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What are some good books on film? Specifically for those trying to learn how to decipher meaning, symbolism, etc.

>> No.6909091

how about a brain?
Seriously, read a dream dictionary.
Symbolism is an abstract concept. You cant be taught it, you learn to feel it.

>> No.6909098

Go back to /tv/, /lit/ is not the proper board to discuss your pleb medium.

>> No.6909108

I started How to Read a film by James Monaco
Pretty good so far and it has a lot of other things about art theory in general
would recommend

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6909155

Repeating some recommendations I gave yesterday or the other day
>Roland Barthes
You can search for it and read The Third Meaning, it's short and a great introduction to film analysis. After that try to get Camera Lucida: Reflections on Photography.
>Michel Chion
Audiovision is THE book to understand and analyze sound in film, he also has a pretty comfy book about scripts.
>Andrei Tarkovsky
Sculpting in Time is a must if you're watching his films and it will help you see the medium in his eyes. It also has some good anecdotes about his work.
>Sergei Einsestein
He has four books, all of them great but the vital ones are Film Form: Essays in Film Theory and Towards a Theory of Montage, the second one will help you understand all those little things montage does that your brain gets even though you don't.
>Dziga Vertov
I can't find the books edited in english, I'm not sure if there are multiple compilations of his articles or anything in particular. His love for film and ideas will give you a crush on the man anyway.
>Stan Barkhage
There's a compilation of his different articles and classes. It's all awesome stuff, he goes into the more abstract power of image.
>Bordwell
I don't really like him but it's sort of the most basic and complete how most elements of film work. It's not a bible but a decent technical introduction.

And in general terms
>Vladimir Propp
You should at least read Morphology of the Folktale if you're interested in narratology.

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>>6909155
Some people would include Bazin too, first time I read him I found it comically outdated and limited, but his later works have some very good insight. If you happen to pass by any Cahiers du Cinema give them a chance, it's a mixed bag of entry level and needlessly obtuse stuff that might or not interest you. General History of Cinema by Jean Freiburg is pretty interesting too.

If you want something more anecdotal you have Hitchcock by Truffaut that shouldn't be seen as more than a series of rants exchanged between a young idealist and a worn out old man who has done it all and the world wouldn't thank him for it. Also How I Made A Hundred Movies In Hollywood And Never Lost A Dime, Roger Corman's autobiography, is very funny and has tons of pretty realistic experiences in sets.

>> No.6909208

>>6909155
Thank you!

>>6909091
Lol

>>6909108
Appreciated

>>6909098
:)

>> No.6909280

>>6909194
Over here, it's looking like Bazin is the only film theorist from that era that got anything right. Or at least the only one that described a cinema relevant to actual experience. His ontology in particular is essential--I believe it's the first essay in the Gray collection.

Truffaut's THE FILMS OF MY LIFE is a great book if you're looking for beautiful, evocative criticism. Rohmer's A TASTE FOR BEAUTY is brilliant, too, but more theoretical.

>> No.6909436

>>6909280
Nah, Bazin started writing at the late 50's, right before the Nouvelle Vague boom, so you should compare him to Godard and Truffau. There were many film theorists before him that were pretty spot on, specially in the CCCP

>> No.6909491

>>6909084
Eisenstein wrote good stuff. He's pretty much the father of modern cinematic technique, so he's a great place to start.

>> No.6909511

>>6909491
already mentioned => >>6909155

>> No.6910248
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6910248

THEY WERE THE SAME PERSON LMAO
that was painfully clear before you shoved this laugh in our faces hackman

>> No.6910259

>>6909084
If you wanna get real deep into it, read Deleuze's writings on cinema. Not entirely great for semiotics, from what I've gathered.

>> No.6910264 [DELETED] 

stick to watching netflix, you fucking unworthy pleb

>> No.6910273

>>6910264
>tfw hulu plus has a decent portion of the criterion collection
feels good man

>> No.6910279

>>6910248
Wow! Your like, so smart! Like honestly, I didn't understand that movie! Like can you explain it?

>> No.6910280

>>6910264
>hey guys I want to learn about X
>stick yo shit pleb!
are you some sort of internet aristocrat or something?

>> No.6910291

>>6910279
THEY WERE THE SAME 'PESONA' LMAO

>> No.6910346

>>6910291
actually no, each one was a persona, a different one, since the term refers to a mask used to pretend an identity in theatre.

>> No.6910350

>>6910346
it was a joke faglord

>> No.6910359

>>6910350
you seemed to not know how the word worked and so i tried to educate you, i'm sorry that you prefer not knowing.

>> No.6910369

>>6910359
:^))))))

>> No.6910412

>>6909084
not gonna lie, i jacked off when that woman talked about her experience with the boys at the beach