth down into your cake hole if you dared to speak to me like that in person? You have huge balls online; however, my guess is your "real life" persona lacks the lustre you try to broadcast on 4chan. The shock when people find out you survive on stolen wi-fi and you live in your mom's basement. How sad.

>>6908414
lol you wish

>>6908670

How about you post you adress and I come and find you beat your skinny ass and fuck your mom all night like the whole neighbourhood does. Oh I guess you are flustered because you know that even someone who doesn't even lift would put you the ground and rape your ass. It's ok kiddo i suggest group therapy for you.

>>6908431
Then again Zizek will probably be remembered for a couple decades after his death.
Just publicly shitpost your own forced memes as hard as you can.

>>6908435
Not in Education Employment or Training

>>6908699

leave this fucking board.

>>6908393
> NEET
> PhD

>>6908393
Well he was a worthless piece of shit for sure.

>>6908699
I'm an engineer. You don't want to annoy me. You want to piss me off. Piss me off? I'm gonna take a swing at you with a heavy metal club. Annoy me? I will systematically find a way to eradicate you. I will build a genocide machine, just to hunt you down and kill you, your family, any luckless bastard who's like you. So, by all means, piss me off

>>6908836

>>6908870
*sniff*

mm one could say that...but whats your point op?

thats like going to /lgbt/ and ask if foucault is a prototype of them just cause he took it up the ass and died of aids.

>>6909218
He's a very vulgar anticommunist just wanted to post it again in spite of the facts that Marx was editor of Rheinische Zeitung, publisher of Neue Rheinische Zeitung, served on the General Council of the International Workingmen's Association, and a journalist for the New York Daily Tribune.

I guess it's a really well composed Powerpoint Slide.

>>6908699
>>6908652
lol is this one guy being ironic?

>>6909179
*pulls shirt*

>>6909269
An anticommunist? Sounds like a better man already.

The only shitposting Marx did that I can think of are his ad hominem attacks on his rivals, which were pretty lowbrow even for the time.

Apart from that, his writing is solid. Das Kapital is thousands of pages long and there isn't a single extraneous word to be found.

Is /lit/ really so uneducated that they don't understand that Marx writing was a revolutionary insight on capitalism and that Marxists have evolved and corrected his theory ever since?

It feels like i'm being on /pol/ when i see threads like this.

>>6909485
All threads on Marx are started by /pol/acks. They use the same images every time.

>>6909218
Yeah, exactly like that.

>>6908652
>mfw I made the original comment and some completely different anon is going at it with you

>>6908393
>never ran a company
Started and operated two newspapers, both eventually shut down by the state.
You couldn't even get the first one right.
>You keep posting this shit image even though you know it's wrong
You're not just pretending to be retarded.

>>6908481
>you
>capable of thinking beyond "me hungry"

>>6909485
For Americans, Marxism means Trotskyism effectively.

>>6909542
No, I'm pretty sure most Americans associate Marxism with Stalinism.

>>6908393

>All applications of his theories have ended in failure

gee i wonder where job laws and labor organization started to be a thing

>>6908670
Here is one of the letters I wrote to her:

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>>6908481
He read more than you could in ten lifetimes.

>>6909568
Stalinism is the only version of political Marxism that can "work".

>>6909738
Josef Tito begs to differ.

>>6909760
>tito
>marxist

>>6909760
Sure, another iteration of extremely statist and authoritarian political Marxism can "work" of course, but it's still statist and authoritarian.

The planks of the Communist Manifesto to which Marx enunciates as a cure for capitalism, are impossible to do without a monopoly of violence, so the only form that political Marxism can possibly take is the authoritarian and statist form.

>>6909786
No, that's just during the socialist transition to communism. Marx described communism as a stateless society. Without private property to secure, there is no need for a state security apparatus.

>>6909803
Sure, but that transition will never arrive.

Hence my determination in saying that political Marxism will always be statist and authoritarian.

DAILY REMINDER THAT NOT BEING A CAPITALIST IS A MENTAL ILLNESS

CAPITALISM IS AN EXTENSION OF HUMAN NATURE

>>6909809
>assumptions

You realize there are stateless societies, correct?

>>6909809

You have a point. But look what happened to Catalonia.

CRUSHED.

Imma side with the Marxists. Have fun with your means and ends fantasyland.

>>6909811
Adaptation is the only immutable quality of human nature.

>>6909811
I've never read a post starting with "daily reminder" that wasn't completely retarded, how come? Just one shitposter using the phrase?

>>6909811

LOL. Human nature as puppet-stringed by capitalists maybe.

I'd bet 1 million dollars you don't know shit about the true diversity of cultural practice (culture is second order nature).

>>6909819
Daily reminder that people will completely dismiss what you have to say when you preface it with "daily reminder".

>>6909819
>>6909818
Take the redpill, libcucks.

Come to /pol/ and my friends will tell you how deranged and brainwashed you are by your Marxist professors

>>6909812
Really? Like where?

>>6909817
Considering the track-record of so called communist or anarchist societies, i'd say with a fair margin of certainty that if Catalonia wasn't crushed by the nationalists, it would've degenerated into a dictatorship anyway.

>>6909811
>modern humans have existed for hundreds of thousands of years
>capitalism has existed for three centuries
>some people are actually retarded enough to think humans are naturally capitalist just because they happened to be born under capitalism

>>6909832

>he's being serious #rn

>>6909843

It's always going to be crushed by someone more organized than you. That's why you need a chain of command. You need to defend that shit.

Reminder that Marx was very politically active right out of college, published in political journals and newspapers, and actively stirred up revolutionary action until he was kicked out of just about every country in Europe.

And that he spent his latter years confined to a dingy apartment because he was debilitatingly ill much of the time, preventing him from writing for months at a time.

>running a company
>political office
>overseeing accounts
>holding a wage-labor job
>relevant

>>6909845
WE ARE ALL GREEDY

>>6909843
The Nuer are an example.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1971.73.5.02a00100/pdf

>>6909874
WE ARE ALL RAPISTS

>>6909874
We're greedy because we live in a culture that teaches us to be.

Altruism is far more common than pure self-interest. Homo Economicus doesn't exist.

>>6909912
>>>/tumblr/

>>6908398
underrated post

>>6909900
It doesn't seem very stateless to me to be honest.

It just seems democratic and egalitarian.

>>6909832
>take the redpill
>cuck
>/pol/
holy fuck lmao

>>6909921
See you don't even realize.
>Muh I can't look past normative behaviour.

>>6908393
nah

>>6909935
Do you expect him to when you just shout to baseless claims with no citations?

How do you know we are greedy because we're in a culture that teaches us?

How do you know altruism is more common than self-interest?

>>6909935
it's normative for you Jews to try to make whiteness obsolete by encouraging race-mixing and celebrating 'diversity' (i.e. white genocide)

>>6909932
The don't have a state. They don't have a government. They don't even have a leader.

Egalitarian communal decision making where no one has power over another is the definition of anarchy.

>>6909950
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100825/full/news.2010.427.html

http://www.pnas.org/content/75/1/385.full.pdf

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/altruism-biological/

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/276/1654/13

For starters.

Want to prove that greed is natural behavior?

>>6908670
>>6908699
>>6908836

Imma fuck both of you right in t'boom while your raggedy whore moms watch. Then I'll fuck them while you watch. Fucking martian niggers.

#getrekt

Also, Marx is my nigger for real.

>>6909956
>Egalitarian communal decision making where no one has power over another is the definition of anarchy.

They have a religious leader or chief that influences and guides the population, just not with direct physical force.

Regardless of you being correct or not, it is completely asinine to think that a tribal mode of society, which people are confined to a very low population within a very small area of land, can in any way be recreated within a 21st century technocratic hyper-capitalistic global economy with 7 billion people.

karl marx was a faggot

>>6909964
So in other words, a culture can override the biological components that make us altruistic?

Then in what sense are we altruistic at all, if culture can teach us to not be?

If anything it's completely neutral.

>>6909974
But the religious leader isn't seen as an absolute authority. Only a guiding force. In fact, a Nuer who attempted to impose his authority on another would face social ostracization.

>Regardless of you being correct or not, it is completely asinine to think that a tribal mode of society, which people are confined to a very low population within a very small area of land, can in any way be recreated within a 21st century technocratic hyper-capitalistic global economy with 7 billion people.
Nice unproven assumption. Nice goalpost moving too. Before you implied that a stateless society was impossible by saying that the state would never wither away in a socialist society. I demonstrated the existence of a stateless society. Now you're saying that 1. it doesn't count and 2. if it does count, it still doesn't count. Why can't a large scale society use similar principles to socially organize itself? I'd think technology would only help them accomplish this.

>>6909987
>a culture can override the biological components that make us altruistic?
To some extent, yes. There are many instances of culture overriding "human nature". Which, by the way, makes the whole "X is natural" argument totally meaningless anyway, so it doesn't matter what our nature is. We're humans. Adaptation is our greatest natural trait.

>in what sense are we altruistic at all, if culture can teach us to not be?
It doesn't completely.

>If anything it's completely neutral.
They don't cancel each other out. You're not mixing an acid and a base together. Sometimes you act altruistically, sometimes you act on self-interest.

>>6910036
>In fact, a Nuer who attempted to impose his authority on another would face social ostracization.

Right. So it isn't stateless. Social order demands authority.

And the physical threat is social ostracization.

This is just a less advanced way of putting people in jail.

>>6909728
>>6909540
>don't talk bad about my precious marx daddy, FUCK YOU BIIIIITTTTCCCCHHHH
kek I love how marxists immediately reveal themselves as underage.

>>6908393
Didn't he work at the Tribune or something?

>>6908412
underrated