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was he a Nietzschean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ2LehsA1dk

>> No.6860721

HOLY SHIT HE JUST GOT

#HITCHSLAPPED

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER LINKS OF SMOOTH SEXY CURVY HITCHENS DEMOLISHING STUPID FUNDIES WITH HIS epicLOGIC BOMBS?

>> No.6860737

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTXN5nOstRs

>> No.6860758

>>6860721
assmad christ cuck detected

>> No.6860779
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>>6860737
shit, that guy's videos are gold

>> No.6860781

>>6860721
yea why dont you try developing an attention span greater than that of a 5 year old child and comment on the content rather than the title of the video

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>>6860781
>implying there's any content

>> No.6860856

>>6860758
I WAS AGREEING WITH OUR LOGIC SUPREME LEADER GLORIOUS HITCHENS

#GETHITCHSLAPPEDWIH MY LOGIC COCK

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FUCK CHRISTFAGS
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FUCM MY PARENTS TOO, I'M NEVER GOING TO SUNDAY SCHOOL AGAIN!!!!!!1

>> No.6860857

>>6860710
>humanity trying to save it's own wicked heart
>towerofbabel.jpeg
>tfw the person of christ is our only hope

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>>6860758
>anon makes fun of atheists
>oh he must be a christfag lololol!!!111

>> No.6860881

>>6860710
>hey yer fancy limey, if god don't exist, why dont yew stay at home?

>> No.6860885

>>6860881
>tfw that question might be really stupid but god still exists

>> No.6860888

>>6860868
You realize, neck beard, I would punch your teeth down into your cake hole if you dared to speak to me like that in person? You have huge balls online; however, my guess is your "real life" persona lacks the lustre you try to broadcast on 4chan. The shock when people find out you survive on stolen wi-fi and you live in your mom's basement. How sad.

>> No.6860897

What does it even mean to be a Nietzschean?

I do think Hitch was a bit bound by slave morality. So are all the New Atheists, except maybe for Dennett. They didn't believe in God, but they believe in a nearly deified set of scientific axioms and moral platitudes.

>> No.6860900

dfw tried to tell us
this is water

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>>6860888
>mfw holy trips got wasted on shitty copypasta

>> No.6860918

>>6860779
>>6860848
>>6860868
>>6860911
these pics are gold m8

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>>6860918
eh, it's the only i could salvage

>> No.6860931

I was waiting for this to catch on OP. You did me proud.

>> No.6860949

>>6860868
>>6860911
>>6860925
best believe I'm saving these lad

>>6860781
>content
topkek lad

>> No.6860957

>>6860710
Maybe the early post-schopenhauerian 'science rocks, so does the enlightenment, hero worship is bullshit for schopenhauerian fags and i'm dedicating my book to voltaire positively positivist' nietzsche.

>> No.6860965

>>6860897
Nietzschean just means 'heavily influenced by Nietzsche' generally, whichever way that may be.

>> No.6860989

>>6860949
>>6860848
hes clearly using nietzsches ideas here which is interesting because i had him pinned as someone who would have hated Nietzsche. i think he even made a video talking about how much he hated Nietzsche

>> No.6861018

>>6860710
Have you read that passage from God is Not Great where he quotes Nietzsche's "God is Dead" and criticises it saying "How could Nietzsche have known God was dead!?". He couldn't even grasp basic metaphor.

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reminder

>> No.6861027

>>6861018
spot on, bud
pras

>> No.6861034

>>6861020
>faust
>protestant or representative of protestantism
how embarassing (replace with paradise lost already)

>> No.6861036

>>6861020

Atheism as a popular movement has been around for only a little while now while those religions were hundreds if not thousands of years old by the time those works were written. I guarantee you that by 3015, there will have been written masterpiece of literature devoid of religious ideology.

>> No.6861044

>>6860965
But then who ISN'T Nietzschean? Our modern age is Nietzsche's age, no matter how much everyone (including Nietzsche himself) would hate to admit it.

>> No.6861057

>>6861036
atheism doesnt inspire, if it is devoid of religion then it will stink of other type of ideology

>> No.6861068

>>6860779
>exploding at bullshit

That phrasing makes me laugh.

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>>6861057
>This is what theists believe

>> No.6861118

>>6861113

Exactly. A pity, really.

>> No.6861132

>>6861113
it is true, atheism cant stand on itself, it needs ideology as a crutch

also
>butterfly
>having an opinion on anything

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>>6861118
It does inspire those that get inspirations. Being inspired seems to be some kind of trait.

>>6861132
This is why you latch onto the word "euphoria" so hard. You can't stand that atheists aren't inherently suicidal, sadistic or psychotic. They're well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people.
>Having an opinion
Look that word up, please.

Seriously. 0/10

>> No.6861229

>>6860710
>I detest religion because theocracy kills people
>atheist regimes responsible for more death than any theocracy

Question asker was certainly not BTFO

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>>6861167
>well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people.

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>>6861044
>But then who ISN'T Nietzschean?

>> No.6861255

>>6861229
the questioner was BTFO by himself the moment he opened his dumb mouth. he might as well say to greenpeace 'if you don't like whale huntin why dont ye stay at home?

>> No.6861266

>>6860710

No, New Atheism is primarily about resentment against religious fundamentalists. Nietzsche would have considered it toxic and pleb tier.

>> No.6861273

>>6861167
>You can't stand that atheists aren't inherently suicidal, sadistic or psychotic. They're well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people.
oh please, that the majority of atheists are too ignorant to see the logical conclusion of their atheism doesnt speak well for them.

Seriously. butterfly/10

>> No.6861282

>>6861255
>he might as well say to greenpeace 'if you don't like whale huntin why dont ye stay at home?

That's an incorrect analogy.

Greenpeace is not to whale hunting as Athiesm is to Theism.

What the asker was going at was more "You don't believe in salvation so why should you care if others do?"

Greenpeace is morally opposed to whale hunting.

Atheism due to it's inherently lack of objective morals and "point" (read salvation) should have no objection to Theism.

>> No.6861300

>>6861036
>Atheism as a popular movement
fucking cringe, this is why I call myself agnostic tbh
>. They're well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people.
Like those who take out their unhealthy anger by pretending to be another user on an anonymous american anime image board? sounds legit

>> No.6861302

>>6861282
But he wasn't talking about atheism, the was talking about Hitchens, the person. Obviously Hitchens has some problem with religion and its consequences, that's why he rails against it.

>> No.6861304

>>6861300
meant for this cuckold>>6861167

>> No.6861307

>>6861036
>he thinks we will still write books in 3015

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>>6861273
>Oh they too ignorant. They cants be happy. Nuff said.

Seriously rolling in laughter.

>butterfly/10
Nice rating

>> No.6861311

>>6861282
see this is why atheism is so illogical.

they can't recognize it is just as much of an assertion to say that there is no god as to say there is god. there is inconclusive evidence for either, but the point of religion is the leap of faith, faith is the foundation for an individuals relationship with God.

New Atheism is based on nothing and consists mostly of absurd attempts to refute theology, but insist on fundamentally misunderstanding it.

>> No.6861318

>>6861308
Are you to substantiate your trip from what I've been wallowing inside as acid inchworm?

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>>6861308
>i-im laffin guyz! srsly!
typical of butterfly

>> No.6861325

>>6861273
>They're well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people

Is that why atheistic regimes are responsible for most of the mas exterminations of the 20th century

Stalinist USSR, Maoist China, and the Khmer Rouge come to mind

>> No.6861332

sorry>>6861273

>>6861325
was meant for

>>6861167

>> No.6861349

>>6861311
For the millionth time "new atheism" is garbage term. There are the odd 100% atheists who make this false leap of non-faith, but most reasonable people are categorized as agnostic-atheist. They acknowledge the "inconclusive evidence". They might be any one or all of a creator, afterlife or immortal spirit, but the complete lack of evidence for any of it thus far leads reasonable people to the understanding that all faiths are man made and should be dropped.
>faith is the foundation for an individuals relationship with God.
But you have *nothing* to base this claim on. Nothing but ancient traditions. There appears to be no relationship with a god even if there were one. Give it up.

>> No.6861351

>>6861325
This bait is so 2001.

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>>6861325
>hating based Mao, Stalin, and Pol Pot

>> No.6861359

>>6861325
>famines are exterminations
>atheism caused these famines

Christianity confirmed for Irish genocide.

>> No.6861370

>>6861349
tldr lad, try to calm down

>> No.6861373

>>6861349
>In speaking of the fear of religion, I don’t mean to refer to the entirely reasonable hostility toward certain established religions and religious institutions, in virtue of their objectionable moral doctrines, social policies, and political influence. Nor am I referring to the association of many religious beliefs with superstition and the acceptance of evident empirical falsehoods. I am talking about something much deeper—namely, the fear of religion itself. I speak from experience, being strongly subject to this fear myself: I want atheism to be true and am made uneasy by the fact that some of the most intelligent and well-informed people I know are religious believers. It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief. It’s that I hope there is no God! I don’t want there to be a God; I don’t want the universe to be like that. ---Thomas Nagel

>> No.6861374

>>6861349
>But you have *nothing* to base this claim on
That would be a problem if it weren't already based on faith.

I'm a christian and I like you butterfly, I'm sorry for the way some people in this thread are treating you, but I think you make a logical leap when you say God is man made.

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>>6861351
Look at the jpeg artifacts on it!

>>6861300
>fucking cringe, this is why I call myself agnostic tbh
Are you agnostic-atheist, agnostic-theist or lazy 50/50 cant-no-nuthin agnostic?

>They're well adjusted, peace-loving, inspiring people.
Didn't say that now did I?

>>6861374
>I think you make a logical leap when you say God is man made.
HA.

>> No.6861393

>>6861359
>5 year plan
>famine

>great purge
>famine

>holomodor
I'll give you that one, although it was an engineered famine

>Zhen Fan
>famine

>Anti-Rightist Movement
>famine

>Khmer Rouge
There was an engineered famine included but still
>famine

>> No.6861412

>>6861020
Paradise Lost for Prostestants and thus spoke Zarathustra for atheism.

>> No.6861419

>>6861325
Theistic regimes are responsible for most of the mas exterminations of all the other centuries though.

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>>6861351
Look at the jpeg artifacts on it!

>>6861300
>fucking cringe, this is why I call myself agnostic tbh
Are you agnostic-atheist, agnostic-theist or lazy 50/50 cant-no-nuthin agnostic?

>>6861374
>I think you make a logical leap when you say God is man made.
HA. No friend. "Leap of faith" is the logical fallacy. It held me up for quite a few years.

>>6861373
I don't either, and it's not. It can't be. Under some circumstance there might be a creator/caretaker alien species, a retrievable brain-spirt and subsequent extended afterlife. But immortality? A being greater than the vastness of the universe/multiverse? Nope. Fictional. All there is to it.

>> No.6861433

>>6861412
>thus spoke Zarathustra for atheism.
kek, I'm not sure Nietzsche himself would even approve of that. He was very nuanced. The atheist one would be something like Candide imo, although Voltaire did call himself a Deist.
also
>implying this work would be remembered were Nietzsche not considered one of the philosophical heavyweights

>> No.6861440

>>6861427
>I don't either, and it's not. It can't be.
the delusion is strong with you, butterfly

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>>6861440
>Physics don't exist, Butters. You just have to BELIEEEEEVE

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>>6861452
>physics
>having anything to do with theism
what about it, butterbutt?

>> No.6861476

>>6861433
Nah man, it's gotta be Zarathustra the godless. It even has the holy book feel. Candide isn't about no god existing. Zarathustra is most atheist atheist.

>> No.6861508

>>6861471
You can't have this jar of god put up on a shelf that says "don't touch"

You poison the word "faith" with this nonsense.

>> No.6861603

I remember seeing him once debating Iraq, it was with that gay conservative dude something Sullivan, listen to it because there is a direct question about Nietzsche from a caller and you can just see how both of them have no understanding of him

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hitchens was more nietzschean than nietzsche

>> No.6861786

>>6861508
>implying there's a jar of god sitting next to other jars
if anything, God is the one who holds the jars up and together, butter

>> No.6861951

>>6861786
Spinozist, please. The point is there's an empty jar and no god. Having faith that there's a ghost in this jar, holding up the shelf, or your own ghost in your bones is a human invention. *If* there is a god it has never communicated its existence. *If* it did in the form of Jesus, it fucked up royally.

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>>6860710

>American audience
>They're all either fat or dressed in terrible, badly fitting, casual sports-wear