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You know this motherfucker knew that the atom was not an "indivisible particle" before this position was at all scientifically mainstream?

You know he more or less predicted the trend of privatization in the 90s, like 100 years before it happened?

Call me a fanboy but Nietzsche was just eerily brilliant. He's like the Warren Buffett of thinking.

>> No.6879976

>>6879959
didnt he cry to a horse?

>> No.6879983

>>6879959
>You know this motherfucker knew that the atom was not an "indivisible particle" before this position was at all scientifically mainstream?
So did the Greeks 2000 years ago.

>> No.6879995

>>6879976
Nietzsche was the original brony.

>> No.6879997
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>>6879959
So what? You know this motherfucker predicted the Big Bang Theory? Doesn't mean I'd follow his line of thinking either.

>> No.6880008

>>6879983
Atomists believed that the atom was indivisible. Atoms were later found to be divisible.

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>>6879983

>So did the Greeks 2000 years ago
>So did the Greeks 2000 years ago
>So did the Greeks 2000 years ago

atomos is the Greek word for indivisible.

>> No.6880246

>>6879997
>comparing poe to neet-chan
nigga pls

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>>6879976

>> No.6881641

>>6879983
read that quote carefully. an atom is very much *the* indivisible particle to the greeks you numb-nuts

>> No.6881644

>>6879959
[CITATION NEEDED]

>> No.6882586

>>6879995
Please stop.

>> No.6883851

>>6880022
>>6880008
>>6881641
>Arguing trivial semantics when the meaning was perfectly clear

And for this thread in general:
>Not knowing that the question of whether there exists an indivisible particle or not is still unsettled
Fuck off, freshman.

>> No.6883894

>>6879959
>You know this motherfucker knew that the atom was not an "indivisible particle" before this position was at all scientifically mainstream?
Some Arab philosopher theorized the same thing some hundreds of years before him (forget his name though).

>> No.6883897

>>6879959
I feel that Westerners live nearly in a Nietzschen paradise, in the sense that secularism is the practical stance of the world's most powerful governments and that we have embraced our ability to shape our existence with legislation and machines. Widespread democracy throws a wrench in the theory, but since the weakest and dumbest choose not to vote and international relations aren't democratic anyway, we (the West) still sort of maintain the ubermensch image of powerful aristocrats seeking our own destiny using our self-created morality.

I don't feel that anyone except maybe Heidegger was as concerned with our roots as with our future.

>> No.6883913

>>6883897
This! One of the few bumps in the road is that people should be cool with what other people do, despite not liking it personally. Only then can they call themselves supermen.

P.S. There is no such thing as submen. There's only animals - men - supermen.

>> No.6883924

>>6879976
when you show a credible source to it actually happening. It was most likely taken from a scene in Crime and Punishment because people kept linking the great man theory to the ubermensch

>> No.6883930

>>6883913
Nietzsche had no problem with stopping others from doing stuff. If you see them as your enemy, go ahead.

>> No.6883931

>>6883897
What are you talking about? The West is filled with Last Men.

>> No.6883942

>>6883894
I'm an idiot. Atomism was a well known theory, but he predicted that the splitting of an atom would cause an incredible explosive force if such a thing could be done.

>> No.6883959

>>6880022
and naturally some disputed it and therefore the greeks did over 2000 years ago

>> No.6883967

>>6883897
but secularism could be even worse than religion to him. slave morality still exists in a number of different forms

>> No.6883970

how do i into Nietzsche?

>> No.6883972

>>6883942
well it doesn't necessarily create an explosive force so I guess he got that wrong

>> No.6883993

>>6883970
Step 1: Forget everything you think you know about Nietzche.

Step 2: Study alot of philosophy. I mean alot, Nietzche is hard to understand and unintuitive. Sometimes he does it on purpose just to fuck with you. Sometimes what he's saying has multiple meanings, purely to fuck with you. So have a good solid base.

Step 3: Start with "On the Genealogy of Morality" or "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" and go from there.

>> No.6884020

>>6883930
>Nietzsche had no problem with stopping others from doing stuff.
Yeah, stopping a man from beating a horse is good.

What I menant was that he said that if someone else has found their own thing, the superman should be happy over it.

>>6883972
Go to bed, Peter Hitchens! You are sober. *Splitting* atoms causes a great release of power.

>> No.6884037

>>6883993

Step 2 should be "learn German". After that move on to steps 2 and 3.

>> No.6884058

>>6883897
>hedonism
>secular Christianity as the political religion
>rulers subjecting themselves to vote and having to argue their cause
>politics concerned mainly with economic growth, jobs, human rights and the occasional environmental disaster
I don't see the connection.

>> No.6884222

>>6883993
Yup. Especially Step 1.
>>6884037
Nah, footnotes get it done.

>> No.6884263

>>6884058
>we are self-aware and self-powerful and choose to do all these things
>Westerners are the aristocratic tyrants of the world regardless of our internal organization

>> No.6884269

>>6879995
well memed

>> No.6884361

>>6883924
>no it din happin!
kek

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<actually reading Nietzsche

>> No.6886321

>>6883851
I'll bite: Who of the ancient Greeks (or otherwise) knew of the divisibility of the atom before Nietzsche?

>> No.6886332

>>6879976
Be honest, did you only watch that stupid fucking "school of life" video that says he "ran out into the street and embraced the horse"

>> No.6887765

>>6886321
It's not that hard to come up with that possibility, since it's just one of two options. Democritus, Plato, and Aristotle all raised the possibility that there might not be atoms, that all matter is infinitely divisible. Not that they stuck with that option, but they were aware of the possibility. Newton held that matter was, mathematically at least, infinitely divisible.

>> No.6887815

the smallest indivisible particle is called parmanu a form of energy is what indians predicted around 3000BC -1000BC way before this guy

>> No.6887825

>>6883897
the god of the west is capital. you're high