/lit/ - Literature

my diary, tbh

my shit writing

>>6875118
Not until I read this post. I mean, christ. One sentence, and it already has the passive voice.

>>6875118
yo-yo opie

>>6875131
There is literally nothing wrong with using the passive voice.

>>6875118
Disturbed: "Guts" by Chuck Palahniuk.

Do not post that evil here, OP.

Blood Meridian, not so much for the violence but the symbolism and terrible implications

Clichéd answer but The Raven honestly spooks the hell out of me. Parts of DADOES really made me feel uncomfortable too.

American Psycho is one of the only works of fiction where I felt genuinely concerned for the mental state of the author (BEE is fine, of course, but you get the idea)

The account of Robert-Francois Damiens' execution in Foucault's Discipline and Punish was the only time I was ever genuinely disturbed by a piece of writing. I couldn't read all of it at once and had to tackle it in sections, it was that horrific. I felt sick for the rest of the evening.

>>6875118
I read " statement of randolph carter" a few seconds ago.
I must admit the ending still spooks me.

Well, it isn't exactly literature but it's probably worth a mention. I watched Kids (1995) and immediately booked myself for an aids test.

>>6875118
Parts of Blake Butler's latest book made me uncomfortable alone in my apartment.
Paul Curran's Left Hand too.
De Sade. Parts of A Sentimental Novel by Robbe-Grillet.
More disturbed than frightened though by all of the above.

>>6875131
>History major detected

Like this anon just said>>6875150
There is nothing wrong in using passive voice in most literary disciplines. If you are writing an academic essay, specifically a historic one, its not encouraged to use passive voice. In other forms of literature, passive voice is encouraged for style and creativity.

Undergrads, you gotta love them, they don't know any better.

Ligotti's "Purity"

>mfw uncooked hotdogs with mayonnaise

>>6875118

One of Stephen King's recent books, Revival.

>>6875131
Hahaha fucking dumbass. Worried about passive voice on 4chan. KEK

House of leaves when I read it was terrifying because it was a sense of "the unknown" in a new metaphysical sense I had never experienced. It's been years since I read it though.

>>6875118
L'Anti-Œdipe, at first

>>6875131
How to spot a dilettante:

>he thinks the passive voice shouldn't be used
>he thinks adverbs shouldn't be used
>he thinks prose should be cut down as bare as possible

>>6875153
>>6875184
Shut uppppppp pussies

>>6875190
Yeah but on re-read after reading int's w/BEE about it all, the book is hilarious.

>>6875379
Yeah ok J. Truant...

And my own cont: 11/22/63 the whole hammer incident.

The Trial, the scene with the man getting whipped. Not graphic at all, just unnerving in how out of place and unexplained it was.

That's the only time I can think of.

>>6875118
Lacan scares me.

>>6875462
The ending to that book is pretty distressing as well.

>>6875462
those apartments really made me feel kind of claustrophobic

V.'s Mondaugen chapter was really eerie.

>>6875214
>tfw all my creative writing professors tried to stop me from using passive voice
>tfw I now question everything I do
>tfw I feel like I lost my own style
>tfw I don't know if I ever had my own style or if my writing is worth pursuing for profit

>>6875190
The bit where he kills the kid is genuinely sickening

Nothing else in the book really got to me, but that fucked me up

>>6875658
your style is born of your continous experience as a writer, nothing takes away from it. It just changes as you change. There is no perfect style to find, it's the only thing you can do after you stop openly mimicking others.

Red Dragon gave me nightmares.

>>6875131

>>6875680
>hibari-kun

>>6875150
But it's literally wrong to use the word "literally" wrong.

Naked Lunch made me queasy

>>6875409
>trying to elongate the mental pronunciatio of a word by repeating the last letter
>not the vowel
meme screamer detected

>>6875118
DFW's stories in Oblivion are relentlessly bleak.

Never a work exactly, but there have been moments where authors, through a mix of intensity, skill, and intellectual prowess have displayed a kind of nihilism (I hesitate to even call it that but I can't think of a better word) that is so piercing and exquisite it is something I consider formative in terms of my knowledge of what literature is and what it can achieve.

Pynchon has done this, and Joyce, and McCarthy, and Eliot and several others. Shakespeare gets a little close to this in Richard III with the downing passage, but generally people of Shakespeare's ilk, Dante or Milton or whohaveyou, are unable to allow for this depth of ironic detachment from the world in the (ironically) metaphysical subject matters and worldviews which don't just contextualize but fundamentally inform their works.

>>6875139
>>6875118


what the fuck is this? where can i find more?

>>6875131
This isn't funny, sorry I know you tried

>>6875872
you really, really don't want to go there.

>>6875131
Literally nothing is wrong with using the passive voice.

>>6875872
enjoy your nightmares

http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=MN2Mm-C568-#.VYL1pEaz7YA

>The Trial
>Hunger by Hamsun

>>6875658
>he thinks he's going to write an amazing work of fiction by listening to his professors

They failed. In fact, they continue to fail, as literature has no retirement age. Don't let their failure also be yours.

>>6875118
Rodya's nightmare in Crime and Punishment

>>6875891

> xtube

oh gosh

>>6875914
>his profs aren't renowned novelists
Poor person detected.

>>6875680
I agree but what I'm worried about is changing negatively as a result of shitty genre humping professors.
>>6875914
this is literally the opposite of what I was saying, they're all laughably bad writers who get their tips from genre writing conventions
>>6875963
poor fag here

>>6875118
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea got me a bit worked up.

american psycho
i felt particularly uneasy when he kills Bethany for some reason. obviously the whole thing is fucked up, though.
tai pei
the parts where it seems like paul is understanding important things, but continues to be a fucking self centered druggie, made me feel uneasy, because it seems like any sense of morality or responsibility was ironic and banal. everything with erin made me feel like, really bad.
infinite jest
the part with michael pelumis' brother and the rape stuff. also the part with the paralyzed girl being raped. that was sickening. plus the horror of existence for the post dmz hal is fucking super scary.

>>6875658
>>6875680
>>6875963
>>6875914
A good creative writing professor is one who's already had a number of successful novels or collections published and can get a short story into a top-tier literary magazine without blinking. Such a professor can give advice without being too rigid because he remembers the process of understanding his own voice.

On the subject of passive voice, it's discouraged because there's a type of person who abuses it so much they'll just accept awkward sentence structures and phrasing to stick with it for no good reason.

>>6875214
I'm a history major and I've never been told not to use passive voice.

>>6875462
This. When K goes back the next day and still sees them was pretty fucked up

>>6875914
I don't think that, but I had to adhere to bullshit to get a grade. Where can I go for well versed opinions? The internet is all shit, everywhere I post my stuff it's the same old shit, and I rarely even do that because of paranoia.

>>6876144
Oh, I definitely understand this. I'm sick of being taught by shit tier sellouts. I actually told my whole class to fuck themselves through a reference, they were too stupid to get it even though google would have shown them the statement "fuck you"

Even if it's really tame for most people's standards, I thought the scene in For Whom the Bell Tolls of the guerrillas ambushing the Fascist town pretty unnerving. Especially when one of the drunkards tries to set one of the fascist's corpse on fire, and the bit where the mob lines up at the door of the building holding the last few fascist sympathizers. Especially with the fact that many of the fascist sympathizers didn't deserve being walked down the gauntlet and beaten or thrown off the ravine.

>>6875908
the 1966 film adaptation of hunger made me feel complete emptiness

>>6875528
same

In the Penal Colony
I couldn't even finish reading it.

I thought the depiction of schizophrenia in The Eden Express by Mark Vonnegut was disturbing. It describes the extreme time dilation and the messed up hallucinations he had, it's all very vivid.

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets scared me when I was a kid

>>6876309
it made me feel like i was in a horror movie, inside a never-ended maze of apartments, a la "The Town Without Streets" by Junji Ito